What is the absolute stupidest or dumbest... (Read 44833 times)

Kingkeoni

What is the absolute stupidest or dumbest...
« on: October 25, 2011, 11:38:45 AM »
What's the dumbest thing you've heard said about guns.

Whether in person or on a forum or whatever.
Your number one Option for Personal Security is a lifelong commitment to avoidance, deterrence, and de-escalation.

Someday someone may kill you with your own gun, but they should have to beat you to death with it because it is empty.

Kingkeoni

Re: What is the absolute stupidest or dumbest...
« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2011, 11:40:19 AM »
The thing I hear a lot and absolutely drives me batty is:
 "just buy a shotgun. You don't need to train or even aim it. Just pull the trigger and you'll blast everything in a 10 foot area."
Your number one Option for Personal Security is a lifelong commitment to avoidance, deterrence, and de-escalation.

Someday someone may kill you with your own gun, but they should have to beat you to death with it because it is empty.

Cougar8045

Re: What is the absolute stupidest or dumbest...
« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2011, 11:44:49 AM »
Mine is probably the idea that a person shot with a 45 will do a backflip and die instantly.  It doesn't stand up to even the most minute scrutiny: if a 140lb deer can take a hit right in the wheelhouse from a 150 grain rifle bullet traveling at 3,000fps; flinch, jump, and run 50 yards, how the hell do you expect a 250lb bad guy who's significanly angrier than the deer to take a hit from a 230 grain pistol bullet travelling at 900fps and get blown off his feet?  :wtf:

EDIT: What's even worse for me, is every single thing I've ever read on the Brady Campaign's website, which I read often, because I'm a masochist and I believe in knowing the enemy.  Plus I think my old lady gets some of her talking points from them, so I try to keep abreast of the latest lies so as not to be taken in by an ambush.  :thumbsup:
« Last Edit: October 25, 2011, 11:50:05 AM by Cougar8045 »
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Funtimes

Re: What is the absolute stupidest or dumbest...
« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2011, 11:45:44 AM »
"Brah... we don't issue concealed carry here." -HPD Officer @ firearms unit.
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vooduchikn

Re: What is the absolute stupidest or dumbest...
« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2011, 11:57:49 AM »
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Growler67

Re: What is the absolute stupidest or dumbest...
« Reply #5 on: October 25, 2011, 12:06:39 PM »
Pick anything ever said on shows like "Son of Guns" or "American Guns".  Responsible gun owners and gun rights advocates should remain well clear of these....... :wacko: people.

Most times the thing that usually irritates me most on forums is when someone asks for "first buy" advice the brand/model fanboi's all dog pile with whatever they have or want to pimp.  I give advice if I'm early enough in the thread but usually get drowned out buy fanboi pimps anyway.  Geberally one should get a bunch of differnt ones in their hands and feel them out.  Then considering what the intended purpose or how they expect to employ such a tool should be factored in.  Budget and so on and on but the blizzard of brand and model recommendations do nothing to to provide a potential buyer with any useful informatuion.  Those brands and models MAY work for those posters and their hands, budget, applications and skill sets.  However, they are not universal in application to EVERYONE else on the planet.
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Cougar8045

Re: What is the absolute stupidest or dumbest...
« Reply #6 on: October 25, 2011, 12:08:17 PM »
Pick anything ever said on shows like "Son of Guns" or "American Guns".  Responsible gun owners and gun rights advocates should remain well clear of these....... :wacko: people.

Most times the thing that usually irritates me most on forums is when someone asks for "first buy" advice the brand/model fanboi's all dog pile with whatever they have or want to pimp.  I give advice if I'm early enough in the thread but usually get drowned out buy fanboi pimps anyway.  Geberally one should get a bunch of differnt ones in their hands and feel them out.  Then considering what the intended purpose or how they expect to employ such a tool should be factored in.  Budget and so on and on but the blizzard of brand and model recommendations do nothing to to provide a potential buyer with any useful informatuion.  Those brands and models MAY work for those posters and their hands, budget, applications and skill sets.  However, they are not universal in application to EVERYONE else on the planet.
This is terrible advice.  Just buy a Glock, dude.  They're the hands-down best for everything and everyone.   :D
I'm just a fluffy white bunny rabbit who lost his way. 

