The COVID Cult (Read 1796205 times)

punaperson

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #2860 on: March 29, 2021, 06:01:16 PM »

Jl808

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #2861 on: March 29, 2021, 07:17:23 PM »
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/03/exclusive-per-cdc-data-nearly-twice-many-vaccine-related-deaths-far-2021-1755-vaccine-deaths-past-decade-994/

According to CDC data, there have been 2x more vaccine related deaths in this last 3 months compared to the last 10 years!!!!
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robtmc

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #2862 on: March 29, 2021, 07:44:20 PM »
I had to laugh Saturday (the usual sign waving day) on Queen K  in Kona.

The large group this time was anti-vaccine.

What was curious, by appearances, they were all middle to older age white people, they looked to be the same one that were so virulently anti-Trump.

The sign that was really great was something like "Testing time for a new vaccine is 8+ years average"
So, what was the message this old guy was sending?   
To hell with anyone that wants some possible protection, and all should wait and risk getting the virus for 8 years?
From his appearance, almost certainly a Trump hater, and likely blamed him for THE VIRUS !!!
I went by, quite confused by these people and what they were trying to sell.

Ultimately, like all liberals, dismissed them as unworthy.

changemyoil66

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #2863 on: March 29, 2021, 08:06:37 PM »
I have to pay for my vaxx via paypal.

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punaperson

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #2864 on: March 29, 2021, 08:39:48 PM »
Thankfully there is at least one state leader who knows the science, follows the science, and acts on the science. Of course this does those of us in Hawaii absolutely no good at all as we have the exact opposite running this place: SAFETY CULT moronic imbeciles (aka "Democrats") whose lust for power and total disrespect for, and hatred of, individual liberty is the hallmark of their agenda and very existence. To them I say FOAD.



https://nbc-2.com/news/state/2021/03/29/gov-desantis-to-take-executive-action-this-week-against-vaccine-passports/

Gov. DeSantis to take executive action this week against vaccine passports

TALLAHASSEE, Fla. – Gov. DeSantis said he will be taking executive action against vaccine passports this week.

“It’s completely unacceptable for either the government or the private sector to impose upon you the requirement that you show proof of vaccine, just simply to participate in normal society,” DeSantis said at a news conference in Tallahassee on Monday.

Essentially, a ‘vaccine passport’ refers to documents, either paper or digital, that provide health information such as whether someone has received the COVID-19 vaccine. Presenting that information will, in turn, allow the vaccinated person to travel and attend events. The idea of everyone having a vaccine passport has garnered mainstream attention in the past few months as vaccines roll out and travel companies eye future restoration.

The governor said vaccine passports aren’t welcome in the State of Florida, noting how they violate privacy and individual liberties.

“You’re going to do this and what, give all this information to some big corporation? You want the fox to guard the hen house? I mean give me a break,” he said.

DeSantis has previously made his position on the issue clear. At a March 19 round table event, medical experts backed up DeSantis’ sentiments, saying vaccine passports could erode public trust and harm minority and working class communities.

“So the zoom class or the lap top class have protected themselves through the lockdowns, while we have thrown the working class under the bus,” said Dr. Martin Kulldorff, who is a Professor at Harvard Medical School.. “Now to say those workers who had an infection — ‘they cannot travel.’ But the zoom class who had the vaccine — they can. That’s just another assault on workers in this country.”

DeSantis said he will be in touch with the legislature to begin working on an emergency order.

“I think that would provide a lot of certainty for a lot of people,” he said.

13 minute video of the governor making the above remarks, and more:



macsak

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #2865 on: March 29, 2021, 08:50:22 PM »

punaperson

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #2866 on: March 29, 2021, 09:03:45 PM »
Trump finally states the long known truth about Fauci and Birx... too bad he didn't do enough about it when it mattered.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/03/president-trump-blasts-self-promoters-birx-fauci/

President Trump Blasts “Self-Promoters” Birx and Fauci

President Trump issued a statement Monday evening blasting Dr. Deborah Birx and Dr. Anthony Fauci as “self-promoters” over comments made in interviews with CNN that aired Sunday.

– March 29, 2021 –

Statement by Donald J. Trump, 45th President of the United States of America

Based on their interviews, I felt it was time to speak up about Dr. Fauci and Dr. Birx, two self-promoters trying to reinvent history to cover for their bad instincts and faulty recommendations, which I fortunately almost always overturned. They had bad policy decisions that would have left our country open to China and others, closed to reopening our economy, and years away from an approved vaccine—putting millions of lives at risk.

