I was Air Force.
The ship commander rightfully was removed from command.
You don't go outside protocol and reveal your weapons systems weaknesses.
Did you know that a Nuke mounted on a B52 went to "Armed" condition
while on the ground( that is very bad).
I had just finished servicing an Avionics problem(unrelated) on that aircraft.
Did that ever make the news?
They had to fly in a crew to disarm the weapon as we had no local skill sets for that.
Did the base commander evacuate the base?  No.
A 20 Kiloton bomb would make a mess if it were to go boom.
The Navy secretary also really screwed up. so it was also correct that he is also gone.
The Military has rules, protocols, and many un-written rules for a reason.
Even if those rules, protocols, and un-written rules seem to be
unreasonable(most are).
Your focus is the Mission.
Just in case you are mistaken I was not a "Gung ho" NCO.
I did take my job very seriously.  When you are crawling
around Nukes at age 18, you learn quick.

 

  He did follow certain protocol from his early request. And being in command for so long, he knows that the military takes time to get stuff done.

But the fact is that he sent an unsecured email about the ships status.  Even if that email stated that they're still operational, it still gives info to who ever that there are sick people aboard and operational status is now in question.  Which could open them up to attack or attacks in the area knowing that a carriers abilities are in question.

Don't get me wrong, I'm sure his sailors love him and up to this point, he's a great captain, by evidence of him leaving the ship.  How many captains get that kind of send off?  Talked to a few Navy guys and they said that kind of send off doesn't happen.  1 guy was in the Navy in the 70's and another got out 5 years ago.  Both were on carriers.

On a plus note, he was just relieved of command.  He keeps his rank and no further NJP or anything.  He will most likely retire.  So even if Trump does look into the matter, what's he going to do?  Put him back in command of the carrier?  This isn't a #freeeddie.

So I don't think he's either a hero or a trader.  He's just a good captain who thought he was doing right by his crew and messed up.

Similarly, as I stated in my original post:

The recent firing of Captain Crozier of the nuclear aircraft carrier, USS Theodore Roosevelt, is the most high profile event that illustrated how far the US military will go to ensure discipline within its ranks in order to dominate the seas.  His being relieved of his command, though justifiable, nevertheless shows that there are still patriotic Americans who will not sacrifice the health and well-being of the personnel under their command for imperial goals.

I ended my post by sharing not only my view, but most of his crew, and much of the American public as to him being a hero to his ship and America.

I never said the US Navy was not justified in his dismissal, but rather alluded how his being sacked of his command served as an object lesson to other US commanders to not get any ideas of doing whatever it takes to protect those under them from imminent harm in the goal of imperial dominance.

Similarly, as I stated in my original post:

I ended my post by sharing not only my view, but most of his crew, and much of the American public as to him being a hero to his ship and America.

I never said the US Navy was not justified in his dismissal, but rather alluded how his being sacked of his command served as an object lesson to other US commanders to not get any ideas of doing whatever it takes to protect those under them from imminent harm in the goal of imperial dominance.

him loosing his command was an object lesson to other US commanders not to break the chain of command

"Unit, Corps, God, Country"

I was Air Force.
The ship commander rightfully was removed from command.
You don't go outside protocol and reveal your weapons systems weaknesses.
Did you know that a Nuke mounted on a B52 went to "Armed" condition
while on the ground( that is very bad).
I had just finished servicing an Avionics problem(unrelated) on that aircraft.
Did that ever make the news?
They had to fly in a crew to disarm the weapon as we had no local skill sets for that.
Did the base commander evacuate the base?  No.
A 20 Kiloton bomb would make a mess if it were to go boom.
The Navy secretary also really screwed up. so it was also correct that he is also gone.
The Military has rules, protocols, and many un-written rules for a reason.
Even if those rules, protocols, and un-written rules seem to be
unreasonable(most are).
Your focus is the Mission.
Just in case you are mistaken I was not a "Gung ho" NCO.
I did take my job very seriously.  When you are crawling
around Nukes at age 18, you learn quick.

One of my first projects when I moved back to HI was a hangar at Andersen AFB.  We were talking with one of the B2 crews, which was still pretty hush hush back then, and they mentioned that they were part of one of the first waves of one of the Iraq conflict/war/whatever.  Anyways, they were enroute when a commercial flight caught wind of them and started announcing on the air traffic net, even to the passengers on the plane.  Yeah, those comms got shut down pretty quick. . .

him loosing his command was an object lesson to other US commanders not to break the chain of command

"Unit, Corps, God, Country"

"I like all you Navy boys. Every time we gotta go some place to fight, you fellas always give us a ride."

I have seen what the navy does to the psychology and immune systems of people stuck on board for long periods of time, and I would never recommend anyone to go into that line of service. The crime that the captain committed was caring about his men at a time when we are not at war (at least not that kind of war) but the brass still insists on treating sailors like wartime expendables. This is a pandemic, so any country that escalates using their navy risks losing the initiative simply because the sailors would start dropping life flies.  Service men are dying because our Wall Street masters refuse to let our armed forces negotiate a parlay to let everyone recover. People might get used to dealing with problems with diplomacy, and that would be a disaster for those who have built their careers around stealing taxpayer money by bribing government officials into purchasing overpriced weapons systems.

him loosing his command was an object lesson to other US commanders not to break the chain of command

"Unit, Corps, God, Country"

Due to the absence of a formal inquiry of the events, I am in no position to challenge the stated official reason given for the ouster of Captain Crozier.

