Apparently a bunch of the choppers the Taliban got in the Welcome Wagon were Spec War Apaches, top of the line brand new next gen tech. It used to be we didnt give much of an F about  airframes or engines falling into enemy hands it was always about making sure they did not get a hold of the avionics and comm gear , (the stuff we never sell even to allies).

The hope is that the choppers are only used for a few months at most then breakdown due to lack on maintenance.  But who's to say the Taliban won't pay to have mechanics perform PMCS on them.

I forgot the name of the city, but it started with a G. The Afgani people took it back form the Taliban.  Hope there is more to come.

https://twitter.com/EliseStefanik/status/1428474768911740940


WSJ is reporting that officials serving in the Kabul embassy sent word to the Sec of State LAST MONTH about Taliban gains & that evacuations needed to happen fast.

How & why was this ignored?

IF we give Biden the benefit of the doubt on his statements about 'Never being informed' about any of these possibilities. That leaves only a couple options, no one bothered to brief him because he was never really was in charge so why keep Capt Ice Cream in the loop, and the folks in his cabinet and on the security council were a bunch of Vindmans and Nulands, ever so certain THEY knew how better to deal with international situations than the POTUS ever would so they ran their own game.


Not severely punishing all the people who ran out of bounds under Trump was a really bad precedent to set, and was certain to come back to bite folks on the ass.

So like Bhengazi.Same kind of administration, so did they expect anything different?

So like Bhengazi.Same kind of administration, so did they expect anything different?

Actually the EXACT same players involved in Benghazi are involved in the Afghan withdrawl, there is a list of names rolling around and its the same 7 people balls deep in both. But at this point what difference does it make?

Rather than wring our fists over the equipment being left, remember we still have a large fleet of drones.

The US still owns the skies in that region, so anytime the Taliban act up, we have the means to give them at least some resistance.

If the Afghan government isn't able to protect against ground forces, we shouldn't have to worry about "invading" their airspace.  We did it in Iraq with the "No Fly" zones.

Rather than wring our fists over the equipment being left, remember we still have a large fleet of drones.

The US still owns the skies in that region, so anytime the Taliban act up, we have the means to give them at least some resistance.

If the Afghan government isn't able to protect against ground forces, we shouldn't have to worry about "invading" their airspace.  We did it in Iraq with the "No Fly" zones.

IDk how much tech changed, but would boots on the ground still be needed to ID targets or paint them (General Hummel from The Rock reference)?  Or can we use 100% drones and a call from the local Afgani saying the Taliban is attacking?

IDk how much tech changed, but would boots on the ground still be needed to ID targets or paint them (General Hummel from The Rock reference)?  Or can we use 100% drones and a call from the local Afgani saying the Taliban is attacking?

No need for spotters, just do like Obama and aim at the big parties celebrating a wedding.

My bad, apparently those next Gen Spec War choppers the Taliban has their greasy mits on are Blackhawks not Apaches.

IDk how much tech changed, but would boots on the ground still be needed to ID targets or paint them (General Hummel from The Rock reference)?  Or can we use 100% drones and a call from the local Afgani saying the Taliban is attacking?

Lots of different ways to identify a target.  One accurate way is triangulating a cell or radio signal.

The disadvantage of using drones exclusively to fight a war is collateral damage.  The enemy lives and sleeps among the population.  Have to take advantage of troop/VIP movements, supply convoys, etc...anything that creates space between the bad guys and the innocents.

If we see a line of US-made vehicles scooting down the road while flying Taliban or ISIS flags, I'd say that's a great place for a little

"Repo Man:  UAV Edition!"   

I wanna laugh because this would be damn hilarious of it wasn't real life. Enjoy 'Trusting the Government' they are really looking out for their citizens. His cabinet shouldn't be allowed to resign, they should be handed over to the Taliban.

State Dept's Overseas Security Advisory Council said Aug. 14: "Repatriation flights are not free, & passengers will be required to sign a promissory loan agreement & may not be eligible to renew their U.S. passports til the loan is repaid. Cost may be $2,000 or more per person."




https://mobile.twitter.com/JerryDunleavy/status/1428449620997414919

Taliban captured the data base that stored the info of the Afgani's who helped the US and their allies.  Facial recognition, finger prints, scars, etc...Guess they didn't do what Flapp mentioned and thermited the hardware.

Taliban captured the data base that stored the info of the Afgani's who helped the US and their allies.  Facial recognition, finger prints, scars, etc...Guess they didn't do what Flapp mentioned and thermited the hardware.

This mass exodus came without warning (#sarcasm).  No time to perform data destruction, much less equipment destruction. 

When the house is on fire, you leave everything and hope you have time to get out alive!

When does negligence reach the point of criminal? Biden certainly didnt make all these little day to day decisions.

