Hawaii politics (Read 26967 times)

Rocky

Hawaii politics
« on: October 09, 2020, 06:20:23 AM »
     Watched the debates last night and to me the "preference's" were obvious.
If you watched, you also may have noticed that  the audio and visual quality of the more "right" leaning or newcomer candidates was much crappier than the "left".
    Noticed it on the very first debate and thought "meh poor connection" but dismissed that thought after 2 hrs of the same.
Another one had split screen when preferred spoke apparently unbeknownst to other candidate but not vice versa.
Another had "eye catching" tool bar pop up on non-preferred's discussion

Amamiya clear pic and sound, Blangiardi fuzzy and broken audio.
Steve Alm  clear pic and sound Megan Kau  broken audio.
Marzo and Roth the same.

    Was pretty F'n blatant if you ask me.  :grrr:
If anything it tells you who NOT t vote for.  ;)
“I ask you to judge me by the enemies I have made.”
                                                           Franklin D. Roosevelt

ren

Re: Hawaii politics
« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2020, 07:15:09 AM »
don't like any of the candidates but the most blaring and corrupt is the weasel Amemiya.
Deeds Not Words

omnigun

Re: Hawaii politics
« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2020, 08:18:34 AM »
     Watched the debates last night and to me the "preference's" were obvious.
If you watched, you also may have noticed that  the audio and visual quality of the more "right" leaning or newcomer candidates was much crappier than the "left".
    Noticed it on the very first debate and thought "meh poor connection" but dismissed that thought after 2 hrs of the same.
Another one had split screen when preferred spoke apparently unbeknownst to other candidate but not vice versa.
Another had "eye catching" tool bar pop up on non-preferred's discussion

Amamiya clear pic and sound, Blangiardi fuzzy and broken audio.
Steve Alm  clear pic and sound Megan Kau  broken audio.
Marzo and Roth the same.

    Was pretty F'n blatant if you ask me.  :grrr:
If anything it tells you who NOT t vote for.  ;)

Haven't watched it but I know from an IT perspective I doubt this is a conspiracy.  It would take too much effort to ruin the other peoples connections/quality.  Its probably that some people had better internet and camera and microphone.  Purely hardware issue.

QUIETShooter

Re: Hawaii politics
« Reply #3 on: October 09, 2020, 09:21:38 AM »
I feel Hawaii politics is so corrupt that what you inferred about the "preferences" is highly possible.

Many people don't vote because they feel nothing will change.  They don't realize that their very action of not voting is ensuring just that.

Same old.  Same old.  And yet these very people grumble....... :rofl:
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

Rocky

Re: Hawaii politics
« Reply #4 on: October 09, 2020, 11:13:33 AM »
“I ask you to judge me by the enemies I have made.”
                                                           Franklin D. Roosevelt

changemyoil66

Re: Hawaii politics
« Reply #5 on: October 09, 2020, 12:15:27 PM »
Haven't watched it but I know from an IT perspective I doubt this is a conspiracy.

That's what "they" want you to think.

changemyoil66

Re: Hawaii politics
« Reply #6 on: October 09, 2020, 12:16:42 PM »
Kau has my vote.  She has shown up to our 2a rally at the capitol.

Between rick and keith, it's a shit sandwich and you have to take a bite.  Since most of the unions are endorsing Keith, I'll go with Rick.  Rick did email me back saying he does not support CCW or OC.  But neither does Keith so same same.

ren

Re: Hawaii politics
« Reply #7 on: October 09, 2020, 12:28:00 PM »
Deeds Not Words

Rocky

Re: Hawaii politics
« Reply #8 on: October 09, 2020, 01:23:54 PM »
Weasel Amemiya is endorsed by BLM
https://www.facebook.com/pg/AmemiyaForMayor/posts/?ref=page_internal
And that just adds to my
Amemiya's main concerns are Homelessness, Green Energy, Hawaiian rights none of great concern to me.
The fact that he was also Endorsed By Four More Honolulu City Council Members and wants to use CARES Act, HEROES Act for the rail project just pisses me off more