"If a thief be found breaking in, and be smitten that he die, there shall no blood be shed for him. ..."  -Exodus 22:2

GZire

Re: What is the absolute stupidest or dumbest...
« Reply #7 on: October 25, 2011, 12:12:18 PM »
Pick anything ever said on shows like "Son of Guns" or "American Guns".  Responsible gun owners and gun rights advocates should remain well clear of these....... :wacko: people.


.......but the American Guns daughter is almost of age.......

Alex Europa

Re: What is the absolute stupidest or dumbest...
« Reply #8 on: October 25, 2011, 12:18:48 PM »
Mine is probably the idea that a person shot with a 45 will do a backflip and die instantly.  It doesn't stand up to even the most minute scrutiny: if a 140lb deer can take a hit right in the wheelhouse from a 150 grain rifle bullet traveling at 3,000fps; flinch, jump, and run 50 yards, how the hell do you expect a 250lb bad guy who's significanly angrier than the deer to take a hit from a 230 grain pistol bullet travelling at 900fps and get blown off his feet?  :wtf:

Even that is overthinking it: Newtons 3rd Law, "To every action there is always an equal and opposite reaction." If I don't get knocked on my ass by firing said firearm, then there isn't enough energy to knock the recipient on their ass.

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Growler67

Re: What is the absolute stupidest or dumbest...
« Reply #9 on: October 25, 2011, 12:19:48 PM »
Pick anything ever said on shows like "Son of Guns" or "American Guns".  Responsible gun owners and gun rights advocates should remain well clear of these....... :wacko: people.


.......but the American Guns daughter is almost of age.......

Almost of age to breed in the next generation of idiots...........unfortunately  >:(
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Cougar8045

Re: What is the absolute stupidest or dumbest...
« Reply #10 on: October 25, 2011, 12:29:22 PM »
Mine is probably the idea that a person shot with a 45 will do a backflip and die instantly.  It doesn't stand up to even the most minute scrutiny: if a 140lb deer can take a hit right in the wheelhouse from a 150 grain rifle bullet traveling at 3,000fps; flinch, jump, and run 50 yards, how the hell do you expect a 250lb bad guy who's significanly angrier than the deer to take a hit from a 230 grain pistol bullet travelling at 900fps and get blown off his feet?  :wtf:

Even that is overthinking it: Newtons 3rd Law, "To every action there is always an equal and opposite reaction." If I don't get knocked on my ass by firing said firearm, then there isn't enough energy to knock the recipient on their ass.

- Alex
Also true. 
I'm just a fluffy white bunny rabbit who lost his way. 

"If a thief be found breaking in, and be smitten that he die, there shall no blood be shed for him. ..."  -Exodus 22:2

antoinebugleboy

Re: What is the absolute stupidest or dumbest...
« Reply #11 on: October 25, 2011, 01:02:20 PM »
"Brah... we don't issue concealed carry here." -HPD Officer @ firearms unit.

I thought the law says they may, but they in fact do not.

[EDIT: Oops, sorry. I got to thinking this thread was "lies about guns" not stupid things said about guns.]
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GZire

Re: What is the absolute stupidest or dumbest...
« Reply #12 on: October 25, 2011, 01:13:16 PM »
Pick anything ever said on shows like "Son of Guns" or "American Guns".  Responsible gun owners and gun rights advocates should remain well clear of these....... :wacko: people.


.......but the American Guns daughter is almost of age.......

Almost of age to breed in the next generation of idiots...........unfortunately  >:(


You sir are a party pooper.

GPAGAP

Re: What is the absolute stupidest or dumbest...
« Reply #13 on: October 25, 2011, 10:34:42 PM »
"The racking of a pump shotgun is enough to make anyone crap their pants and run away."

... and a thread about bump firing...

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Re: What is the absolute stupidest or dumbest...
« Reply #14 on: October 26, 2011, 12:08:19 AM »
I was helping my buddy by minding the gun shop while he was out to get some lunch.  A customer walked in and asked me a question with a serious look on his face.  He said, “What caliber is a 9mm Glock 17?”
There was another time when we had a possible meth user who came into the shop and presented us with a used firearm he wanted to sell/consignment.  We asked him if it was his.  He boasted by saying it was acquired from his neighbors house.  Little did he know that one of our other patrons, who was a local police officer, was standing next to him in front of the counter. Our local LE politely told him that they received a call about a robbery in the area were one of the stolen items was an chromed STI 2011 with a personal SN.  Funny thing is, the pistol he was trying to sell was a chromed STI with the exact same SN.   
Good Times!

AWS-GTAW

Re: What is the absolute stupidest or dumbest...
« Reply #15 on: October 26, 2011, 01:25:21 AM »
I was helping my buddy by minding the gun shop while he was out to get some lunch.  A customer walked in and asked me a question with a serious look on his face.  He said, “What caliber is a 9mm Glock 17?”
There was another time when we had a possible meth user who came into the shop and presented us with a used firearm he wanted to sell/consignment.  We asked him if it was his.  He boasted by saying it was acquired from his neighbors house.  Little did he know that one of our other patrons, who was a local police officer, was standing next to him in front of the counter. Our local LE politely told him that they received a call about a robbery in the area were one of the stolen items was an chromed STI 2011 with a personal SN.  Funny thing is, the pistol he was trying to sell was a chromed STI with the exact same SN.   
Good Times!

Interesting story.

Are you sure your not going to edit your post blank later and simply fill the blank with just a ( :shaka: )  like most of your posts?

Aegis808

Re: What is the absolute stupidest or dumbest...
« Reply #16 on: October 26, 2011, 01:48:02 AM »
"even an unloaded gun can shoot people, many people have been shot by unloaded guns."

"the .50 caliber bullet power in like that of a bazooka"

"people with AK-47's can scavenge and use 5.56 in their guns too"

"these bullets have an incendiary device, it's a heat seeker. you could cook the deer while you shot it." in reference to .50 BMG

"your gun could kill you!" mom telling me about my guns

Cougar8045

Re: What is the absolute stupidest or dumbest...
« Reply #17 on: October 26, 2011, 04:46:45 AM »
"these bullets have an incendiary device, it's a heat seeker. you could cook the deer while you shot it." in reference to .50 BMG
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:  If that were true, there'd be a run on hunting rifles in .50 BMG!  >:D
I'm just a fluffy white bunny rabbit who lost his way. 

"If a thief be found breaking in, and be smitten that he die, there shall no blood be shed for him. ..."  -Exodus 22:2

Kingkeoni

Re: What is the absolute stupidest or dumbest...
« Reply #18 on: October 26, 2011, 07:59:42 AM »
"even an unloaded gun can shoot people, many people have been shot by unloaded guns."

This one I actually understand.

In many cases of negligent discharges, the person involved says " I know that gun was unloaded "
That's why we always presume a gun is loaded and even an "unloaded" gun is loaded, because even an "unloaded" gun can shoot people.

It simply means that the person was wrong and didn't follow the rules of gun safety.
Your number one Option for Personal Security is a lifelong commitment to avoidance, deterrence, and de-escalation.

Someday someone may kill you with your own gun, but they should have to beat you to death with it because it is empty.

Aegis808

Re: What is the absolute stupidest or dumbest...
« Reply #19 on: October 26, 2011, 08:13:18 AM »
"even an unloaded gun can shoot people, many people have been shot by unloaded guns."

This one I actually understand.

In many cases of negligent discharges, the person involved says " I know that gun was unloaded "
That's why we always presume a gun is loaded and even an "unloaded" gun is loaded, because even an "unloaded" gun can shoot people.

It simply means that the person was wrong and didn't follow the rules of gun safety.

forgot to provide background on that one. it was for cali's open carry rule where they had to have an unloaded handgun in order to OC.