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eyeeatingfish

Re: Trump
« Reply #860 on: September 16, 2018, 09:21:18 PM »
Let’s also not forget that Fox and Fox News Channel are not considered part of the MSM. The reach that Fox News Channel has is very limited. The MSM has a much greater reach across the US and around the world. Fox News Channel is only a cable show. The MSM has numerous cable channels, Fox has one or two over the air TV channels. The MSM has many more. Then there is radio and newspapers. And let’s not forget the worldwide news outlets some of which I also try and get my news from which is mostly far left leaning. On top of that we have movies, mostly put out by the left and then there are all types of other shows and networks and even none news cable channels that try to push the left agenda and change the truth and history into some sort of perverted reality.

The reach and the ability to sway public opinion by the MSM is far greater than a simple majority of the world. By far much greater. If you are trying to say that the media is influencing most of the population to hold Trump to a higher standard then I would agree that there is some of that. But I believe that even us conservative and Republican folk are also holding Trump to a higher standard. For instance, I have never seen a president get as much done in his first 18 months of office as Trump has. He has kept more promises than any other president has in his first 18 months. More than any other president has during their full terms in my recent memory IMHO. Yet I see you post that “he has not done a good job at keeping his promises.” I believe that even you are holding him to a higher standard. Why are you holding him to a higher standard?

Fair enough. I would consider Fox to be part of the mainstream news media but you are right, Fox doesn't have the same size as many of the other left leaning media groups.

Do I hold him to a higher standard? I suppose maybe I do. Trump has gotten a fair amount done, not as much as some claim but still he has don't a fair amount. I haven't agree with everything he has done though that is not necessarily about a higher standard as it is a difference of opinion on where the country should be taken.

Why do I hold him to a higher standard? I guess I always hold my side to a higher standard. I hold my kids to a higher standard, I hold my wife to a higher standard, I hold myself to a higher standard. How can conservatives be better than liberals if we stoop to their level? If I am playing against someone who cheats I will try to beat them without cheating.

Inspector

Re: Trump
« Reply #861 on: September 17, 2018, 05:24:34 AM »
Fair enough. I would consider Fox to be part of the mainstream news media but you are right, Fox doesn't have the same size as many of the other left leaning media groups.

Do I hold him to a higher standard? I suppose maybe I do. Trump has gotten a fair amount done, not as much as some claim but still he has don't a fair amount. I haven't agree with everything he has done though that is not necessarily about a higher standard as it is a difference of opinion on where the country should be taken.

Why do I hold him to a higher standard? I guess I always hold my side to a higher standard. I hold my kids to a higher standard, I hold my wife to a higher standard, I hold myself to a higher standard. How can conservatives be better than liberals if we stoop to their level? If I am playing against someone who cheats I will try to beat them without cheating.
I like to think that I have held all of the presidents that have been in office in my lifetime to a high standard. Hopefully, I held them all to the same high standard. Every president in my recent memory has also disappointed me in some ways. Some presidents have disappointed me more than others. And Trump is no different.
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump
« Reply #862 on: September 17, 2018, 12:23:22 PM »
I hope this doesn't make [ fill in the blank ] look bad.   :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

drck1000

Re: Trump
« Reply #863 on: September 17, 2018, 12:36:47 PM »
If any of the implicates HRC, I hope those folks are current on their life insurance. . . :o

drck1000

Re: Trump
« Reply #864 on: September 17, 2018, 12:44:38 PM »
You are completely correct. What I may not live long enough to see is what direction we are going to go over the next 30-40 years as a country in general. Are we really going to move towards socialism? Are we going to see an actual civil war? I read that the newest generation coming of age (Gen-Z?) is turning out to be very conservative. Is this going to change the direction of the country back to a more neutral or conservative direction? Or is it going to be too little too late. Are they going to be the radical right wing fringe group or the majority? The biggest question I have is are we going to lose our 1st and 2nd amendment rights?
I think the tides change as time change.  Lots affected by economy.  When I was still living in Seattle, we had a boom of young engineers since the economy was really good.  Then when I moved back to Hawaii, it continued.  We started noticing a bunch of younger engineers with the "what does this job/company do for me" attitude, whereas it wasn't like that when I got out of school.  We noticed that many of the 1-5 year experience engineers were tougher to motivate and would jump around companies.  Someone explained that was likely because the market allowed it.  That the economy was good for such a long period of time in the late 90s to early 2000s that some of the workforce shaping trends didn't hit.  Something like there had been a cycle of about 5-7 years the market takes a downturn and companies need to get leaner and let go of excess baggage.  Since the market had not experienced that for a while, it emboldened the younger engineers to shop around.  Well, I know more than a few who got left out when the market did change and they had earned reputations for chasing jobs. 