Kau and Rick  :thumbsup:
“I ask you to judge me by the enemies I have made.”
                                                           Franklin D. Roosevelt

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Hawaii politics
« Reply #9 on: October 09, 2020, 02:03:09 PM »
And that just adds to my
Amemiya's main concerns are Homelessness, Green Energy, Hawaiian rights none of great concern to me.
The fact that he was also Endorsed By Four More Honolulu City Council Members and wants to use CARES Act, HEROES Act for the rail project just pisses me off more

Kau and Rick  :thumbsup:

Good point.  How can Honolulu / Hawaii continue building a MASS TRANSIT system when the COVID-19 virus makes these trains a veritable death trap?

If we can't go to work, school or fly without all kinds of isolation and quarantine procedures, it's logical that the rail is just another pandemic waiting to happen.

Scrap the project, and use the money for something other than 5 new public relations employees costing us over $600K/yr.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

omnigun

Re: Hawaii politics
« Reply #10 on: October 09, 2020, 03:03:20 PM »
Good point.  How can Honolulu / Hawaii continue building a MASS TRANSIT system when the COVID-19 virus makes these trains a veritable death trap?

If we can't go to work, school or fly without all kinds of isolation and quarantine procedures, it's logical that the rail is just another pandemic waiting to happen.

Scrap the project, and use the money for something other than 5 new public relations employees costing us over $600K/yr.

Because Rail is good  :geekdanc:  Oahu can not expand without public transport,  we cant fit more people and more cars on our current transport systems.  Its not economical.  Not good for the environment and climate change. 

QUIETShooter

Re: Hawaii politics
« Reply #11 on: October 09, 2020, 03:10:48 PM »
I'm gonna go off topic here but I don't want to start a new thread just to say:

The RAIL project is the worst, money wasting, bullshit endeavor ever taken on in Hawaii.

The huge majority of people in Hawaii is saying to themselves "I'm not gonna use it.....let the other fuckers use it."

I think the only ones that wanted this damn thing so badly were the construction unions...... :grrr:
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Hawaii politics
« Reply #12 on: October 09, 2020, 03:19:48 PM »
I'm gonna go off topic here but I don't want to start a new thread just to say:

The RAIL project is the worst, money wasting, bullshit endeavor ever taken on in Hawaii.

The huge majority of people in Hawaii is saying to themselves "I'm not gonna use it.....let the other fuckers use it."

I think the only ones that wanted this damn thing so badly were the construction unions...... :grrr:

That, and the people in the inside of the planning who went around buying up land, who then sold that land to the state for the rail at multiples over fair market value.

There's an investigation supposedly going on about that.  I predict nothing will ever happen to those people.  They're insiders.

The project is costly several times what the people approving it were briefed.  It's taking so long, any cars that were going to be replaced by rail riders have been completely negated by population growth in non-rail-served areas.

Simply arguing for mass transit will not help solve any climate change or other problems.  Rail doesn't go everywhere.  People will be forced to drive or take buses to and from home, work shopping, etc. and the stations. 

We would have been better served by building bus "flyovers."  Basically elevated roads that replace the zipper lanes and connect areas with the most people going to and from there. 

Rail runs on HECO power, generated by burning mostly oil.

Rail fixes no actual problems.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Inspector

Re: Hawaii politics
« Reply #13 on: October 09, 2020, 03:30:38 PM »
     Watched the debates last night and to me the "preference's" were obvious.
If you watched, you also may have noticed that  the audio and visual quality of the more "right" leaning or newcomer candidates was much crappier than the "left".
    Noticed it on the very first debate and thought "meh poor connection" but dismissed that thought after 2 hrs of the same.
Another one had split screen when preferred spoke apparently unbeknownst to other candidate but not vice versa.
Another had "eye catching" tool bar pop up on non-preferred's discussion

Amamiya clear pic and sound, Blangiardi fuzzy and broken audio.
Steve Alm  clear pic and sound Megan Kau  broken audio.
Marzo and Roth the same.

