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drck1000

Re: withdrawal from Afghanistan, bad idea?
« Reply #80 on: August 16, 2021, 09:09:44 AM »
This is a damn mess.  That said, many radio hosts/personalities quick to blame Trump.  That "Biden is new President and this transition isn't on him".  How's that narrative.   ::)

If folks in the US Embassy die (or have died), some might take a look a who was/is in office when that happens. . .
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Glasser

Re: withdrawal from Afghanistan, bad idea?
« Reply #81 on: August 16, 2021, 09:17:37 AM »
Does this level of dodging the obvious sound like anyone we know?

Biden's national security team rejects Kabul comparisons to Saigon and insist 'we've been using helicopters to get from the embassy to the airport for 20 years'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9898309/Biden-adviser-rejects-Kabul-comparisons-Saigon-says-weve-using-helicopters-years.html
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Glasser

Re: withdrawal from Afghanistan, bad idea?
« Reply #82 on: August 16, 2021, 09:27:22 AM »
https://abcnews.go.com/US/afghanistans-collapse-us-intelligence-wrong/story?id=79470553

numerous U.S. officials tell ABC News that the opposite was true, insisting that key intelligence assessments had consistently informed policymakers that the Taliban could overwhelm the country and take the capital within weeks

[U.S.] leaders were told by the military it would take no time at all for the Taliban to take everything," an anonymous U.S. intelligence official told ABC News. "No one listened."

Other intelligence sources said that Biden and his team of advisers had reached their decision about the U.S. military's withdrawal -- which was all but completed on July 4 -- based on a variety of factors that went beyond Kabul's fate.

A senior congressional official who asked not to be named in order to discuss sensitive briefings told ABC News that intelligence officers had warned the U.S. leaders about a swift and total victory by the fundamentalist Taliban militants

"The intelligence community assessment has always been accurate; they just disregarded it," the official told ABC News, speaking about the Biden administration.
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changemyoil66

Re: withdrawal from Afghanistan, bad idea?
« Reply #83 on: August 16, 2021, 09:43:08 AM »
Quote from: Glasser on August 16, 2021, 09:05:11 AM
Word around town is the Afghan Government stopped paying the Army and the Police, and the Afghan President fled the country with so many buckets of money he had to abandon most of it. Nice job.

Don't forget that money sent over to help gender studies. 
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omnigun

Re: withdrawal from Afghanistan, bad idea?
« Reply #84 on: August 16, 2021, 11:01:15 AM »
Quote from: Glasser on August 16, 2021, 09:05:11 AM
Word around town is the Afghan Government stopped paying the Army and the Police, and the Afghan President fled the country with so many buckets of money he had to abandon most of it. Nice job.

Got proof to backup this claim?
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Kuleana

Re: withdrawal from Afghanistan, bad idea?
« Reply #85 on: August 16, 2021, 11:18:39 AM »
Quote from: changemyoil66 on August 16, 2021, 08:45:29 AM
China going take over. Deal would be that they will stay out of A-stan's politics and lifestyle.  But allow China to harvest minerals and keep their workers safe.  In return they will pay Taliban or who ever is ruling A-stan.  China could care less if there's executions or stuff like that.  That is 1 thing they got going for them if they enter.
That is what sovereign neutral nations are suppose to behave to each other.

Do business straight-up and don't mess with any internal or domestic affairs.

China understands that, the current US empire does not.
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drck1000

Re: withdrawal from Afghanistan, bad idea?
« Reply #86 on: August 16, 2021, 11:22:25 AM »
Quote from: Kuleana on August 16, 2021, 11:18:39 AM
That is what sovereign neutral nations are suppose to behave to each other.

Do business straight-up and don't mess with any internal or domestic affairs.

China understands that, the current US empire does not.
UH, whut?  You have GOT to be kidding. . .
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Kuleana

Re: withdrawal from Afghanistan, bad idea?
« Reply #87 on: August 16, 2021, 11:23:54 AM »
Quote from: drck1000 on August 16, 2021, 11:22:25 AM
UH, whut?  You have GOT to be kidding. . .
What country is China interfering in the internal affairs with?
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Glasser

Re: withdrawal from Afghanistan, bad idea?
« Reply #88 on: August 16, 2021, 11:25:01 AM »
Quote from: Kuleana on August 16, 2021, 11:23:54 AM
What country is China interfering in the internal affairs with?

America comes to mind.
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drck1000

Re: withdrawal from Afghanistan, bad idea?
« Reply #89 on: August 16, 2021, 11:26:58 AM »
Quote from: Kuleana on August 16, 2021, 11:23:54 AM
What country is China interfering in the internal affairs with?
The list of countries China isn't meddling in would be shorter. 

I can't provide objective evidence, so I won't ask any of yours.  Not proven in court either.  That said, you're saying China would NOT interfere with internal affairs of other countries? 
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macsak

Re: withdrawal from Afghanistan, bad idea?
« Reply #90 on: August 16, 2021, 11:27:47 AM »
Quote from: Glasser on August 16, 2021, 09:05:11 AM
Word around town is the Afghan Government stopped paying the Army and the Police, and the Afghan President fled the country with so many buckets of money he had to abandon most of it. Nice job.

biden's speech last week he said that the US government was paying the Afghan military and police...
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drck1000

Re: withdrawal from Afghanistan, bad idea?
« Reply #91 on: August 16, 2021, 11:28:00 AM »
Quote from: Glasser on August 16, 2021, 11:25:01 AM
America comes to mind.
My SSN comes to mind. . .  ;D
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drck1000

Re: withdrawal from Afghanistan, bad idea?
« Reply #92 on: August 16, 2021, 11:28:43 AM »
Quote from: macsak on August 16, 2021, 11:27:47 AM
biden's speech last week he said that the US government was paying the Afghan military and police...
Gotta cover up Huntah's defense slush fund. . .
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macsak

Re: withdrawal from Afghanistan, bad idea?
« Reply #93 on: August 16, 2021, 11:29:38 AM »
Quote from: omnigun on August 16, 2021, 11:01:15 AM
Got proof to backup this claim?

focus
"word around town" means it's a story/rumor...
#3.7outofwhat
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Glasser

Re: withdrawal from Afghanistan, bad idea?
« Reply #94 on: August 16, 2021, 11:32:48 AM »
Quote from: macsak on August 16, 2021, 11:27:47 AM
biden's speech last week he said that the US government was paying the Afghan military and police...

Watch Bidens speech today, he moved more goalposts than our resident moron does on his best day. He also blamed everyone other than himself, like he just entered DC politics for the first time in Jan. He even thru shade at Obama.

Pretty sure Sleepy Joe just ran out of friends.
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drck1000

Re: withdrawal from Afghanistan, bad idea?
« Reply #95 on: August 16, 2021, 11:37:51 AM »
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A former Obama-era ambassador to Afghanistan says he has "grave questions" about President Biden's "ability to lead" America as the nation's commander in chief following the stunning collapse of Afghanistan.

In an interview over the weekend, former Afghanistan Ambassador Ryan Crocker questioned the president’s leadership capabilities amid the Taliban's swift takeover of the country. 

SNIP

"I think the direction was predictable; the trajectory was not," he said. "What President Biden has done is to embrace the Afghan policy of President Trump, and this is the outcome."

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/obama-afghanistan-ambassador-grave-questions-biden-ability-lead



So wait, fault is being placed where? 
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Glasser

Re: withdrawal from Afghanistan, bad idea?
« Reply #96 on: August 16, 2021, 11:39:56 AM »
Biden also lied in today's speech when he said the US made sure the Afghan Defense Force had a working Air Force. Docs already came out that the Biden WH denied outside maintenance teams to come in and keep the equipment air worthy.
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changemyoil66

Re: withdrawal from Afghanistan, bad idea?
« Reply #97 on: August 16, 2021, 11:40:16 AM »
Quote from: Glasser on August 16, 2021, 11:32:48 AM
Watch Bidens speech today, he moved more goalposts than our resident moron does on his best day.

No wonder they mentioned needing F15's. Everyone can afford them now.
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drck1000

Re: withdrawal from Afghanistan, bad idea?
« Reply #98 on: August 16, 2021, 11:43:26 AM »
Quote from: macsak on August 16, 2021, 11:29:38 AM
focus
"word around town" means it's a story/rumor...
#3.7outofwhat
3.7 out of 10? 

Lately, methinks out of 100. . .

(just teasing. . .)
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Kuleana

Re: withdrawal from Afghanistan, bad idea?
« Reply #99 on: August 16, 2021, 11:43:56 AM »
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