If the Gen Z'ers are being more conservative, I think that would help balance things out some.  In this age of social media, I think the liberal mindset will continue to spread as it tends to feed on the weaker minded (just MO). 

As for 1st and 2nd amendment rights.  I don't see much changing with respect to 1A.  The 2A however, I do see further erosion. 

changemyoil66

Re: Trump
« Reply #865 on: September 17, 2018, 02:07:55 PM »
If any of the implicates HRC, I hope those folks are current on their life insurance. . . :o

Question #18 on a life policy application, "Have you ever worked for or with the Clinton's"

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump
« Reply #866 on: September 17, 2018, 10:16:30 PM »
He didn't come out and say it, but it sounds like it's not cool being Spartacus anymore.

How quickly things change!   :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump
« Reply #867 on: September 21, 2018, 11:45:35 AM »
Another campaign promise kept ...

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Promise made, promise kept.
Today, President Trump signed legislation that
provides historic funding to care for our nation’s
veterans.

https://twitter.com/WhiteHouse/status/1043223660302151680
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

rklapp

Re: Trump
« Reply #868 on: September 21, 2018, 10:00:39 PM »
I think it's time for President Trump to fire the treasonous Pence and appoint Hannity as his VP.
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump
« Reply #869 on: September 21, 2018, 10:12:04 PM »
I think it's time for President Trump to fire the treasonous Pence and appoint Hannity as his VP.


He can't. Pence has to be impeached by the House & Senate to be removed.

Do you even Constitution?
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump
« Reply #870 on: September 25, 2018, 04:36:44 PM »
If you missed it, Trump backtracked on ordering the FBI/DOJ to release unredacted texts from the major Russia Collusion investigation players as well as the actual FISA Warrant Applications.

Today, he announced some allies have convinced him releasing that material unreacted could jeopardize their sources and methods.

My question is, how do these allies (I assume UK) know this is true unless they have access to the SECRET FISA COURT DOCUMENTS.

 :wtf:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

punaperson

Re: Trump
« Reply #871 on: September 25, 2018, 04:44:30 PM »
If you missed it, Trump backtracked on ordering the FBI/DOJ to release unredacted texts from the major Russia Collusion investigation players as well as the actual FISA Warrant Applications.

Today, he announced some allies have convinced him releasing that material unreacted could jeopardize their sources and methods.

My question is, how do these allies (I assume UK) know this is true unless they have access to the SECRET FISA COURT DOCUMENTS.

 :wtf:
Our leading allies in Congress, Jordan, Meadows and Gaetz are not happy with Trump's reversal. Nor am I.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump
« Reply #872 on: September 25, 2018, 08:10:30 PM »
Our leading allies in Congress, Jordan, Meadows and Gaetz are not happy with Trump's reversal. Nor am I.

Since we know the dossier was created in part by a former MI6 agent, it's very possible there is even more in the warrants, emails and texts related to Steel and his sources.

Sounds like the foreign influence in US elections might be more a UK problem than Russian.  Surprise, surprise.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump
« Reply #873 on: September 30, 2018, 04:12:08 PM »
More WINNING!!!!    :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Canada agrees to join trade accord with U.S. and Mexico, sending new NAFTA deal to Congress

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BREAKING:  Canada has agreed to join the trade deal that the U.S. and Mexico announced last month,
according to two people familiar with the matter. The move preserves the three-country format of the
original North American Free Trade Agreement favored by business groups and congressional Republicans.