    Was pretty F'n blatant if you ask me.  :grrr:
If anything it tells you who NOT t vote for.  ;)
I knew something was amiss when I saw the fly on Pence’s head holding an Antifa Flag!  :rofl:
SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Hawaii politics
« Reply #14 on: October 09, 2020, 03:32:49 PM »
I knew something was amiss when I saw the fly on Pence’s head holding an Antifa Flag!  :rofl:

It was a DNC "bug", meant to distract him.

As usual, it only distracted the media.   :rofl:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Inspector

Re: Hawaii politics
« Reply #15 on: October 09, 2020, 03:44:31 PM »
It was a DNC "bug", meant to distract him.

As usual, it only distracted the media.   :rofl:
I read somewhere that a news anchor said the fly was the mark of the devil.  :wtf:
SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

omnigun

Re: Hawaii politics
« Reply #16 on: October 09, 2020, 03:49:08 PM »
That, and the people in the inside of the planning who went around buying up land, who then sold that land to the state for the rail at multiples over fair market value.

There's an investigation supposedly going on about that.  I predict nothing will ever happen to those people.  They're insiders.

The project is costly several times what the people approving it were briefed.  It's taking so long, any cars that were going to be replaced by rail riders have been completely negated by population growth in non-rail-served areas.

Simply arguing for mass transit will not help solve any climate change or other problems.  Rail doesn't go everywhere.  People will be forced to drive or take buses to and from home, work shopping, etc. and the stations. 

We would have been better served by building bus "flyovers."  Basically elevated roads that replace the zipper lanes and connect areas with the most people going to and from there. 

Rail runs on HECO power, generated by burning mostly oil.

Rail fixes no actual problems.

If you cant see how 100 people in a rail cart uses less oil and gas than 50-100 cars, there's no helping you.   Just go back to making shit up and calling people names.  You are good at that.

drck1000

Re: Hawaii politics
« Reply #17 on: October 09, 2020, 04:06:15 PM »
If you cant see how 100 people in a rail cart uses less oil and gas than 50-100 cars, there's no helping you.   Just go back to making shit up and calling people names.  You are good at that.
Ok transportation engineer.  Just how much oil and gas does it take to operate the rail cars, stations, maintenance yards, park and rides, etc?

What about the traffic studies on how folks will actually get to the rail stations?

Full disclosure, while the rail itself and the stations are not my projects, the PC maintenance complex is one of my former projects.  So you want to talk facts, or tangible if you want. . .

No jumping on Google. . .

Hint: You won't find it there anyways. . .

drck1000

Re: Hawaii politics
« Reply #18 on: October 09, 2020, 04:09:57 PM »
I'm gonna go off topic here but I don't want to start a new thread just to say:

The RAIL project is the worst, money wasting, bullshit endeavor ever taken on in Hawaii.

The huge majority of people in Hawaii is saying to themselves "I'm not gonna use it.....let the other fuckers use it."

I think the only ones that wanted this damn thing so badly were the construction unions...... :grrr:
I can't find it now, but there was a show about this "mysterious concrete structure" that appears to have been built, but never used.  It looked like the rail, except for a wall in the center instead of the sides.  They had theories about why it was never used.  I forget.  Anyways, my first thought was "that show is gonna on the "Hawaiian rail" in 100 years".  People scratching their heads on why it was built and never used.   :rofl:

omnigun

Re: Hawaii politics
« Reply #19 on: October 09, 2020, 04:10:03 PM »
Ok transportation engineer.  Just how much oil and gas does it take to operate the rail cars, stations, maintenance yards, park and rides, etc?

What about the traffic studies on how folks will actually get to the rail stations?

Full disclosure, while the rail itself and the stations are not my projects, the PC maintenance complex is one of my former projects.  So you want to talk facts, or tangible if you want. . .

No jumping on Google. . .

Hint: You won't find it there anyways. . .

You got me I wouldn't be able to answer that without google.  But I do know mass transit in general is more efficient than cars.  There are studies for this.