Hey everyone I've been doing alot of research into purchasing an AR-15.  I looked into then and have done all the research and have found nothing wrong with them.  I hear nothing but good things about them.  I even had a buddy from a Special Forces Group use them and say that they are fantastic.  In contrast I heard from one person, who is a reputable and respectable person, tell me that there have been many failures to the product and they're all over the place online.  I have tried time and time again to find these reports on the PWS but I haven't found any.  Does anyone have any personal experience with these weapons?  Can someone point me in the right direction when it comes to unbiased product reviews of the PWS?  This would be greatly appreciated.  Thank you!

 


 

Well I have purchased my rifle and I did end up getting the PWS Diablo M114.  I absolutely love it.  I thought I was firing a DI gun. 

That DIABLO is wicked! Nice buy REVN556! (need to see some pics in the pic thread now) 

 

I got one as well , i think its a great deal for what you get.   I was surprised how low the recoil was since i heard people saying gas piston will make it kick harder, but i guess the long stroke gas piston solves that issue also the bolt carrier tilt.  I might want a spare once i shoot the crap out my current one.

 

I think the engineering and design on the diablos is awesome.  Only issue was op rod failures.  I had heard that they would start being cryogenic hardened which would reduce the chance of a failure.  Our concern is that through personal experience I saw an op rod break and pierce the top rail if the receiver headed straight for the shooters face.  It stopped short embedded in the aimpoint T1.  Until I am convinced this has been a rectified issue I'm wary.  That being said the failures are isolated incidents and it's just a personal choice to make sure that's fixed before carrying the rifle at OGC.

I think the engineering and design on the diablos is awesome.  Only issue was op rod failures.  I had heard that they would start being cryogenic hardened which would reduce the chance of a failure.  Our concern is that through personal experience I saw an op rod break and pierce the top rail if the receiver headed straight for the shooters face.  It stopped short embedded in the aimpoint T1.  Until I am convinced this has been a rectified issue I'm wary.  That being said the failures are isolated incidents and it's just a personal choice to make sure that's fixed before carrying the rifle at OGC.

I thought Gunsource was the exclusive distributor for pws on this island?

we carry their comps direct.  As far as im aware, PWS is open vendor based on buy in.  it could have changed without me knowing it, however.

Just a side note.  Spoke with PWS about Master Distribution and Gun Source is the master distributor for Hawaii.  Even though we were a dealer first he ponied up to the distributor level buy in so they are the only ones that get distributor pricing.

That being said they are charging $50 over MSRP and the rifles are $100 under MSRP on gunbroker.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=228410655

Just wondering what peoples thoughts are on the PWS MK1 as compared to the ADCOR BEAR?

Just wondering what peoples thoughts are on the PWS MK1 as compared to the ADCOR BEAR?

I havent heard much about the bear.  I rather have a PWS our LWRC.

Just a side note.  Spoke with PWS about Master Distribution and Gun Source is the master distributor for Hawaii.  Even though we were a dealer first he ponied up to the distributor level buy in so they are the only ones that get distributor pricing.

That being said they are charging $50 over MSRP and the rifles are $100 under MSRP on gunbroker.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=228410655

so after the $70 shipping to Hawaii and $100 FFL transfer, GunSource is the cheapest place to buy them.
Thanks for the info. Good looking out.

Just a side note.  Spoke with PWS about Master Distribution and Gun Source is the master distributor for Hawaii.  Even though we were a dealer first he ponied up to the distributor level buy in so they are the only ones that get distributor pricing.

That being said they are charging $50 over MSRP and the rifles are $100 under MSRP on gunbroker.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=228410655

 

so after the $70 shipping to Hawaii and $100 FFL transfer,

Who's stroking you guys with an $100 FFL transfer?

OGC's FFL transfer is $40.

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so after the $70 shipping to Hawaii and $100 FFL transfer,

Who's stroking you guys with an $100 FFL transfer?

OGC's FFL transfer is $40.

Even if the transfer fee were 30 dollars like it is at "Ready on the Right" (Al Mungeon's place) it's still less expensive to buy locally than from gun broker for this particular firearm.

Even if the transfer fee were 30 dollars like it is at "Ready on the Right" (Al Mungeon's place) it's still less expensive to buy locally than from gun broker for this particular firearm.

Let's see:

Purchase locally $1500 + $70.68 tax = $1570.68

GB $1400 + $70 shipping + $30 transfer = $1500.00

I think you still might be able to knock some $ off the shipping costs and save even more.

Why don't we buy all our guns accessories and ammo from the mainland so the local gun dealers go out of business.

That's not smart

Why don't we buy all our guns accessories and ammo from the mainland so the local gun dealers go out of business.

That's not smart

I agree, but in this case it would make more sense to bring the rifle in as the LGS is selling for over MSRP.  I believe in supporting the LGS (local gun shop) but not if you're getting reamed.  I purchase most of my stuff locally but if I find a good deal or something rare I'll bring it in and do a transfer.   

At days end, it's your $$ so feel free to spend it as you wish.