Ahhh. And there is the inexperience or just plain bad habit.

So you're going to pull your gun and be at the "high" ready to anticipate deadly force? In the real world that gun stays in its holster until you are already faced with deadly force and have already made the decision that deadly force is needed.

Are you even familiar with the use of force continuum and the de-escalation there of.

What if the situation de-escalates? Now you have to try and holster your gun while addressing the suspect. What if he is unarmed and now tries to tackle you? Do you use deadly force? I hope not. (Prison) I would love to be a fly on the wall when you explain to 12 jurors that you shot him because he tried to tackle you.

Unless your a cop, Putting yourself in a deadly situation is not justification for the use of deadly force.

Better to exit the area and keep everyone safe.

I like f'ing white people, but now that I'm married I don't really have a choice.

For someone with a vivid imagination, you sure are slow sometimes!  Imagine drawing and holding your firearm, which you drew because you feared the guy would actually do what he just told you he would do to you, and then the aggressor tackles you and takes your gun from you. 

I'd shoot him first.  Anyone stupid enough to tackle someone holding a gun on them is also stupid enough to try and kill you over a stupid argument...

It's simple math:  he terrorizes you verbally + you have a gun + he continues to attack

Gun drawn = reasonable fear of serious injury/death = upper hand

Dude, you keep talking all mysterious like you are some secret agent working for the CIA, yet you have provided no credentials whatsoever. And the points you keep trying to validate make you come off like some bloke who's only training came for some bullshit library desk security job.

Inexperience? If I am looking at someone, intending to use deadly force because they are continuing to be aggressive toward me after repeated requests to stop, and I have drawn my weapon, why twould I be in low ready? Not sure what kind of youtube training you got during your magical training sessions, but real cops and people who have been cops are very rarely, if never, at the low ready when escalating to presentation/intention of deadly force. Why? Because presenting means 'giving to', as in you plan to give a bullet to the individual if he doesn't stop. Why would you be in a 'ready' position if you are attempting to convince someone that they will die if they don't stop? Obviously if my gun is out of my holster, I have the intention to use deadly force should the situation escalate any further, so I'm pretty sure I'm going to present myself in the most intimidating position possible to try and deter the individual from either continuing his actions, or forcing me to escalate my level of force. What's scarier: having a gun pointed at you, or having a gun in a ready position?

And yes, I am quite familiar with both deescalation and continuum of force, as I taught both numerous times. What experience do you have, other than 'yeah...my job is so fucking top secret, that I'm going to play the 'I don't want to talk about my job' card'?

If the situation deescalates, the guy is either walking away, being restrained, dead or LEO has arrived to handle the situation. If you get up to presentation of deadly force and the threat isn't neutralized, then you are pretty fucking dumb for wanting to have a conversation with the guy, being that the reason you escalated to presentation of / deadly force is because you felt the threat of serious bodily injury and/or death. Why the fuck would you want to address someone after you basically told them to leave you alone or they will die? That is probably some of the dumbest shit I've ever heard with regards to CCW. What do you want to do, share some hugs and cookies with him after the situation deescalates? Get the fuck out of here.

And to you final point: YOU ARE ALREADY IN A DEADLY SITUATION IF SOMEONE IS THREATENING TO HURT/KILL YOU. If you can't see how someone who continuously threatens bodily harm / death after you have repeatedly told them to stop is a good basis for escalating force, then you need to go back to watching youtube videos and magpul dvds because you are making yourself sound pretty retarded.

You're asserting that investigators, prosecutors and a jury would conclusively rule that an assault by an unarmed person could not possibly lead to a "reasonable belief" in imminent death or serious bodily injury? Mr. Martin was unarmed when Mr. Zimmerman defended himself with a weapon. Or are you claiming that (acquittal) could only happen in Florida, or never happen in Hawaii, given their respective laws?

LOL.

I really did laugh out loud on this one.

Im glad I made you smile, at least theres a positive thing that came out of this.  I also apologize for calling you a coward,  I did it in spite as i didnt really dig the troll thing. 
Dont get  what i said twisted, im not claiming to be tough.  Nor am i condoning the braddahs outbursts/behavior but it doesnt phase me as much, maybe funtimes is right, I have seen this behavior before and I personally dont fear it.  I have been in my fair share of fights and have been mobbed and knocked out/hospitalized.  Still, I would not have even thought about use of a gun in the situation on the video.  I am a Christian and I believe in GOD and HIS word.  Namely HIS ten commandments, specifically "Thou shall not kill".   If my beliefs put me in a precarious spot because I wouldnt kill someone.  So be it.  Its my choice/belief. 
By what is in the video, I cant even say "turn the other cheek" first, as no physical contact takes place.  I value life more than others, to me it seems there are SO MANY other opportunities to de-escalate the situation that can be attempted.

I was a jpo in elementary and jrotc in hs. So it should go without saying my elite training military and police level trumps everyone here.  So let me school you on how to deal with the public as a civilian. Does it matter that civilian life is completely different than jpo/jrotc life? Lol no! When people breath it means they are clearly upping 02 in blood to ready for imminent attack. Kill them.

Wow, how did I miss this gem of a thread...  I don't know how often everyone gets out, but I'm sad to say this this type of behavior happens quite often.  For those of you that say the guy in the video was "just mouthin off" (although I would argue that his movements were aggressive) and you could just walk away are fooling yourselves.  Sure, some just like to hear themselves act tough, but others are looking to show off their physical dominance.  Shit happens fast.  Some of those types of guys may let you walk away, others are going to attack you whether you play the bigger man and try to walk away or not.  When was the last time any of you strolled downtown or waiks at night?  When was the last time you were false cracked for no reason?  When was the last time you were jumped?  When I was younger, I stopped going out because I swear I meet guys like that on the regular (but bigger) and I was tired of scrapping all the time (I've never been a fan of backing up).  Some went way out of the way to just bump into me to cause trouble.  It didn't matter if I tried to walk away or not.  For those who have not meet me I'm not a small guy, and I swear I attracted some of the lamest locals who thought they could bang.  Funniest one was while I was walking with my cooler and some locals insisted I give them a beer cuz their hawaiian... Good for you, me too... then one guy lost his shit, and that's when the fight happened.

The ignorance / arrogance of SOME of the locals make all locals look bad.  Doesn't matter where you are, there is no shortage in assholes that act like the guy in the video.

As for CCW, I am soo torn on the issue as I am a 2A supporter.  IMO one of the biggest questions is what do you do when an aggressive individual comes at you with no weapon.  Are we going to say that we can accurately describe the level of fear that someone else is feeling?  Not everyone has the same tolerances to dangerous situations.  Some may perceive a danger where they really do believe that a aggressive individual may cause them serious bodily harm that may result in death, while others may be able to handle the situation without the need for CCW.  Where is the line?

LOL....

Talk about the ignorance/ arrogance of some locals... what happened to calling me out to bench 80? SMH LOL

What about it?  Last thread you directed your insults at me and I said I would like to meet you.  Take it how you like.  Peoples attitude tend to change in person.  Truthfully, I thought it would be cool to hash out our differences in person.  If you really think that I am ignorant / arrogant, well everyone is entitled to an opinion.  I have nothing to prove so I am going to refrain from trashing threads.  In hindsight, I regret posting what you are referring to as I doubt we will ever meet.

What about it?  Last thread you directed your insults at me and I said I would like to meet you.  Take it how you like.  Peoples attitude tend to change in person.  Truthfully, I thought it would be cool to hash out our differences in person.  If you really think that I am ignorant / arrogant, well everyone is entitled to an opinion.  I have nothing to prove so I am going to refrain from trashing threads.  In hindsight, I regret posting what you are referring to as I doubt we will ever meet.