New Colt Pythons! (Read 37749 times)

macsak

Re: New Colt Pythons!
« Reply #160 on: April 15, 2020, 01:10:06 PM »
ok, where's all the snark about price gouging NOW? >:D

it's all about you, jc

Inspector

Re: New Colt Pythons!
« Reply #161 on: April 16, 2020, 03:39:01 AM »
2Gs!   :o

Defintely have other things for that much money. . .
Yup, too much for my blood. The price gouging is horrific. Especially considering the retail price is $1,500.

I don’t remember where I read or watched a video regarding the actual problems with the new Python, but these are the numbers as I remember them. My memory may be distorted so please don’t count me on these. It is for reference only. The factory reported selling around 2,500 total. And out of those around 22-25 came back for repairs. Most of those were cosmetic repairs. While most of the rest had something to do with the side plate being loose. It was stated that the loose side plate could cause the intermittent issues we saw with Hickok and others. The only real issue the company addressed was the claim of occasional light primer strikes. They apparently increased the strength of the hammer spring in response to this. If these numbers are accurate I would say there is no problem with the design. Nor with the quality of the piece. Mostly just a problem with their QC letting a few pieces out that shouldn’t have.
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drck1000

Re: New Colt Pythons!
« Reply #162 on: April 16, 2020, 08:58:22 AM »
Yup, too much for my blood. The price gouging is horrific. Especially considering the retail price is $1,500.

I don’t remember where I read or watched a video regarding the actual problems with the new Python, but these are the numbers as I remember them. My memory may be distorted so please don’t count me on these. It is for reference only. The factory reported selling around 2,500 total. And out of those around 22-25 came back for repairs. Most of those were cosmetic repairs. While most of the rest had something to do with the side plate being loose. It was stated that the loose side plate could cause the intermittent issues we saw with Hickok and others. The only real issue the company addressed was the claim of occasional light primer strikes. They apparently increased the strength of the hammer spring in response to this. If these numbers are accurate I would say there is no problem with the design. Nor with the quality of the piece. Mostly just a problem with their QC letting a few pieces out that shouldn’t have.
Well, that's good if they seemed to have worked out all the kinks, or that the kinks were hopefully easily remedied and not major flaws. 

I am not very nostalgic when it comes to guns.  Yeah, the guns my dad left me will have special meaning, but not really for any other gun.  Not even the first gun I bought.  While I am still interested in the reboot of the Python, if it was in the $800-1000 price range, I would likely give it a go. 

stangzilla

Re: New Colt Pythons!
« Reply #163 on: July 14, 2020, 08:43:58 AM »
https://www.guns.com/firearms/handguns/revolver/colt-python-stainless-2020-357-magnum-38-special-double-action-6-rounds-4-25-barrel-2-63-lbs-new?p=64894

$2249.97
why not just say 2250.  but anyways, price keeps climbing for the new Pythons
I'm glad I picked up a nice Springfield 1911 for much cheaper.  I could probably add on a S&W PC revolver, combined with the 1911, about the same price as the new Python
i'm not too happy with Colt and how the price is so high on the Python bc supply is so low.  maybe its a great revolver, but I wouldn't know bc there arent any to look at. also how they recently went out of the AR business to the civilian market and then when price is going high and demand is high, now they want to cash in on the market.  i can get double the quantity of firearm and have at least or higher quality than Colt.  i have 1 Colt, the Cobra.  its a nice gun but its not leaps and bounds over a Ruger or S&W of similar value. its not like the Python is in super high demand like an AR these days.  i'm no market genius but seems to me that Colt could have a corner on the higher end revolver market.  forget the AR and SA revolvers for now, just produce a ton of Pythons for a few months and sell them for 1300 which they were selling for at the beginning.  i bet they would make more money selling Pythons at a cheaper price than selling AR's at an inflated price.  everyone and their momma makes AR's, but only Colt makes the Python.  that could be their marketing slogan
2250 is just too high price for me.  theres better things i could buy for that money.  maybe if i was uber rich, i'd still get one, maybe not.  but i'm not so its out of the question now
i've been thinking for a while: wait for the Python, or plan B:  get a good 1911, and that's what i did, just gotta wait for my hpd appts

drck1000

Re: New Colt Pythons!
« Reply #164 on: July 14, 2020, 09:51:03 AM »
SNIP

i've been thinking for a while: wait for the Python, or plan B:  get a good 1911, and that's what i did, just gotta wait for my hpd appts
I agree that the pricing is too high.  What range of 1911 are you looking at? 

I've long wanted a nice WC or Nighthawk, but I still have a difficult time going for it at that price range.  Maybe a nice SA 1911. 

stangzilla

Re: New Colt Pythons!
« Reply #165 on: July 14, 2020, 10:36:26 AM »
I agree that the pricing is too high.  What range of 1911 are you looking at? 

I've long wanted a nice WC or Nighthawk, but I still have a difficult time going for it at that price range.  Maybe a nice SA 1911.

a few weeks ago i bought a Springfield Long Beach Operator, made for the Long Beach swat team, limited production but its not custom.  its built on the Loaded Operator platform.  has flared magwell and Trijicon night sights.
i would love to get a Nighthawk custom, or Les Baer, or wilson combat, or TRP Operator.  although i like the GI recoil system instead of the full length rod thats in the TRP platform
we'll see how it shoots when i pick it up in a couple months

drck1000

Re: New Colt Pythons!
« Reply #166 on: July 14, 2020, 01:01:36 PM »
a few weeks ago i bought a Springfield Long Beach Operator, made for the Long Beach swat team, limited production but its not custom.  its built on the Loaded Operator platform.  has flared magwell and Trijicon night sights.
i would love to get a Nighthawk custom, or Les Baer, or wilson combat, or TRP Operator.  although i like the GI recoil system instead of the full length rod thats in the TRP platform
we'll see how it shoots when i pick it up in a couple months
I was looking at the Range Officer and Loaded lines, but there are lots of other lines/models that looked good to me.  Including the Loaded Operator.  I used to really want a TRP at one point too. 

