Quote from: Alex Europa on October 24, 2011, 01:04:41 PM

This thread has been extremely helpful as I'm reapplying for my carry permit and I will be including, as enclosures to the application, printouts of every violent encounter that occurred in the last year, outside of the home, on Oahu (read: all incidents that COULD HAVE happened to me and left me without a means to defend myself). I have 47 enclosures thus far, so that should be fun. I figure if they're going to say no, I might as well make them feel dumb for saying "...the police department should be contacted immediately so that proper action may be initiated."

- Alex

I haven't applied before, but I did get the command letter certifying that I meet the training requirements.  Then I sort of ran out of steam and was just kind of kicking around, waiting for the results of the lawsuit.     But I suppose it's kind of my duty to be a PITA to the firearms division, so I'll be applying.  I'd like to attach a copy of that enclosure, as well, if you don't mind sharing.

Quote from: Cougar8045 on October 24, 2011, 04:48:36 PM

Quote from: Alex Europa on October 24, 2011, 01:04:41 PM

This thread has been extremely helpful as I'm reapplying for my carry permit and I will be including, as enclosures to the application, printouts of every violent encounter that occurred in the last year, outside of the home, on Oahu (read: all incidents that COULD HAVE happened to me and left me without a means to defend myself). I have 47 enclosures thus far, so that should be fun. I figure if they're going to say no, I might as well make them feel dumb for saying "...the police department should be contacted immediately so that proper action may be initiated."

- Alex

I haven't applied before, but I did get the command letter certifying that I meet the training requirements.  Then I sort of ran out of steam and was just kind of kicking around, waiting for the results of the lawsuit.     But I suppose it's kind of my duty to be a PITA to the firearms division, so I'll be applying.  I'd like to attach a copy of that enclosure, as well, if you don't mind sharing.

I'm sure you're right.  If you can get it scanned, cool, if not, that's ok, too.  They're not going to read it anyway  , I just figured if you had an electronic copy I could throw that in my application, as well.

Sure, I'll try to scan it into PDF format tomorrow. If it's too big of a file, then we'll find a way to meet up so that I can give you copies. I honestly don't think it really matters whether or not you have the enclosure, they're still going to say no, but I suppose it can't hurt.

- Alex

Man arrested in fatel Waikiki shooting

http://www.staradvertiser.com/news/breaking/133297708.html

This why I do not go downtown. Too many people out to rob, harass, etc.  I swear I read a message weekly detailing some mitliary guy that god beat up and robbed by a group down in that area.

Apparently the shootee had been drinking and was harassing people.  4 on 1 = disparity of force in my book.  Nobody knows the details,








http://www.khon2.com/news/local/story/Family-of-shooting-victim-wants-answers/mIMukl1JIkCr7sbgq0y17w.cspx

Read the comments..these people make it out like the agent was out looking for a an encounter....