"Crazy" is continuing to listen to an information source that constantly gets caught lying and censors everyone who disagrees with them. Those gaps get filled in one way or another.

Isn't it along the lines of doing the same thing and expecting different results but that's just what I know.

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bullsh*t
you were wrong in this thread when you said you quoted HB exactly except for the last sentence and won't admit it

Are you blind? 

Here is the whole thing. 

I copied everything but your remark on how to watch for that conspiracy.   And part of the first sentence, my bad on that.  But still doesn't change the context.

Just saying the popular media is saying "x"  doesn't not make it your own statement.   People give me shit for saying the consensus or the "media" said the elections didn't have mass fraud or masks or many other topics.  No one here is hypocritical right?

Isn't it along the lines of doing the same thing and expecting different results but that's just what I know.

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Insanity is the "inherently correct" term. . . 

Self-anointed hero crusader for the truth and against "echo chamber".  Thing is, he goes after folks on their statements based on his beliefs.  Calling people out for no "tangible" proof when he 1) doesn't even read examples given fully and 2) doesn't provide proof for his assertions, all while believing he's on some sort of moral peak and looking down on everyone else. 

I actually see his point in some cases, but the way he goes about it is maddening and 

When you get attacked so often for your beliefs you start to not care about "attacking" them for theirs.  Its a vicious cycle.  I tried to be civil,  but with many users ganging up and devolving to name calling and weird assertions I have given up. Many believe they are all the moral high ground aka religion, abortion, their own interpretation of the constitution etc.  Why can't I?   Perhaps I should try and be civil and ignore it all but everyone deserves a little of their own medicine once in a while.

When you get attacked so often for your beliefs you start to not care about "attacking" them for theirs.  Its a vicious cycle.  I tried to be civil,  but with many users ganging up and devolving to name calling and weird assertions I have given up. Many believe they are all the moral high ground aka religion, abortion, their own interpretation of the constitution etc.  Why can't I?   Perhaps I should try and be civil and ignore it all but everyone deserves a little of their own medicine once in a while.

you lack self awareness

THE VIRUS!!! Safety Cult in action. Who benefits from this type of action? What a total crock of shit. Disgusting. Appalling. Criminal.



One minute video embedded in tweet. Don't watch if you have a parent and don't want to be outraged.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1335605294827778048

I can't recall if I've posted this link on this thread or not. It's a statistical analysis of the costs and benefits of the "mitigation measures" imposed by THE VIRUS!!! Safety Cult. It's somewhat detailed in the math, but worth the read if you are interested in that sort of thing (facts).

COVID-19 Lockdowns Over 10 Times More Deadly Than Pandemic Itself

https://www.revolver.news/2020/08/study-covid-19-lockdowns-deadlier-than-pandemic-itself/

Up until this point there had been no simple, rigorous analysis that accurately and definitively conveys the true costs of the COVID-19 lockdowns. Accordingly, Revolver News set out to commission a study to do precisely that: to finally quantify the net damage of the lockdowns in terms of a metric known as “life-years.” Simply put, we have drawn upon existing economic studies on the health effects of unemployment to calculate an estimate of how many years of life will have been lost due to the lockdowns in the United States, and have weighed this against an estimate of how many years of life will have been saved by the lockdowns. The results are nothing short of staggering, and suggest that the lockdowns will end up costing Americans over 10 times as many years of life as they will save from the virus itself.

The COVID-19 lockdown measures that Americans have had to endure for the greater part of 2020 represent one of the most dramatic, consequential, and damaging policy measures undertaken in this nation’s history. For the first time in its history, America has experienced a situation so crippling and perilous that long term financial and social stability have been legitimately threatened.

Theres a fine line between speculation and fiction.  I don't care if you are the president I will call anyone out if they say some crazy conspiracy.   I am not trying to insult anyone on purpose, but I refuse to just keep quiet.  Imagine if i wrote aliens gave us covid to weaken our social structure to take over the world.  What people would say to me.  Also facts change or are re interpreted.   I am one of the few that admits when they charge and I am wrong.  People say media is dishonest and then belive their skewed media. That's the pot calling the kettle black. Just because fox or CNN are mainstream doesn't make them false. Many sources posted here are just the right version of MSN.  People search for news that reinforces your beliefs.  Though we are all guilty of that including myself.

Who is more foolish, the fool or the one that follows the fool.

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Insanity is the "inherently correct" term. . . 

Once again...

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When you get attacked so often for your beliefs you start to not care about "attacking" them for theirs.  Its a vicious cycle.  I tried to be civil,  but with many users ganging up and devolving to name calling and weird assertions I have given up. Many believe they are all the moral high ground aka religion, abortion, their own interpretation of the constitution etc.  Why can't I?   Perhaps I should try and be civil and ignore it all but everyone deserves a little of their own medicine once in a while.

You done being a victim?  You state a point, be prepared to back it up.  Simple as that. 

You tried to be civil?  I've seen you do the same things you're commenting about (aka whinging).  You should really take a look at how you "present" your points. . .

Who is more foolish, the fool or the one that follows the fool.

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Ok Obi Wan Aletheuo 

    I have an elderly (80+) Dr. friend who is at home.
Known this strong, wise, hard business man for over 30 years.

    His children and grand children follow an EXTREMELY STRICT protocol when visiting him as well as in their daily lives to keep him "safe".
Masks at all times, even at home,  physical distancing, hand sanitizer at the entrance of all homes, no physical contact,  etc....
   
