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1x Binary Firing System Trigger Pack


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HPD is really hating all these new simulated rapid firing  products.

HPD is really hating all these new simulated rapid firing  products.

HPD hate. . . suka like 

How does this work? 1 trigger pull gets 1 round and the release gets a 2nd?

If so, I don't want to be the test case since it could be considered automatic...

Single action of the trigger as ruled by the ATF.

one action is pull another action is release. thats 2 actions.

automatic fire is one pull to maintain a continuos operation (one action) while releasing  the trigger (2nd action)  stops the firing  operation. 

(make sense)?

Why did you show me this, now I have 400 dollars more debt.   AND a ridiculous waiting time. 

*edit
Now i found the even more expensive fostech version...

Single action of the trigger as ruled by the ATF.

one action is pull another action is release. thats 2 actions.

automatic fire is one pull to maintain a continuos operation (one action) while releasing  the trigger (2nd action)  stops the firing  operation. 

(make sense)?

Two problems with that. What happens if you fire 1 round but then don't want to fire the 2nd round? Seems dangerous to be committed to the 2nd round when the situation might change.

The other is in the wording of the Hawaii law A single function of the trigger might be read to mean a complete cycling of the trigger both pull and release which would then classify the firearm as a automatic firearm regardless of what the ATF says. I wouldn't want to be the test case for that.

""Automatic firearm" means any firearm that shoots, is designed to shoot, or can be readily modified to shoot automatically more than one shot, without a manual reloading, by a single function of the trigger. "

I was wondering the same thing as eef. What about only firing 1 shot?

Two problems with that. What happens if you fire 1 round but then don't want to fire the 2nd round? Seems dangerous to be committed to the 2nd round when the situation might change.

The other is in the wording of the Hawaii law A single function of the trigger might be read to mean a complete cycling of the trigger both pull and release which would then classify the firearm as a automatic firearm regardless of what the ATF says. I wouldn't want to be the test case for that.

""Automatic firearm" means any firearm that shoots, is designed to shoot, or can be readily modified to shoot automatically more than one shot, without a manual reloading, by a single function of the trigger. "

I would say 1 function of the trigger is the pull and another one is a release.   So i think it should be fine to own.

What happens if you fire 1 round but then don't want to fire the 2nd round? Seems dangerous to be committed to the 2nd round when the situation might change.

The safety selector would have "safe", single shot mode and binary mode. According to the website, if you fire a round in binary mode you can negate the second shot by switching the selector back to single shot before releasing the trigger. I would still release the trigger with much caution.

Negate the Second Round




https://youtu.be/TNKpVaKsUic

The other is in the wording of the Hawaii law A single function of the trigger might be read to mean a complete cycling of the trigger both pull and release which would then classify the firearm as a automatic firearm regardless of what the ATF says. I wouldn't want to be the test case for that.

A single function is PULL, a second function is RELEASE.. Thats TWO functions for 2 rounds.

A single function is PULL, a second function is RELEASE.. Thats TWO functions for 2 rounds.

why does hpd care what trigger you have in your AR?

Ordered one.  Who knows when I will get it.

A single function is PULL, a second function is RELEASE.. Thats TWO functions for 2 rounds.

I wouldn't chance it.
To me a single function is the complete cycle, so trigger pull and trigger release. The trigger is spring loaded so it is going to return automatically, you aren't forcing it to return. 

Realistically it probably will never come up, but I won't chance it for a product I don't think that great anyway. Take the risk if you want but I think people should be aware this is in a gray area.

I wouldn't chance it.
To me a single function is the complete cycle, so trigger pull and trigger release. The trigger is spring loaded so it is going to return automatically, you aren't forcing it to return. 

Realistically it probably will never come up, but I won't chance it for a product I don't think that great anyway. Take the risk if you want but I think people should be aware this is in a gray area.

dude, it's not a gray area
the ATF defines each action to be a single act
there's a definition letter for both products