We developed American vaccines by an American President in record time, nine months, which is saving the entire world. We bought billions of dollars of these vaccines on a calculated bet that they would work, perhaps the most important bet in the history of the world. Dr. Fauci and Dr. Birx moved far too slowly, and if it were up to them we’d currently be locked in our basements as our country suffered through a financial depression. Families, and children in particular, would be suffering the mental strains of this disaster like never before.

In a fake interview last night on CNN, Dr. Fauci, who said he was an athlete in college but couldn’t throw a baseball even close to home plate, it was a “roller,” tried to take credit for the vaccine, when in fact he said it would take three to five years, and probably longer, to have it approved. Dr. Fauci was incapable of pressing the FDA to move it through faster. I was the one to get it done, and even the fake news media knows and reports this.

Dr. Fauci is also the king of “flip-flops” and moving the goalposts to make himself look as good as possible. He fought me so hard because he wanted to keep our country open to countries like China. I closed it against his strong recommendation, which saved many lives. Dr. Fauci also said we didn’t need to wear masks, then a few months later he said we needed to wear masks, and now, two or three of them. Fauci spent U.S. money on the Wuhan lab in China—and we now know how that worked out.

Dr. Birx is a proven liar with very little credibility left. Many of her recommendations were viewed as “pseudo-science,” and Dr. Fauci would always talk negatively about her and, in fact, would ask not to be in the same room with her. The States who followed her lead, like California, had worse outcomes on Covid, and ruined the lives of countless children because they couldn’t go to school, ruined many businesses, and an untold number of Americans who were killed by the lockdowns themselves. Dr. Birx was a terrible medical advisor, which is why I seldom followed her advice. Her motto should be “Do as I say, not as I do.” Who can forget when Dr. Birx gave a huge mandate to the people of our Nation to not travel, and then traveled a great distance to see her family for Thanksgiving—only to have them call the police and turn her in? She then, embarrassingly for her, resigned.

Finally, Dr. Birx says she can’t hear very well, but I can. There was no “very difficult” phone call, other than Dr. Birx’s policies that would have led us directly into a COVID caused depression. She was a very negative voice who didn’t have the right answers. Time has proven me correct. I only kept Dr. Fauci and Dr. Birx on because they worked for the U.S. government for so long—they are like a bad habit!

omnigun

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #2867 on: March 29, 2021, 09:26:36 PM »

macsak

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #2868 on: March 29, 2021, 09:32:45 PM »
ok

 :stopjack:

no more discussion of "rights"
from BOTH sides...

hvybarrels

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #2869 on: March 29, 2021, 09:39:19 PM »
Oh Dr. Z

He is so good at soothingly talking people into their own slavery

Pretending to be offended does not make you a good person.

Glasser

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #2870 on: March 29, 2021, 09:41:07 PM »
Trump finally states the long known truth about Fauci and Birx... too bad he didn't do enough about it when it mattered.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/03/president-trump-blasts-self-promoters-birx-fauci/

President Trump Blasts “Self-Promoters” Birx and Fauci

President Trump issued a statement Monday evening blasting Dr. Deborah Birx and Dr. Anthony Fauci as “self-promoters” over comments made in interviews with CNN that aired Sunday.

– March 29, 2021 –

Statement by Donald J. Trump, 45th President of the United States of America

Based on their interviews, I felt it was time to speak up about Dr. Fauci and Dr. Birx, two self-promoters trying to reinvent history to cover for their bad instincts and faulty recommendations, which I fortunately almost always overturned. They had bad policy decisions that would have left our country open to China and others, closed to reopening our economy, and years away from an approved vaccine—putting millions of lives at risk.

We developed American vaccines by an American President in record time, nine months, which is saving the entire world. We bought billions of dollars of these vaccines on a calculated bet that they would work, perhaps the most important bet in the history of the world. Dr. Fauci and Dr. Birx moved far too slowly, and if it were up to them we’d currently be locked in our basements as our country suffered through a financial depression. Families, and children in particular, would be suffering the mental strains of this disaster like never before.

In a fake interview last night on CNN, Dr. Fauci, who said he was an athlete in college but couldn’t throw a baseball even close to home plate, it was a “roller,” tried to take credit for the vaccine, when in fact he said it would take three to five years, and probably longer, to have it approved. Dr. Fauci was incapable of pressing the FDA to move it through faster. I was the one to get it done, and even the fake news media knows and reports this.

Dr. Fauci is also the king of “flip-flops” and moving the goalposts to make himself look as good as possible. He fought me so hard because he wanted to keep our country open to countries like China. I closed it against his strong recommendation, which saved many lives. Dr. Fauci also said we didn’t need to wear masks, then a few months later he said we needed to wear masks, and now, two or three of them. Fauci spent U.S. money on the Wuhan lab in China—and we now know how that worked out.

Dr. Birx is a proven liar with very little credibility left. Many of her recommendations were viewed as “pseudo-science,” and Dr. Fauci would always talk negatively about her and, in fact, would ask not to be in the same room with her. The States who followed her lead, like California, had worse outcomes on Covid, and ruined the lives of countless children because they couldn’t go to school, ruined many businesses, and an untold number of Americans who were killed by the lockdowns themselves. Dr. Birx was a terrible medical advisor, which is why I seldom followed her advice. Her motto should be “Do as I say, not as I do.” Who can forget when Dr. Birx gave a huge mandate to the people of our Nation to not travel, and then traveled a great distance to see her family for Thanksgiving—only to have them call the police and turn her in? She then, embarrassingly for her, resigned.

Finally, Dr. Birx says she can’t hear very well, but I can. There was no “very difficult” phone call, other than Dr. Birx’s policies that would have led us directly into a COVID caused depression. She was a very negative voice who didn’t have the right answers. Time has proven me correct. I only kept Dr. Fauci and Dr. Birx on because they worked for the U.S. government for so long—they are like a bad habit!


Yet another of a hundred thousand examples of Government Bureaucrats being really bad at the basic responsibilities of the positions they hold. I am not a Tulsi fan, but I think she nailed it on the head when she said going to DC and dealing with the government was like going back to highschool and dealing with children and their cliques. The Federal government is just an overblown version of a Student Body Government. Why we allow these self important morons to dictate policy makes my brain hurt.

 I think I remember someone earlier in this thread saying that these are the folks who should be in charge of what civil rights we are allowed to have.

punaperson

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #2871 on: March 29, 2021, 10:07:05 PM »
I'm guessing this may catch on with the younger segment, but not likely with the geezers... but who knows?

https://babylonbee.com/news/for-convenience-vaccine-passport-can-now-be-tattooed-on-your-hand-or-forehead/

For Convenience, Vaccine Passport Can Now Be Tattooed On Your Hand Or Forehead



U.S.—The Biden Administration is hard at work putting together a vaccine passport program that will help society more effectively separate the good vaccinated people from the bad, gross, scary unvaccinated ones. To make things super convenient, vaccinated individuals will be given the opportunity to tattoo the passport's 2D barcode on their hand or forehead.

"What a great idea!" said Jibby Tillygoober, local vaccinated man. "Now everyone will know I'm completely safe to be around and it's virtually impossible for me to get them sick! Wow! I'm such a good person!"

Those who refuse the vaccine and passport will be prohibited from buying or selling anything. They will also be barred from select businesses such as restaurants, planes, gas stations, banks, grocery stores, and most Chuck E. Cheese locations. They will also be cast out of the city limits and stoned to death, and their homes and crops burned to the ground for good measure.

In spite of some naysayers, Biden defended the vaccine passport program, saying: "Now to go around... well, anyway, uh-- real simple for the kiddos in the, uh, how-- ahhh, I shouldn't say that. So, gotta go now!"

Inspector

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #2872 on: March 30, 2021, 06:25:35 AM »
Fearmongering AP Reporter Urges Biden, Psaki to Thwart State Reopenings

https://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=40708.msg370103#msg370103

Cross posting from the Media Lies Thread
SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

Inspector

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #2873 on: March 30, 2021, 06:27:14 AM »
ABC Stands With Bogus WHO Report on COVID Origins, NBC Finds Bats in Lab

https://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=40708.msg370105#msg370105

Cross posting from the Media Lies Thread
SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

punaperson

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #2874 on: March 30, 2021, 06:31:17 AM »
From Tom Woods today, commenting on DeSantis position on "vaccine passports":

The Orwellian proposals keep piling up, and Ron DeSantis continues to be a hero.

When Joe Biden hinted weeks ago at the possibility of further lockdowns, DeSantis spoke to the press and said that that would absolutely not be happening in Florida.

When it sounded as if Biden might restrict travel to Florida, DeSantis pledged to resist.

Oh, and by the way: the anti-Florida ghouls are reduced to claiming that DeSantis must be suppressing Florida's true numbers.

Ha, yeah, that's plausible! So this theory is that the hospitals in Florida are actually bursting at the seams with COVID patients, but we can't know that because the official numbers aren't reliable?