However, according to his close friend that graduated with Captain Crozier at the US Naval Academy as well as a graduate of TOPGUN, Brett Odom, as well as other media sources, there is exists some doubt as to the "real reasons given" that led to Crozier's loss of command.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/04/07/navy-fired-defamed-my-friend-over-coronavirus-letter-column/2960627001/

https://thehill.com/opinion/national-security/491388-the-courage-of-navy-captain-brett-crozier

"I like all you Navy boys. Every time we gotta go some place to fight, you fellas always give us a ride."

"Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a weapon and stand a post."

"I like all you Navy boys. Every time we gotta go some place to fight, you fellas always give us a ride."

You sound like my BIL(a retired Gunnery Sergent).
About Andersen AFB,  I was stationed there with MAC, but got periodically loaned over to the SAC side
As I was a SAC trained killer(Minot ND B52's and KC's)
Where did they put the B2 hangars at?  North end?
I'd be surprised if they took out the revetments they kept the Buffs in.
Guam taught me about island life, I guess that is why I ended up on the BI.
I could never handle Oahu.

You sound like my BIL(a retired Gunnery Sergent).
About Andersen AFB,  I was stationed there with MAC, but got periodically loaned over to the SAC side
As I was a SAC trained killer(Minot ND B52's and KC's)
Where did they put the B2 hangars at?  North end?
I'd be surprised if they took out the revetments they kept the Buffs in.
Guam taught me about island life, I guess that is why I ended up on the BI.
I could never handle Oahu.

That's a quote from a movie. . .  I mean, that was a quote from a movie, sir. . .

Not sure if the flightline layout is the same from back when you were there, but there's been a lot of construction since the late 90s.  I actually designed the next hangar that was built after the B2 hangar when I was a consultant.  After construction finished, I used to tell the folks on Guam that if there's ever a huge typhoon on the way, that hangar would be the safest building on Guam. 

Guam taught me about island life, I guess that is why I ended up on the BI.
I could never handle Oahu.

Shhh, someone might hear you.  If you commit a serious infraction instead of life in prison, you might get life on Oahu without the possibility of leaving.

"I like all you Navy boys. Every time we gotta go some place to fight, you fellas always give us a ride."

of course! that's what Marine stands for...
My Ass Rides In Naval Equipment
RMCS (SW) Ret, USN

Covid-19 has really uncovered the pitfalls of financing the largest military the World has seen.  Most recently, it has brought to light how America's soldiers and seamen are nothing but expendable assets in order to maintain the American empire.

The recent firing of Captain Crozier of the nuclear aircraft carrier, USS Theodore Roosevelt, is the most high profile event that illustrated how far the US military will go to ensure discipline within its ranks in order to dominate the seas.  His being relieved of his command, though justifiable, nevertheless shows that there are still patriotic Americans who will not sacrifice the health and well-being of the personnel under their command for imperial goals.

Why do you think his being removed from command was justified? I know the letter he wrote was released to the media but last I had seen about the story is they hadn't proved who released the letter?

Why do you think his being removed from command was justified? I know the letter he wrote was released to the media but last I had seen about the story is they hadn't proved who released the letter?

Like with any other job, it is the prerogative of those in charge to promote or replace/reassign subordinates as they feel fit.  I personally don't agree with the US Navy's decision to relieve Captain Crozier of his command, but agree that it is within their right to do so if they wished.  If they kicked him out of the US Navy, that would be a different story.

First sailor aboard the USS Theodore Roosevelt dies due to Covid-19.  https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/us-sailor-from-coronavirus-hit-aircraft-carrier-dies-after-contracting-virus/ar-BB12yJdh?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=mailsignout

More evidence showing how Captain Crozier's actions in this matter was that of not treating his crew as expendable assets and indeed proving himself being a hero to his crew.

First sailor aboard the USS Theodore Roosevelt dies due to Covid-19.  https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/us-sailor-from-coronavirus-hit-aircraft-carrier-dies-after-contracting-virus/ar-BB12yJdh?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=mailsignout

More evidence showing how Captain Crozier's actions in this matter was that of not treating his crew as expendable assets and indeed proving himself being a hero to his crew.

Shocking! You care for our US military

Shocking! You care for our US military

When it fits within his narrow view of the world. . .

From the information I received, it hasn't been confirmed that the death was linked directly to CV19.  I'm not saying it wasn't, but rushing to capitalize on a death to prove a point is no better than our politicians. . . 

People of Guam, anyone?  Wonder how many have been exposed because, feelings?

When it fits within his narrow view of the world. . .

From the information I received, it hasn't been confirmed that the death was linked directly to CV19.  I'm not saying it wasn't, but rushing to capitalize on a death to prove a point is no better than our politicians. . . 

Not that it matters, but you really don't know who I am or what I do or who I work with for a living and yet feel qualified to judge my World views, just because I have a different perspective of things from you.

May I also add that you have a narrow view of the World as well.

Shocking! You care for our US military

I care for the health and well-being of all people, which I distinguish from my disdain for any imperial acts by the US military.