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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump
« Reply #1500 on: April 03, 2019, 11:10:24 AM »
Hmmm....

Notice Comey said "your president" 
I clearly remember R. Rosentein gave our POTUS the recommendation to fire the then FBI director. After following the recommendations of Rosenstein the president somehow obstructed justice, his actions were then used (by the same people who recommended he take action) as a means to try to prosecute a crime.
Seems to me that Trump is not responsible for burning down the FBI or DoJ, they did that all in their own.

True. The anti-Trump bias in the FBI and DOJ was DOCUMENTED in texts, emails, the opposite ways in which they handled the Clinton email "matter" vs the Trump FISA abuses, and so on.

They pretend to be apolitical, but they donate to Democrats, were promoted by Obama's admin, target Conservative groups and individuals, attack the Conservative press, and give special treatment to Democrats under investigation for illegally transmitting and storing very highly classified information.

Comey is worried. Criminal referrals are being sent to DOJ by the Senate Intelligence Oversight Committee to dig deeper into the attempted coup by the DOJ & FBI.

Hold onto your butts!!  :rofl:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump
« Reply #1501 on: April 03, 2019, 11:33:14 AM »
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

changemyoil66

Re: Trump
« Reply #1502 on: April 03, 2019, 01:16:57 PM »
Sounds like a 1st world problem. Can't have avocado dip for your party guests or guacamole on your gluten-free, no dairy taco salad. OMG!! The horror!!

Avocado is a tree seed. The energy you get from it is 75% from fat. Very little nutrition - or flavor for that matter.

Mexico has been improving in their efforts to stop these caravans at their own Southern border, but not enough. They also don't do anything to stop their own citizens from crossing illegally into the US.

Make it sting. They'll figure it out.



Trump cuts off funding to Hunduras and Guatamala.  Should be a wake up call to Mexico.  Let's not forget how fast El Chappo's story went quiet after it was shown monies given to democrats. Nuthin to see here...

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump
« Reply #1503 on: April 04, 2019, 02:18:00 PM »
The DC Swamp is in full panic mode.

Cummings, Waters and Schiff Letter

to Capital One Demanding Trump Records


 


https://saraacarter.com/cummings-waters-and-schiff-letter-to-capital-one-demanding-trump-records/
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

changemyoil66

Re: Trump
« Reply #1504 on: April 04, 2019, 09:15:10 PM »
Dems wanna see the full report. Cant wait. 4D chess

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eyeeatingfish

Re: Trump
« Reply #1505 on: April 04, 2019, 09:38:07 PM »
Dems wanna see the full report. Cant wait. 4D chess

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Do you object to them seeing the report?

Do you think the report should be made public?

eyeeatingfish

Re: Trump
« Reply #1506 on: April 04, 2019, 09:45:13 PM »
Nothing you posted in this comment is related to the topic.

Enough with the hijacking. Not every thread is for your little tantrums and arguments. If you have an opinion on the topic (IF?   :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:), comment. Otherwise, we don't need to see you defending yourself AGAIN for the millionth time.

Just stop.    :stopjack:

So commenting on the Mueller report is not relevant to a thread titled "Trump"?  :wacko: :wacko:

I don't have tantrums, I make comments and end up defending myself from people like you.

You have made up your mind, you want Trump to be exonerated and as such don't want to hear anything that doesn't support that viewpoint. I am pointed out the legal distinction and you want to ignore it, I don't think there is anything else I can say on this matter that will make a difference to you so I will stop wasting my time.

eyeeatingfish

Re: Trump
« Reply #1507 on: April 04, 2019, 09:50:03 PM »
So fake news now running the story about avocado shortage if Trump shuts down the border.  I guess the Russia thing is so yesterdays news.

I think the avocado market isn't going to be the one Trump is going to have to worry about. I heard a report today about how it could really affect the car industry  due to a lot of parts being shipped in and out of Mexico on a daily basis. Whether a good idea or not I don't think we can discount the economic effects of shutting down the border for a while.

ren

Re: Trump
« Reply #1508 on: April 04, 2019, 09:58:35 PM »
I wonder how shutting the border will affect the optics industry
Deeds Not Words

changemyoil66

Re: Trump
« Reply #1509 on: April 04, 2019, 10:19:31 PM »
Do you object to them seeing the report?

Do you think the report should be made public?
It should be public. Which is what Trump has been saying for a while now. But all of a sudden the fake news makes like its the DNCs idea to make it public.



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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump
« Reply #1510 on: April 04, 2019, 11:27:29 PM »
It should be public. Which is what Trump has been saying for a while now. But all of a sudden the fake news makes like its the DNCs idea to make it public.



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Exactly. Trump said he had nothing to hide. The Barr memo says Mueller found no evidence of collusion with anyone in the Trump campaign/White House.  Mueller hinted the report would be released before midterms. When that didn't;t happen, anyone with a lick of sense knew there was nothing bad for Trump in it. That's why it was delated this long. You know Mueller knew they had nothing on Trump 6 months ago. They were hoping they could get Cohen to come up with the bombshell for them.

Given that there's no collusion, obstruction becomes a moot and very unlikely issue. Why obstruct if the investigation can't hurt you?

Dems are beating a dead horse while the necropsy is being performed. It's all they have left from Mueller's waste of 2+ years and $25M that should have gone toward something we really needed, like a wall ... or a special counsel to look at the FBI handling of the Clinton and Trump investigations -- which is coming up anyway.

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

eyeeatingfish

Re: Trump
« Reply #1511 on: April 06, 2019, 07:26:45 PM »
It should be public. Which is what Trump has been saying for a while now. But all of a sudden the fake news makes like its the DNCs idea to make it public.



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I agree, but the idea was always that it should be made public, its not like that is something that was only recently suggested. Many, democrats included, have said it must be public from day 1.

We hear Trump saying it will be made public now

eyeeatingfish

Re: Trump
« Reply #1512 on: April 06, 2019, 07:30:46 PM »
Exactly. Trump said he had nothing to hide. The Barr memo says Mueller found no evidence of collusion with anyone in the Trump campaign/White House.  Mueller hinted the report would be released before midterms. When that didn't;t happen, anyone with a lick of sense knew there was nothing bad for Trump in it. That's why it was delated this long. You know Mueller knew they had nothing on Trump 6 months ago. They were hoping they could get Cohen to come up with the bombshell for them.

Given that there's no collusion, obstruction becomes a moot and very unlikely issue. Why obstruct if the investigation can't hurt you?

Dems are beating a dead horse while the necropsy is being performed. It's all they have left from Mueller's waste of 2+ years and $25M that should have gone toward something we really needed, like a wall ... or a special counsel to look at the FBI handling of the Clinton and Trump investigations -- which is coming up anyway.

There is no evidence of Mueller doing such manipulation with his investigation.

Obstruction would still be an issue in the same way that lying to a federal agent is a crime even if nothing is found on the initial topic of the investigation.

And calling the investigation a waste is a little disingenuous, they found a number of people in Trump's circle who committed crimes, it wasn't all for nothing.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump
« Reply #1513 on: April 06, 2019, 09:13:59 PM »
There is no evidence of Mueller doing such manipulation with his investigation.

Obstruction would still be an issue in the same way that lying to a federal agent is a crime even if nothing is found on the initial topic of the investigation.

And calling the investigation a waste is a little disingenuous, they found a number of people in Trump's circle who committed crimes, it wasn't all for nothing.

You like to say "you have no evidence," yet you also have no evidence of the opinions you gave. Were you involved in the Mueller investigation? No? Then my opinion, based on the fact no collusion popped up in the last 6 months proves Mueller knew there was no collusion.  Your comment has no purpose other than to be argumentative.

All the crimes discovered were unrelated to Trump and either could have been found in many other ways, such as IRS and SEC audits, or would have never existed because there would have been no interviews where people lied/misspoke to investigators.  Pure logic -- no investigation, no obstruction/false statement charges (see Gen Flynn). That would not have cost us $25M and taken over the country's news for 90% of the 2+ years.

Just read my comments and move along. Stop replying to me.  I have no interest in your opinions.  Your anti-Trump BS is boring. 
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

changemyoil66

Re: Trump
« Reply #1514 on: April 08, 2019, 10:14:25 AM »
Head of SS is resigning.  What would that have to do with DHS resigning.  Fake news is saying they're related.  I know DHS isn't doing a very good job, that's why she's out.  I didn't get to "google" today yet.

changemyoil66

Re: Trump
« Reply #1515 on: April 08, 2019, 10:43:49 AM »
NM, might be related to Maralago breach of Chinese spy?  That was the last straw.  Starting with Feinsteins Chinese spy driver for many years.

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Mdotweber

Re: Trump
« Reply #1516 on: April 09, 2019, 08:11:59 AM »
Since when did the house appropriations  committee devolve into the social justice committee?  :wtf:
"Dont forget, incoming fire has the right of way"-Clint Smith?

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump
« Reply #1517 on: April 09, 2019, 03:15:50 PM »
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

eyeeatingfish

Re: Trump
« Reply #1518 on: April 09, 2019, 09:14:49 PM »
You like to say "you have no evidence," yet you also have no evidence of the opinions you gave. Were you involved in the Mueller investigation? No? Then my opinion, based on the fact no collusion popped up in the last 6 months proves Mueller knew there was no collusion.  Your comment has no purpose other than to be argumentative.

All the crimes discovered were unrelated to Trump and either could have been found in many other ways, such as IRS and SEC audits, or would have never existed because there would have been no interviews where people lied/misspoke to investigators.  Pure logic -- no investigation, no obstruction/false statement charges (see Gen Flynn). That would not have cost us $25M and taken over the country's news for 90% of the 2+ years.

Just read my comments and move along. Stop replying to me.  I have no interest in your opinions.  Your anti-Trump BS is boring.

You were making positive statements which would require knowledge of something that hasn't been made public. My statements have been to point out certain things we don't know, significant difference. I have supported my statements with evidence and reason.

Again, you are conflating "no collusion" with "no evidence of collusion". They are not the same thing.

My comments are to correct the inaccuracies of your comments. Your pro Trump bias is obvious, you have to resort to calling me anti-trump to try and discredit my arguments.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump
« Reply #1519 on: April 09, 2019, 10:36:15 PM »
You were making positive statements which would require knowledge of something that hasn't been made public. My statements have been to point out certain things we don't know, significant difference. I have supported my statements with evidence and reason.

Again, you are conflating "no collusion" with "no evidence of collusion". They are not the same thing.

My comments are to correct the inaccuracies of your comments. Your pro Trump bias is obvious, you have to resort to calling me anti-trump to try and discredit my arguments.

I have no interest in your opinions.

Stop replying to me.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw