COVID Vaccine in Hawaii (Read 28086 times)

Flapp_Jackson

Re: COVID Vaccine in Hawaii
« Reply #60 on: November 21, 2020, 05:03:13 PM »
I'm not about to search hundreds of pages to find one.   You got the same searching abilities

You can't figure out how the Search feature on this forum works? 

#LiterallyNoITskillz
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

aletheuo137

Re: COVID Vaccine in Hawaii
« Reply #61 on: November 21, 2020, 05:06:09 PM »
Democrats say stupid shit, nothing new.  Republicans said the same about Hillary.  Both sides have their stupid members.
Nazis said stupid s##t too till it became a reality

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Flapp_Jackson

Re: COVID Vaccine in Hawaii
« Reply #62 on: November 21, 2020, 05:10:40 PM »
Nazis said stupid s##t too till it became a reality

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Can't leave out Socialists -- of ALL varieties.

Communists
Democrats
Liberals
Democratic Socialists
Socialist Democrats
Progressives
Worker's party
Proletariat
Labor Unions
...
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

aletheuo137

Re: COVID Vaccine in Hawaii
« Reply #63 on: November 21, 2020, 06:10:17 PM »
Can't leave out Socialists -- of ALL varieties.

Communists
Democrats
Liberals
Democratic Socialists
Socialist Democrats
Progressives
Worker's party
Proletariat
Labor Unions
...
Maybe he should change his screen name to commigun

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punaperson

Re: COVID Vaccine in Hawaii
« Reply #64 on: November 21, 2020, 06:13:11 PM »
The vaccine aspect (per this thread) is only a portion, but an important one, in this article detailing how the whole "pandemic" fits into another "plan" in the works.

Given that Hawaii is run by a cabal of the worst and dimmest... these useful idiots no doubt, based on their current policies and statements, have similar intentions as outlined here.

[See the original article at the link for all embedded links to many references.]

Now Is The Time For Americans To Rebel Against Lockdowns, Mask Laws And Forced Vaccination

By Brandon Smith

November 20, 2020

https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/11/no_author/now-is-the-time-for-americans-to-rebel-against-lockdowns-mask-laws-and-forced-vaccination/

Excerpt:

With the presidential election highly contested and the mainstream media hyping the rising infection numbers, the public is now facing important questions regarding the future of the pandemic response. Some states have decided to unilaterally introduce “executive orders” to restrict citizen movements, business openings and public activities.

Anthony Fauci is on the news constantly, calling for families to cancel Thanksgiving and Christmas and telling Americans to just “do what we are told”. The media is generally trying to drum up fear in the minds of the populace and paint images of plague and death everywhere. If Biden does actually end up in the White House, a federalized and national high level lockdown is on the table starting in January.

In April of this year I published an article titled ‘Waves Of Mutilation: Medical Tyranny And The Cashless Society’, which outlined a social engineering model put forward by globalists at MIT and the Imperial College of London which I called “wave theory”. The model essentially works like this:

Governments must use the pandemic as a rationale for “waves” of restrictive lockdowns, followed by controlled re-openings of the economy and of normal human activity. Globalists claim that this will “slow” the spread of the coronavirus and save lives. However, they also openly admit that these cycles of closures and openings have other uses.

Over time, the citizenry becomes acclimated to governmental intrusion in their everyday lives, and they get used to the idea of bureaucracy telling them what they are not allowed to do when it comes to the simplest activities. The system thus bottlenecks all human interactions to the point that we are constantly asking for permission. We become slaves to the Covid response.

As globalist Gideon Lichfield from MIT stated in his article ‘We’re Not Going Back To Normal’:

“Ultimately, however, I predict that we’ll restore the ability to socialize safely by developing more sophisticated ways to identify who is a disease risk and who isn’t, and discriminating—legally—against those who are.

…one can imagine a world in which, to get on a flight, perhaps you’ll have to be signed up to a service that tracks your movements via your phone. The airline wouldn’t be able to see where you’d gone, but it would get an alert if you’d been close to known infected people or disease hot spots. There’d be similar requirements at the entrance to large venues, government buildings, or public transport hubs. There would be temperature scanners everywhere, and your workplace might demand you wear a monitor that tracks your temperature or other vital signs. Where nightclubs ask for proof of age, in future they might ask for proof of immunity—an identity card or some kind of digital verification via your phone, showing you’ve already recovered from or been vaccinated against the latest virus strains.”


Note that Lichfield suggested that in order to participate in the normal economy you might need to show verification that you have been “vaccinated against the latest virus strains”. In other words, the elites expect there to be many more viral events or mutations AFTER Covid 19 has run its course, and the restrictions and controls we see today are meant to continue, possibly FOREVER.

punaperson

Re: COVID Vaccine in Hawaii
« Reply #65 on: November 21, 2020, 06:19:29 PM »
I've blocked the resident moron who can't spell, construct grammatically correct sentences, and whose logical skills would earn him an F- in Logic 101.

But... will someone please inform me if he proffers an answer to my question of several days ago (since he never responded I assume, as usual, he has no actual fact- and reality-based answer):

[After he claimed vaccines have been proven "safe", etc.] If vaccine injury is "fake science" and believing in vaccine injury is "anti-science", why has the federal government, through the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program, paid out over $4 BILLION in personal injury claims since 1988?

 I guess he "forgot" to answer.

robtmc

Re: COVID Vaccine in Hawaii
« Reply #66 on: November 21, 2020, 06:49:40 PM »
I guess he "forgot" to answer.
Maybe his/her Gargle search on the iFag did not come up with a rebuttal?

Flapp_Jackson

Re: COVID Vaccine in Hawaii
« Reply #67 on: November 21, 2020, 07:13:56 PM »
I've blocked the resident moron who can't spell, construct grammatically correct sentences, and whose logical skills would earn him an F- in Logic 101.

But... will someone please inform me if he proffers an answer to my question of several days ago (since he never responded I assume, as usual, he has no actual fact- and reality-based answer):

[After he claimed vaccines have been proven "safe", etc.] If vaccine injury is "fake science" and believing in vaccine injury is "anti-science", why has the federal government, through the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program, paid out over $4 BILLION in personal injury claims since 1988?

 I guess he "forgot" to answer.

I notice he hasn't responded to my direct questions at all, and  I've given him plenty to respond to today.

He only responds to me when he wants to make HIS point, using mine as a springboard to go off on a tangent.  Such as, someone giving testimony about DIRECT EYE-WITNESSED FACTS is somehow as unreliable as someone CLAIMING THE MOON LANDING WAS STAGED.  Seriously?  One is an accusation under oath in a sworn affidavit presenting facts they directly observed, and the other is an unsupported CONCLUSION. which has been debunked 9 ways to Sunday.

How is that even pretending to be a serious argument?  Yet, the things he could try to answer on a more serious level using facts and sources he ignores completely.

Don't expect a serious response from him.  It's all about how we don't want to hear opposing opinions.  It's all on us to accept his view of reality as the truth.

I pray for him every night -- that he somehow walks in front of a large telecom dish and is forever unable to reproduce!   :rofl:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

aletheuo137

Re: COVID Vaccine in Hawaii
« Reply #68 on: November 21, 2020, 07:33:47 PM »
I notice he hasn't responded to my direct questions at all, and  I've given him plenty to respond to today.

He only responds to me when he wants to make HIS point, using mine as a springboard to go off on a tangent.  Such as, someone giving testimony about DIRECT EYE-WITNESSED FACTS is somehow as unreliable as someone CLAIMING THE MOON LANDING WAS STAGED.  Seriously?  One is an accusation under oath in a sworn affidavit presenting facts they directly observed, and the other is an unsupported CONCLUSION. which has been debunked 9 ways to Sunday.

How is that even pretending to be a serious argument?  Yet, the things he could try to answer on a more serious level using facts and sources he ignores completely.

Don't expect a serious response from him.  It's all about how we don't want to hear opposing opinions.  It's all on us to accept his view of reality as the truth.

I pray for him every night -- that he somehow walks in front of a large telecom dish and is forever unable to reproduce!   :rofl:
To your God or his?

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Flapp_Jackson

Re: COVID Vaccine in Hawaii
« Reply #69 on: November 21, 2020, 07:37:56 PM »
To your God or his?

There's only one. 

A rose by any other name ...   :thumbsup:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

changemyoil66

Re: COVID Vaccine in Hawaii
« Reply #70 on: November 21, 2020, 07:47:50 PM »
U guys should join the hawaii quarantine kapu breakers fb page. Super karen type people. Ratting out their neighbors, family, friends, and of course tourist all in the name of safety.

Basically if this were 1938 and they were germans, they would call the gestapo on their 20 year long neighbor who's a jew.

So far, not much chatter about the vaxxx yet. But im sure once it is available, they want some kind of ID that shows if you got the vaxxx or not. They did the same about tourist testing prior to arriving. How do they know who did and who didnt, so they can call the cops on someone who looks like a tourist.

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aletheuo137

Re: COVID Vaccine in Hawaii
« Reply #71 on: November 21, 2020, 07:49:12 PM »
There's only one. 

A rose by any other name ...   
You and I know that, I'm not sure if he does

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aletheuo137

Re: COVID Vaccine in Hawaii
« Reply #72 on: November 22, 2020, 07:31:29 AM »
His worship is of his science and intelligence.

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omnigun

Re: COVID Vaccine in Hawaii
« Reply #73 on: November 22, 2020, 08:39:22 AM »
I didn't respond because I don't have enough bandwidth to argue with everyone on vaccines along with everything else.  And I highly doubt I will be able to convince anyone here so it will be arguing with a wall at this point.
It appears all your money is on the side effects to a few people.  As with everything in life nothing is 100%.  But there comes a point of greater good and a worth while risk.  Car accident payouts is even larger yet most of us all use the roads to travel. 

https://www.hrsa.gov/vaccine-compensation/data/index.html

drck1000

Re: COVID Vaccine in Hawaii
« Reply #74 on: November 22, 2020, 09:44:50 AM »
you made the statement ,dumbass
you can't just make up shit, and not back it up
ok, now we are sure how you roll, if it was still in question

here's why you cannot find it
because no one here said it was a "great way" to get trump elected
everyone used it as an example of what could happen if there was a contested election
because it's in the actual rules to elect a president
smh
Nah. He’s the victim, the lone advocate for freedom.

One day he’ll realize he’s not being attacked for just views. It’s because he runs his mouth and says stuff he won’t backup with anything more than his feelings or beliefs.

macsak

Re: COVID Vaccine in Hawaii
« Reply #75 on: November 22, 2020, 10:00:04 AM »
I didn't respond because I don't have enough bandwidth to argue with everyone on vaccines along with everything else.  And I highly doubt I will be able to convince anyone here so it will be arguing with a wall at this point.
It appears all your money is on the side effects to a few people.  As with everything in life nothing is 100%.  But there comes a point of greater good and a worth while risk.  Car accident payouts is even larger yet most of us all use the roads to travel. 

https://www.hrsa.gov/vaccine-compensation/data/index.html

aka
i didn't respond because i talk so much shit that i can't back up...

Flapp_Jackson

Re: COVID Vaccine in Hawaii
« Reply #76 on: November 22, 2020, 10:25:18 AM »
I didn't respond because I don't have enough bandwidth to argue with everyone on vaccines along with everything else.  And I highly doubt I will be able to convince anyone here so it will be arguing with a wall at this point.
It appears all your money is on the side effects to a few people.  As with everything in life nothing is 100%.  But there comes a point of greater good and a worth while risk.  Car accident payouts is even larger yet most of us all use the roads to travel. 

You mean, risks like opening up the businesses instead of never-ending lockdowns?  Death rates are in the 0%-3%, depending on age, health, etc.  Survival is almost 100% certain.

Some slim risks seem to be more accepted than others.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

drck1000

Re: COVID Vaccine in Hawaii
« Reply #77 on: November 22, 2020, 10:27:27 AM »
You mean, risks like opening up the businesses instead of never-ending lockdowns?  Death rates are in the 0%-3%, depending on age, health, etc.  Survival is almost 100% certain.

Some slim risks seem to be more accepted than others.
No. But he expects 100% tangible proof for stuff he doesn’t believe in.

punaperson

Re: COVID Vaccine in Hawaii
« Reply #78 on: November 22, 2020, 12:40:11 PM »
So the moron claims that $4 BILLION payouts from the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program went to "a few people"? What, a BILLION to each of 4 people, or a million each to 4,000 people? How many is "a few"? And what difference does it make how many people purportedly "benefit" if your child dies or is permanently seriously disabled?

Only an authoritarian fascist thinks that the liberties and freedoms of lawful citizens can be suspended or revoked or overwritten for the sake of some nebulous (and likely unproven or unprovable) "community benefit" (i.e. the "gun violence" "public health epidemic" requires that the right to keep and bear arms be suspended regarding certain classes or firearms, for instance, semi-automatic firearms or any but bolt action firearms, etc., etc., etc.).

macsak

Re: COVID Vaccine in Hawaii
« Reply #79 on: November 22, 2020, 01:02:56 PM »
No. But he expects 100% tangible proof for stuff he doesn’t believe in.

that's because-
what he believes in = "settled science"
and
what he doesn't believe in = "conspiracy theories"