I see. So every single hospital is in on the grand conspiracy, too? Not even one bit of anecdotal evidence of hospital overflow has managed to escape a single hospital?

It's almost sad what the Doomers are reduced to.

In a way it's encouraging, though: these people cannot explain Florida's numbers without dreaming up wild conspiracies. That means they're implicitly admitting that Florida's numbers are great. Otherwise they wouldn't need to be explained away.

Well, now DeSantis is resisting vaccine passports -- the Orwellian idea proposed by whoever is running Joe Biden -- as well.

“It’s completely unacceptable," he said. "You want to go to a movie theater, should you have to show that? No. You want to go to a game, [or] a theme park? No. So we’re not supportive of that.”

He is pledging to take executive action, as early as today.

As Jeff Deist put it, "No private business or industry would require vaccine passports without state sanction and a strong assist from lapdog media to overcome the terrible PR optics. It's a sick and crazy idea."

Meanwhile, check out media coverage of Florida. The New York Times just ran an article about rising "cases" in one of the four states in this chart. Which one do you suppose it was?

(Dark blue is New York, light blue is New Jersey, green is Michigan, and pink is Florida.)



(Source: Financial Times analysis of data from the Johns Hopkins CSSE.)

Yes, they looked at those lines and decided to write an article about Florida's "rising cases."

Meanwhile, back on this planet, here's a comparison they won't make (but thanks to @yinonw on Twitter for making it)

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Inspector

SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

punaperson

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #2876 on: March 30, 2021, 07:37:20 AM »
Speaking truth to power, even by an esteemed Harvard Medical School physician, results in total censorship by the ruling elite. Can't have any facts getting out while they propagandize "following the science".

https://www.aier.org/article/twitter-censors-famed-epidemiologist-martin-kulldorff/

Twitter Censors Famed Epidemiologist Martin Kulldorff

“If there ever was a troubling sign of the power and arrogance of big tech, of which I’ve long been a defender, this new action is it. Dr. Kulldorff has been a brave proponent of traditional public health in the midst of an unprecedented and very obviously failed policy of lockdowns. He has been a voice of clarity, reason, calm, and science. That Twitter would choose to use its power over public debate to silence his insights should be of profound concern to everyone concerned about the use of science in the public interest.”

aletheuo137

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #2877 on: March 30, 2021, 07:56:57 AM »
https://parler.com/post/d9dcb56d-95ad-480e-a147-0dd24028c970

Video speaks for itself!

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aletheuo137

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #2878 on: March 30, 2021, 08:13:05 AM »
“Today Is Worse”- 92- Year- Old Holocaust Survivor Spoke During An Anti-lockdown Protest

https://conservativesarmy.com/today-is-worse-92-year-old-holocaust-survivor-spoke-during-an-anti-lockdown-protest/


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groveler

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #2879 on: March 30, 2021, 08:13:15 AM »
Speaking truth to power, even by an esteemed Harvard Medical School physician, results in total censorship by the ruling elite. Can't have any facts getting out while they propagandize "following the science".

https://www.aier.org/article/twitter-censors-famed-epidemiologist-martin-kulldorff/

Twitter Censors Famed Epidemiologist Martin Kulldorff

“If there ever was a troubling sign of the power and arrogance of big tech, of which I’ve long been a defender, this new action is it. Dr. Kulldorff has been a brave proponent of traditional public health in the midst of an unprecedented and very obviously failed policy of lockdowns. He has been a voice of clarity, reason, calm, and science. That Twitter would choose to use its power over public debate to silence his insights should be of profound concern to everyone concerned about the use of science in the public interest.”
When I graduated with a BS in Computer Science 1990, about one quarter of the Computer scientists went to work at Microsoft( Microsoft and Boeing had helped out to set up the degree program).
I made a monetarily stupid decision to stay at Boeing rather than switching to Microsoft,  because the Culture at Microsoft just wasn't a good "fit" for me.
At the time Boeing's focus was making the best airplanes in the world,  Microsoft's was to constrain the software industry to it's control and Philosophy.
"Big Tech"  is a really phony name for very rich oligarchs, that have shut out competition.  Software types are notoriously  parochial.
Anybody questioning their code, language, operation systems, et al,  are to be purged.  That also extends to their social lives and politics.
They are religious in their fanaticism and it shows.
Technology will advance and in the future at an Exponential rate,  we are at just the beginning.  People cannot and will not adapt quickly.
This will be interesting.  Given the inherent evil nature of man, it will get messy.
I'll break out the beer and  :popcorn:,  standby and watch, from my compound.