    Last month when one of his grand daughters arrived for a visit, he got up, removed his mask and hugged her.
Then this man, one of the mentally strongest I've known in my life broke down in tears upon making physical contact with another human being, something that has not happened in months. 
Tell me the cure is not worse than the disease.   

    I have an elderly (80+) Dr. friend who is at home.
Known this strong, wise, hard business man for over 30 years.

    His children and grand children follow an EXTREMELY STRICT protocol when visiting him as well as in their daily lives to keep him "safe".
Masks at all times, even at home,  physical distancing, hand sanitizer at the entrance of all homes, no physical contact,  etc....
   
    Last month when one of his grand daughters arrived for a visit, he got up, removed his mask and hugged her.
Then this man, one of the mentally strongest I've known in my life broke down in tears upon making physical contact with another human being, something that has not happened in months. 
Tell me the cure is not worse than the disease.   

Mental health is certainly an aspect that has "suffered" recently.  There are many facts of humanity and physical health is just one. 

Similar thinking to cancer.  Some rather enjoy their quality of life and not endure the treatment. 

Ok Obi Wan Aletheuo 

Trying to get to Yoda status!

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    I have an elderly (80+) Dr. friend who is at home.
Known this strong, wise, hard business man for over 30 years.

    His children and grand children follow an EXTREMELY STRICT protocol when visiting him as well as in their daily lives to keep him "safe".
Masks at all times, even at home,  physical distancing, hand sanitizer at the entrance of all homes, no physical contact,  etc....
   
    Last month when one of his grand daughters arrived for a visit, he got up, removed his mask and hugged her.
Then this man, one of the mentally strongest I've known in my life broke down in tears upon making physical contact with another human being, something that has not happened in months. 

Tell me the cure is not worse than the disease.   

The cure is not worse than the disease.

See, I can lie and/or be totally ignorant just like my mentors Ige, Green, Lyin' Harry, Fauci, Birx, Redfield, China Bidet, all the Democrat lockdown governors, et al.

They're all a bunch of fucking criminals and should be imprisoned. People have lost things on all levels (physical, mental, emotional, etc.) that they will never recover. For no reason. Criminal.

Trying to get to Yoda status!

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Strive to be, you will

When you get attacked so often for your beliefs you start to not care about "attacking" them for theirs.  Its a vicious cycle.  I tried to be civil,  but with many users ganging up and devolving to name calling and weird assertions I have given up. Many believe they are all the moral high ground aka religion, abortion, their own interpretation of the constitution etc.  Why can't I?   Perhaps I should try and be civil and ignore it all but everyone deserves a little of their own medicine once in a while.

They have a saying, if you're at a bar and 5 people tell you you're drunk, you better not drive home. You do have your own beliefs, but some of them can be not so good.  So people here are trying to show you a better way and you don't want to believe it and then are hypocritical when trying to explain yourself.  Like you mentioned you don't like big government involvement, but yet forced vaxxx is OK.  Or climate change being a problem when it isn't.  The earths temp increasing half a degree in 100 years is not a problem.  Just to name a few things.

For many topics, there often is more than 1 side to be from, or pick from multiple sides.  You don't have to be just DNC or GOP thought. 

It's almost like trying to show a Moms Demand Action member that owing an "assault rifle" OK because all rifle type deaths combined were about 600 compared to handgun deaths which were in the thousands.  Then the MDA member argues with baseless info from CNN or everytown stats.

The cure is not worse than the disease.

See, I can lie and/or be totally ignorant just like my mentors Ige, Green, Lyin' Harry, Fauci, Birx, Redfield, China Bidet, all the Democrat lockdown governors, et al.

They're all a bunch of fucking criminals and should be imprisoned. People have lost things on all levels (physical, mental, emotional, etc.) that they will never recover. For no reason. Criminal.

I find myself lucky.  I'm younger and have different outlets to keep entertained.  Xbox, internet, cats, wife, etc...I can't imagine what it's like for a grandpa to stay isolated from contact from family and friends for months.  The only thing to look forward to is grocery shopping, that's if they are able to leave. I know a few who's family drops off supplies to their front door.

Mental health is certainly an aspect that has "suffered" recently.  There are many facts of humanity and physical health is just one. 

Similar thinking to cancer.  Some rather enjoy their quality of life and not endure the treatment. 

But to embrace that view one has to give credence to the idea that humans have autonomy and freedom of choice to make such decisions for themselves, even if it means "other people" (including government hacks) disagree with their decisions.

That cannot be tolerated by the socialist/communist statist fascists who know what is best for every individual, and in "service" to the entire community will impose that tyrannical diktat upon every individual. THE VIRUS!!! Safety Cult is just another step in that imposition of total control.

    I have an elderly (80+) Dr. friend who is at home.
Known this strong, wise, hard business man for over 30 years.

    His children and grand children follow an EXTREMELY STRICT protocol when visiting him as well as in their daily lives to keep him "safe".
Masks at all times, even at home,  physical distancing, hand sanitizer at the entrance of all homes, no physical contact,  etc....
   
    Last month when one of his grand daughters arrived for a visit, he got up, removed his mask and hugged her.
Then this man, one of the mentally strongest I've known in my life broke down in tears upon making physical contact with another human being, something that has not happened in months. 
Tell me the cure is not worse than the disease.   

Well, my heart goes out to your friend. I believe that we are designed for interaction and belonging. I've felt the same way when I zoomed with my grandkids in Minnesota. Its been years since I've seen them and was due to visiting but who knows when that will be possible. My prayers go out for him and us.

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