This dumbass didn't stop anything.

He was carrying an unregistered firearm and brandished it in attempt to intervene in a situation that wasn't an immediate threat to him or his loved ones.

He deserved to get arrested.

Interesting that the charge is an unregistered firearm. HPD is being lenient.

Since I doubt he was hunting at Ewa Beach, unless the argument was happening at a range, his place of business, a gun shop, gun show or a police station having that pistol at all is a felony, is it not?

Interesting that the charge is an unregistered firearm. HPD is being lenient.

Since I doubt he was hunting at Ewa Beach, unless the argument was happening at a range, his place of business, a gun shop, gun show or a police station having that pistol at all is a felony, is it not?

It doesn't matter if he was at a range or home.

If its an unregistered firearm, he's screwed.

From what I remember in the mandatory gun handgun safety class by law he had no right to brandish a firearm. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Even if the other 2 started beefing and 1 of them was beating the other do death with the bat, unless it was on the gun owners property he has no right pull out his gun.


All this IF it was properly registered and what not.


Not trying to argue any points here, just trying to see if I learned correctly.

Just poked through HRS 134 yet again. If I'm reading it correctly, having an unregistered firearm is a misdemeanor.

If they  threw the book at him for having a firearm (loaded or unloaded) where he shouldn't it would be a felony.

I agree it was a foolish thing to do and he's screwed... I'm just (pleasantly) surprised that HPD went with the lesser charge. Makes me wonder if there are other details we don't have like if the gun owner was a resident and got the pistol from his house.

numbertwo: If I understand the law correctly, he shouldn't have even had a pistol to brandish. Without one of the never issued CCW permits having a pistol just about anywhere is illegal.

Woah....an unregistered firearm is a little more severe then I thought....bs laws

....so lets say a old shotgun..like 1930's..was brought in by someone who never registered it within the three days and left it somewhere. Said person passed away some years ago and I want to use said shotgun...what are my options?

Go to HPD and say this was never registered or something?

From what I remember in the mandatory gun handgun safety class by law he had no right to brandish a firearm. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Even if the other 2 started beefing and 1 of them was beating the other do death with the bat, unless it was on the gun owners property he has no right pull out his gun.


All this IF it was properly registered and what not.


Not trying to argue any points here, just trying to see if I learned correctly.

I disagree the guy felt that there was potential for maiming and/or death (baseball bat).  Trouble is transportation and being unregistered.

Maybe he got the unregistered charge instead of place to keep because its unregistered.
Maybe if it was a registered gun he would be charged with place to keep instead

See, this is why people really gotta mind their own business.  If people want to fight, let them!!!

And just having a gun is a felony.  its not right but it's our current stupid law.

Man I really think if this was registered this would have been dropped and probably not even made the paper.

See, this is why people really gotta mind their own business.  If people want to fight, let them!!!

And just having a gun is a felony.  its not right but it's our current stupid law.

If my life and/or the lives of my immediate family are not in immediate danger, I honestly don't care if two dumbasses beat the living shit out of each other.

If my family is in danger of being killed, I will do whatever is necessary to ensure their safety.

Wow, the comments so far.   Since no facts of the case has yet to surface, why all the negative comments and the automatic assumption the guy is a dumbass and a criminal?  What if that was his cousin or friend or neighbor about to get bashed with a bat?   Was he by his house?   What if he couldn't get it registered because he was turned away at 3:30?  What is wrong with a person trying to stop a beating from going down, possibly a murder? Yes, I realize it is against the law to brandish, but does that make it right?

Just because the guy has a gun in the public automatically makes him a criminal?  Maybe all the propaganda that this state has been feeding us all these years has really worked....  Maybe we are not ready for CCW?

Maybe we need to start changing the way we think about these things?

If my life and/or the lives of my immediate family are not in immediate danger, I honestly don't care if two dumbasses beat the living shit out of each other.

If my family is in danger of being killed, I will do whatever is necessary to ensure their safety.

I feel about my car the way you feel about your family.

If my life and/or the lives of my immediate family are not in immediate danger, I honestly don't care if two dumbasses beat the living shit out of each other.

If my family is in danger of being killed, I will do whatever is necessary to ensure their safety.

+1

If my life and/or the lives of my immediate family are not in immediate danger, I honestly don't care if two dumbasses beat the living shit out of each other.

If my family is in danger of being killed, I will do whatever is necessary to ensure their safety.

I totally agree with you.  It said in the story that this guy with the gun had nothing at all to do with the 2 other guys.  Trying to be a hero in real life gets you a felony!  like i said before, mind your own business! 

more people should be mad that this registration bullshit is even a requirement. I say he should take this to court and claim he doesn't need to register his gun using FOPA as his reasoning.

I totally agree with you.  It said in the story that this guy with the gun had nothing at all to do with the 2 other guys.  Trying to be a hero in real life gets you a felony!  like i said before, mind your own business! 

This is what I mean.  Why is helping another person out automatically make you a criminal, even in the eyes of those here on 2Ahawaii?

I may be wrong and these may have been just a bunch of punks futting around, but I would like to know what was the goings on before I make a snap judgement.  Just saying.

Just because the guy has a gun in the public automatically makes him a criminal?  Maybe all the propaganda that this state has been feeding us all these years has really worked....  Maybe we are not ready for CCW?

you forget that in hawaii, having a gun in public DOES automatically makes him a criminal.  A felony charge=never being able to own a gun every again (legally) as well as a whole other bunch of crap like prison (we aint talking no sissy jail here people, prison is big time!) as well as lawyer fees, and a lot of money to pay for bail and everything else.  Now it may be different if we did have CCW where people are educated on when and where you can pull out a gun but the fact is that we don't!  For all we know this guy could pull out his gun the next time someone cuts him off in traffic and start to unload on him cuz he thinks he is justified.  Facts are that he broke the law, he had nothing to do with the argument, and the other guy could have ran away from the guy with the bat which means it wasn't automatically a homicide situation, and we don't have CCW here. 

It does make the rest of us legal gun owners look bad and its a strike against legal CCW here.  How does that help our cause?

more people should be mad that this registration bullshit is even a requirement. I say he should take this to court and claim he doesn't need to register his gun using FOPA as his reasoning.

Agree on this one.    I think when these types of situations occur, we need to take a step back, find out the facts, and support these guys. If the situation is justified.  Maybe, then, we can get some of these asinine laws changed for the better.