State Department Mum On Why It Killed Pompeo's Crisis Evacuation Unit


The CCR was specifically authorized by then-Secretary of State Mike Pompeo on Sept. 21, 2020, to be developed from the department’s existing OpMed program.

Congress was notified Oct. 13, 2020, about the new organization, and the official reorganization plan was approved Nov. 16, 2020. The official “standup” of CCR was ordered on Dec. 23, 2020.

Pompeo viewed the CCR as needed to upgrade the department’s ability to prevent a repeat of the Benghazi tragedy in Libya in 2012, when Islamic terrorists stormed a U.S. facility there, killing three security personnel and Ambassador Christopher Stevens before U.S. forces arrived on the scene.

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/state-department-mum-why-it-killed-pompeos-crisis-evacuation-unit

So apparently nation building means hiring all the village idiots and stoner burn outs and giving them a rifle that they will forget to carry. Afghanistan is pretty famous for having multigenerational hardened warfighter families. Why did we not get any of them on our team? I wonder how many of these clowns were high on opium when they surrendered to the Taliban.


https://mobile.twitter.com/JoshD0110/status/1428295447471341572

Another Fun Fact

The Taliban at the end of 2001 offered an unconditional surrender to US Spec War operators, promising to disband and disarm. Bush and Rumsfeld ignored the offer.  And here we are now.


His back to the wall, Mullah Omar [leader of the Taliban] drew up a letter to Hamid Karzai, acknowledging his selection as interim president. The letter also granted Omar's ministers, deputies, and aides the right to surrender.
On December 5 [2001] a Taliban delegation arrived at the US special forces camp north of Kandahar city to officially relinquish power...[The Taliban]...pledged to retire from politics and return to their home villages. Crucially, they also agreed that their movement would surrender arms, effectively ensuring the Taliban could no longer function as a military entity. There would be no jihad, no resistance from the Taliban to the new order.


It took barely two months after the U.S. invasion of Afghanistan in October 2001 for the United States mission to point itself toward defeat.
"Tomorrow the Taliban will start surrendering their weapons," the Taliban's spokesman Mullah Abdul Salam Zaeef announced on December 7, 2001. "I think we should go home." But the United States refused the group's surrender, vowing to fight on to shatter the Taliban's influence in every corner of the country.


And here we are today....

Rumsfeld was pretty much pure evil.

What in the ever living F*CK

Canadian PM Spoke With Hillary Clinton About Afghanistan Because Biden And Harris Were AWOL


Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau revealed earlier this week that after the Taliban took Kabul, he spoke not with Joe Biden or even Kamala Harris, but with Hillary Clinton instead.



https://www.zerohedge.com/political/canadian-pm-spoke-hillary-clinton-about-afghanistan-because-biden-and-harris-were-awol

https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1428664712535973893

Taliban "special forces" parade with U.S.-made weapons in Zabul Province, southeast #Afghanistan.

Everyone has a brand new m4 and a plate carrier. Since we are done arming them to the teeth does this mean the US ammo shortage is over now?

Reporter goes off script, watch his colleagues in the press bin turn and go WTF, Biden fumbles with unprepared answer and nopes out and ends the presser. 


https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1428787408330493962

what they need is Ige and Green to scare them with Covid and order them into lockdowns and mask mandates.....problem solved

Another Fun Fact

The Taliban at the end of 2001 offered an unconditional surrender to US Spec War operators, promising to disband and disarm. Bush and Rumsfeld ignored the offer.  And here we are now.


His back to the wall, Mullah Omar [leader of the Taliban] drew up a letter to Hamid Karzai, acknowledging his selection as interim president. The letter also granted Omar's ministers, deputies, and aides the right to surrender.
On December 5 [2001] a Taliban delegation arrived at the US special forces camp north of Kandahar city to officially relinquish power...[The Taliban]...pledged to retire from politics and return to their home villages. Crucially, they also agreed that their movement would surrender arms, effectively ensuring the Taliban could no longer function as a military entity. There would be no jihad, no resistance from the Taliban to the new order.


It took barely two months after the U.S. invasion of Afghanistan in October 2001 for the United States mission to point itself toward defeat.
"Tomorrow the Taliban will start surrendering their weapons," the Taliban's spokesman Mullah Abdul Salam Zaeef announced on December 7, 2001. "I think we should go home." But the United States refused the group's surrender, vowing to fight on to shatter the Taliban's influence in every corner of the country.


And here we are today....

Rumsfeld was pretty much pure evil.

It is pure vindication to know those, who were against the illegal US imperial invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan twenty years ago, were totally justified opposing both debacles, which were then both supported by the so-called Republicans and their counterparts among the Democrats.

I am only glad Trump did not go down to take the blame, for the US imperial idiocy, that the current senile old fool is getting now.