I recall you posting about the LBO.  Sweet!  Too bad it is stuck on "registration jail".   :(

Inspector

Re: New Colt Pythons!
« Reply #167 on: July 14, 2020, 01:29:53 PM »
https://www.guns.com/firearms/handguns/revolver/colt-python-stainless-2020-357-magnum-38-special-double-action-6-rounds-4-25-barrel-2-63-lbs-new?p=64894

$2249.97
why not just say 2250.  but anyways, price keeps climbing for the new Pythons
I'm glad I picked up a nice Springfield 1911 for much cheaper.  I could probably add on a S&W PC revolver, combined with the 1911, about the same price as the new Python
i'm not too happy with Colt and how the price is so high on the Python bc supply is so low.  maybe its a great revolver, but I wouldn't know bc there arent any to look at. also how they recently went out of the AR business to the civilian market and then when price is going high and demand is high, now they want to cash in on the market.  i can get double the quantity of firearm and have at least or higher quality than Colt.  i have 1 Colt, the Cobra.  its a nice gun but its not leaps and bounds over a Ruger or S&W of similar value. its not like the Python is in super high demand like an AR these days.  i'm no market genius but seems to me that Colt could have a corner on the higher end revolver market.  forget the AR and SA revolvers for now, just produce a ton of Pythons for a few months and sell them for 1300 which they were selling for at the beginning.  i bet they would make more money selling Pythons at a cheaper price than selling AR's at an inflated price.  everyone and their momma makes AR's, but only Colt makes the Python.  that could be their marketing slogan
2250 is just too high price for me.  theres better things i could buy for that money.  maybe if i was uber rich, i'd still get one, maybe not.  but i'm not so its out of the question now
i've been thinking for a while: wait for the Python, or plan B:  get a good 1911, and that's what i did, just gotta wait for my hpd appts
That’s waaaay too much money. We are talking close to what a classic Python goes for. I’d rather own an original in blue and wood for a little more money. I have taken a couple of my Smiths to a gunsmith and had some work done on them. And for a lot less money than a Python I have 2 revolvers that are extremely enjoyable to shoot.
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stangzilla

Re: New Colt Pythons!
« Reply #168 on: July 14, 2020, 04:25:25 PM »
That’s waaaay too much money. We are talking close to what a classic Python goes for. I’d rather own an original in blue and wood for a little more money. I have taken a couple of my Smiths to a gunsmith and had some work done on them. And for a lot less money than a Python I have 2 revolvers that are extremely enjoyable to shoot.

I did trigger spring upgrades on my 6" GP100 and 3" GP100 Wiley Clapp, also changed the sights and grips on the 6".  the 3" already had good grips and a brass bead front sight so I left those alone.
now they shoot really well.  the 6" is one of my most accurate and 1 of my favorite revolvers.  They aren't Pythons but they are great revolvers.  the 6" is from 1990 and looks like new.  the 2 former owners hardly shot it
unless the Python get a whole lot cheaper, i'm going to pass on it
I did see a S&W PC 44mag short barrel that I might take a look at.  I don't really like a short barrel 44mag, but if the trigger is good and it feels good in my hand, i'll just have to reload for it or shoot 44sp.  but that's just a thought for now

Inspector

Re: New Colt Pythons!
« Reply #169 on: July 15, 2020, 01:58:11 AM »
I did trigger spring upgrades on my 6" GP100 and 3" GP100 Wiley Clapp, also changed the sights and grips on the 6".  the 3" already had good grips and a brass bead front sight so I left those alone.
now they shoot really well.  the 6" is one of my most accurate and 1 of my favorite revolvers.  They aren't Pythons but they are great revolvers.  the 6" is from 1990 and looks like new.  the 2 former owners hardly shot it
unless the Python get a whole lot cheaper, i'm going to pass on it
I did see a S&W PC 44mag short barrel that I might take a look at.  I don't really like a short barrel 44mag, but if the trigger is good and it feels good in my hand, i'll just have to reload for it or shoot 44sp.  but that's just a thought for now
I think the mystique of the Original Python is the only thing attractive to me any more. The Pythons of the day were legendary. Great triggers, a smaller lighter frame, still holds six shots, accuracy with just about anything you put through it. Not to mention the bright blue finish and high quality walnut grips. But here it is 50 years later and Smith and Ruger are still making great revolvers. At a much better price. A few years ago I picked up a couple of 70’s era Smiths for $250 each. I added a little for gunsmithing. Add a little for some exotic wood grips. With my reloads they are as accurate and with the trigger work they are just as enjoyable to shoot as a Python. They are not quite as beautiful as the Original Python, but the older Smiths are almost as good looking. So now the Original Python is nothing more than a childhood dream. The new Python is desirable at MSRP or less. But not more.

There are a couple of High Standards out here I want to buy first. But I am still on the lookout for that project revolver I spoke about earlier. I’m still looking for a 60’s or 70’s and maybe even an 80’s Smith or Ruger. Preferably in 41Mag or SPL. Maybe even in one of the 32’s. But I’ll take a 44 or 357 depending on model and price. And just recently I was offered a project Spanish Mauser for $100. The owner took it all apart and couldn’t put it back together. But even worse, couldn’t find a firing pin for it. I found a firing pin and a gunsmith out here that has two parts Mausers so I’ll use him to complete this project for me (Headspace and safety check). Matter of fact I am taking it to him today. If he does a nice job then I’ll have him do some trigger work on my 627 PC. But if that project revolver becomes available then it will get priority.
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