The treaty is expected to be signed by leaders of all three countries in 60 days, with Congress likely to act on it in 2019.
A formal announcement is expected before midnight. This story will be updated.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/us-and-canada-closing-in-on-a-new-nafta-deal-as-deadline-looms/2018/09/30/2ef72018-c50b-11e8-b1ed-1d2d65b86d0c_story.html?utm_term=.cbdd66198f49
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Inspector

Re: Trump
« Reply #874 on: September 30, 2018, 04:30:36 PM »
More WINNING!!!!    :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Canada agrees to join trade accord with U.S. and Mexico, sending new NAFTA deal to Congress

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/us-and-canada-closing-in-on-a-new-nafta-deal-as-deadline-looms/2018/09/30/2ef72018-c50b-11e8-b1ed-1d2d65b86d0c_story.html?utm_term=.cbdd66198f49
You knew it was just a matter of time. I am interested in finding out what the tariffs on American dairy products are now? As this was the biggest sticking point between the US and Canada.

On a side note I think China is going to be a a tougher nut to crack. Things are not looking great for them. However, they are far from being in panic mode. I heard on the financial news that they are going to wait until after the elections to see how the landscape changes. And if they have to, they will wait until after the 2020 elections. But, it might get too bad for them if they wait too long. A large chunk of tariffs have not hit them yet. So we’ll have to see how their waiting game turns out.
SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump
« Reply #875 on: September 30, 2018, 04:34:27 PM »
You knew it was just a matter of time. I am interested in finding out what the tariffs on American dairy products are now? As this was the biggest sticking point between the US and Canada.

On a side note I think China is going to be a a tougher nut to crack. Things are not looking great for them. However, they are far from being in panic mode. I heard on the financial news that they are going to wait until after the elections to see how the landscape changes. And if they have to, they will wait until after the 2020 elections. But, it might get too bad for them if they wait too long. A large chunk of tariffs have not hit them yet. So we’ll have to see how their waiting game turns out.

Regardless of how China works out, this is one more in a long list of campaign promises kept: renegotiate NAFTA to make it fairer for the US.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Inspector

Re: Trump
« Reply #876 on: September 30, 2018, 04:40:37 PM »
Regardless of how China works out, this is one more in a long list of campaign promises kept: renegotiate NAFTA to make it fairer for the US.
I agree. But China is the biggie. If we can change China’s behavior and get into a fairer trade deal with them, our trade deficit might be small enough that we can stop going farther into debt every quarter.

You can imagine the feather in Trump’s hat if he pulls China off.
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump
« Reply #877 on: September 30, 2018, 04:41:02 PM »
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BEIJING, Sept 30 (Reuters) - Growth in China's manufacturing sector cooled more sharply than
expected in September, suggesting U.S. trade tariffs are starting to deal a heavier blow to the
world's second-largest economy.

The official Purchasing Managers' Index (PMI), released by the National Bureau of Statistics on
Sunday, fell to a 7-month low of 50.8 in September from 51.3 in August, but remained above the
50-point mark that separates growth from contraction for the 26th straight month.

Analysts surveyed by Reuters had forecast the reading would ease to 51.2.
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While China's official export data has proved surprisingly resilient so far, many analysts believe
companies have been rushing out shipments to the United States to beat successive rounds of
tariffs, raising the risk of a sharp drop off once duties are actually imposed. The deepening slump
in export orders may be bearing that theory out.

Export-reliant Chinese cities and provinces are already showing the strain. Guangdong, China's
biggest province by gross domestic product, reported a drop in exports in the first eight months
from a year earlier.

Demand in China had already been slowing before the U.S. trade row flared, as a multi-year crackdown
on riskier lending and debt started to push up companies' borrowing costs. Fixed-asset investment
growth has sunk to a record low.


https://www.cnbc.com/2018/09/29/reuters-america-update-1-china-sept-factory-growth-slows-amid-trade-tensions.html
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Inspector

SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

drck1000

Re: Trump
« Reply #879 on: September 30, 2018, 04:47:45 PM »
I agree. But China is the biggie. If we can change China’s behavior and get into a fairer trade deal with them, our trade deficit might be small enough that we can stop going farther into debt every quarter.

You can imagine the feather in Trump’s hat if he pulls China off.
Meh. “Sgt Stolen Valor” Blumenthal will say it was Obama who set that in motion.  :crazy: