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Another crime he allegedly committed:  Asking $1595 for a DPMS Sportical.

 According to the article, he was handing out the flier listing the guns and asking prices in March. Sure, that was in the middle of the big scare, but jeez. MSRP for a Sportical is $719.

Maybe that's why the gun shop turned hm in ... he was cutting in on their (over priced) market!!
When only cops have guns, it's called a "police state".

GZire

That broad brush you use to paint so many groups of people post after post must get awfully heavy!

I was in the AF for 8 1/2 years, and worked as a DoD contractor for 18 more.  I've worked with military, civilian gov't employees, and contractors.  I've supported AF, Navy, Coast Guard, and Joint organizations, including LE (FBI, NCIS, etc.).

As with any organization, there are some slackers.  But for the most part, I've never seen the types of people you describe.  The RDO schedules for Navy is a unique situation.  Those folks work 12 hour shifts 7 days a week when deployed.  Shore duty is supposed to be lighter, so they can catch up with family, education, and unwind a little before returning to sea duty.

Maybe the places you worked had poor management and lacked leadership.  That's usually where the problem starts.  As for my experience, I am proud of the achievements of the units I supported, and many of them were the result of long, sometimes around the clock, efforts.  I've worked countless nights, weekends, and holidays, all without compensation (salaried employee). 

State government might be more in line with your description, as the employees are probably raised with the laid back, "hang loose" Hawaii attitude.  I do see that at my current job.  But the military is comprised of more than locals.  The motivation and self-determination of each individual can't be smeared by your broad brush description. 

Stereotyping is not just bad.  It's also wrong.

Bro I am telling you, you need to see how C&C of Honolulu and State workers are.  Try and get a building permit then tell me what you think.

The RDO schedules the Navy works is not unique.  The FEAD works it, my friend who is not FEAD works it, others work it.  They do not, I repeat do not, work 12 hour shifts 7 days a week because these people do not get deployed.  Tell me why I am told someone needs 14 days to schedule a meeting to discuss issues on the critical path of a project.  Tell me why workers who want to come onto my jobsite all of a sudden don't when I tell them they have to sign in (btw I used to commonly see Shipyard guys camping out on the end of the piers I was on.....two guys all the way at the end of the pier in a golf cart, just sitting in it for a couple of hours.........or my co-worker's son who tells his dad his supervisor telling him "I don't care if you finish early, don't come back to the shop before ______)?

The places I worked have poor leadership..........you betcha, but in my experience that is common in the County, State and Fed, or at least in those places where there is little accountability.  My statements are based on my personal experiences and those of my co-workers & friends.  Heck my good friend told me how his mom's department in PWC used to promote the screw ups because they couldn't fire them.

Now the good...........I once had a visit from a Chief.  He asks me if he can have some of our 14" timber.  I said sure, how much and just come down and grab it.  Well the lengths were longer than what he needed so I tell him I'll lend him a saw.  He says no he's got a couple of f-ups he's going to send by.  Yup had his boys cutting that timber with a handsaw for a couple of hours.  After that he said let them have the chainsaw.  Also had a really good experience with some diving salvage guys, their Chief was on it. 


The summary...........I will say it again, IMHO it isn't about political affiliation it's about accountability in your work and that is not what government is about (maybe you, but you are a tiny tiny portion of the workforce when you fold in the people working for the Fed/State/County).  I will also say that if you dislike steretyping then perhaps you ought to figure at least one person in the entire Obama Admin must be doing something OK?  Otherwise characterizing the entire admin is not just bad, it's wrong.

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The summary...........I will say it again, IMHO it isn't about political affiliation it's about accountability in your work and that is not what government is about (maybe you, but you are a tiny tiny portion of the workforce when you fold in the people working for the Fed/State/County).  I will also say that if you dislike steretyping then perhaps you ought to figure at least one person in the entire Obama Admin must be doing something OK?  Otherwise characterizing the entire admin is not just bad, it's wrong.

You haven't been watching the news lately!  It's a leadership problem in DC.  Our President has used 4 years to blame every problem on GW Bush.  That attitude and climate breeds lack of accountability.  Look at the failure of the USAG, Holder.  The Sec of State, Clinton.  The failures at the top and ducking the responsibilities are why I doubt anyone in the admin is interested in doing a great job.  Why should they?

When I speak of the administration, I speak of the leadership (and I use the term loosely).  The support staff are NOT the administration.  The decision makers are.  The administration is not a person or group.  It is the collection of actions, policies, and orders issued by the administration leadership.  Just as you and I are not the US Government, the support staff are not the administration.
When only cops have guns, it's called a "police state".

Kingkeoni

Eh, he's Canadian.

Who cares  :sleeping:
Your number one Option for Personal Security is a lifelong commitment to avoidance, deterrence, and de-escalation.

Someday someone may kill you with your own gun, but they should have to beat you to death with it because it is empty.

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Eh, he's Canadian.

Who cares  :sleeping:

He's an illegal alien/immigrant.  I know OBAMA cares ... that's another potential Democrat!
When only cops have guns, it's called a "police state".

Kingkeoni

He's an illegal alien/immigrant.  I know OBAMA cares ... that's another potential Democrat!

Eh, he's Kenyan.

Who cares.
Your number one Option for Personal Security is a lifelong commitment to avoidance, deterrence, and de-escalation.

Someday someone may kill you with your own gun, but they should have to beat you to death with it because it is empty.

GZire

You haven't been watching the news lately!  It's a leadership problem in DC.  Our President has used 4 years to blame every problem on GW Bush.  That attitude and climate breeds lack of accountability.  Look at the failure of the USAG, Holder.  The Sec of State, Clinton.  The failures at the top and ducking the responsibilities are why I doubt anyone in the admin is interested in doing a great job.  Why should they?

When I speak of the administration, I speak of the leadership (and I use the term loosely).  The support staff are NOT the administration.  The decision makers are.  The administration is not a person or group.  It is the collection of actions, policies, and orders issued by the administration leadership.  Just as you and I are not the US Government, the support staff are not the administration.


Naw I don't think it's a new failure of leadership.  I'm not so sure it's a lack of leadership with Obama or it's a lack of accountability.  Obama is a smart guy although inexperienced in running things, but I have a feeling he knows exactly what's going on at the DOJ, foreign affairs, etc. it's just that he doesn't hold people accountable (which yes I guess is a lack of leadership)..............but that is really status quo in politics.  It is the same in Illinois with Rod B., with the guys in NY, Mayor B in DC doing coke and getting re-elected.  IMHO it's just politics as usual.

What frightens me is the blind loyalty to one person.

FYI I wouldn't consider myself a Republican or Democrat, I think my views sit in the middle.  What I believe in is less Govt intrusion which puts me in a middle line between Rep/Dem, but away from Govt. So technically I'm a Libertarian, so it explains my beliefs/answers more.

You might want to take a quiz like this to see how where you would fall:

http://www.politicalcompass.org/

http://www.politicalcompass.org/test

GZire

Eh, he's Kenyan.

Who cares.


We need good long distance runners man.  We've never been strong there in those events.

macsak

once i told my brother i think i'm a libertarian
he says why
i said that i believe that the supreme law of the land is the constitution, that government should secure our borders and provide public education through high school and not much else

he says, "are you willing to waste your vote?"
meaning vote for a libertarian presidential candidate
i said no
he said, "then you're not a libertarian"


Naw I don't think it's a new failure of leadership.  I'm not so sure it's a lack of leadership with Obama or it's a lack of accountability.  Obama is a smart guy although inexperienced in running things, but I have a feeling he knows exactly what's going on at the DOJ, foreign affairs, etc. it's just that he doesn't hold people accountable (which yes I guess is a lack of leadership)..............but that is really status quo in politics.  It is the same in Illinois with Rod B., with the guys in NY, Mayor B in DC doing coke and getting re-elected.  IMHO it's just politics as usual.

What frightens me is the blind loyalty to one person.

FYI I wouldn't consider myself a Republican or Democrat, I think my views sit in the middle.  What I believe in is less Govt intrusion which puts me in a middle line between Rep/Dem, but away from Govt. So technically I'm a Libertarian, so it explains my beliefs/answers more.

You might want to take a quiz like this to see how where you would fall:

http://www.politicalcompass.org/

http://www.politicalcompass.org/test

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Paying over MSRP for a crappy rifle... shame on the investigator!
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