How many? 50? 200? 20,000?

Provide a rough estimate. I wont hold u to it if youre wrong. And dont expect u to google. Use what u can remember.

Idk if hvybrls is right or wrong. I never looked into it. But using critical thinking, 1 can deduct that its too early to know. And im not gonna gamble with mrs.cmo's ability to have a child.

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4got to add in, what about birth defects? Some may not be known until later, like autism.

So again, no long term stats yet.

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I hope I am wrong, but if true we should start to see a difference of infection rates in red vs blue states in the next few weeks. Of course the numbers will be fudged and expect every dirty trick in the book (per usual), but half or more of the country absolutely refuses to take the clot shots so at some point it will be glaringly obvious.

So to me, it doesn't look like a red/blue thing.  But then we go into the red/blue states who push the vaxx, that's a different story.

You are right, and I made that distinction for brevity. Places like Florida with anti-mandate laws should sick out like a sore thumb vs high vax sheep states.

Omni asked why Mac doesn't jump all over your post.  And even I don't. Specifically for your preggers 1, IDK enough about it to comment.  That's why I never mentioned much.  Then asked omni to list what he remembers since he sounded so sure that you were wrong.

Then for your red/blue post, I didn't look up any stats, but I posted what I personally observed and was specific to mention my observations. I could also be wrong.

Plus, you don't move goal post.

My daughter is entering Pharmacy School and did all the biochem and biology classes.
She learned about and researched mRNA vaccines and she took it.
Nope, she doesn’t have the answer but she go we go. My whole immediate family took it.
My brother and sister still won’t.

My biological family thinks I am a selfish a-hole conspiracy nut, but they voted for a racist vegetable sex offender so I take it with a grain of salt

My biological family thinks I am a selfish a-hole conspiracy nut, but they voted for a racist vegetable sex offender so I take it with a grain of salt

My mom worries, but moms will mom.

Dad worries, but not as much. He trust my judgement with all available info that I have.  Least to say that he never heard about much up it. Like Israel/UK stats, 3rd Pfizer shot, Taiwan/Japan/Korea vaxx rate. Pretty much only what he hears on CNN.

How many? 50? 200? 20,000?

Provide a rough estimate. I wont hold u to it if youre wrong. And dont expect u to google. Use what u can remember.

Idk if hvybrls is right or wrong. I never looked into it. But using critical thinking, 1 can deduct that its too early to know. And im not gonna gamble with mrs.cmo's ability to have a child.

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Testing started earlier than that.  If findings were found it would be reported.  No goal posts moved.   

The whole point of them trials was to find out long term effects.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/health/swine-flu-vaccine-side-effects-so-bad-that-children-were-like-schizophrenics-37275895.html

Swine-flu vaccine side-effects so bad 'that children were like schizophrenics'

Children who developed narcolepsy after being given the swine flu vaccine were affected by such serious sleep-disorder related conditions that some were initially thought to be suffering from schizophrenia.

The revelation came as the solicitors acting for two-thirds of those now suing the State over having received the controversial vaccine Pandemrix warned that a redress scheme was simply not enough and that full accountability was required for what happened.

In severe cases, sufferers can fall asleep at any time - when they are eating, sitting watching TV or even while working in a school classroom.

Many suffer from cataplexy - loss of muscle tone - causing them to collapse like a puppet when experiencing extreme emotions. They also suffer from sleep paralysis, rendering them unable to move while they experience hallucinations.

In many cases, the severity of these dreams and nightmares, and their understandable consequences for young people, led doctors to suspect a form of schizophrenia before narcolepsy was finally diagnosed.

Solicitors Michael Boylan and Gillian O'Connor warned that those patients who developed narcolepsy from Pandemrix now suffered from a life-long condition.

Mr Boylan said what sufferers had endured was simply beyond belief.

"There is no cure. This is something that these people, many of whom are children, are going to have to live with and cope with for the rest of their lives," he said.

Please show where vaccine trials included having participants attempt to get pregnant and impregnate someone after months after being injected.

I remember 40k for one of the trials.  Might be more.   Cause there was more than one trial.


If we wanted goal post moving I would point out current pregnancies but I chose to leave that out because other than the ability to get pregnant, I am unsure what exactly the conspiracy  theorists are focused on.

Goal post has gotten swoosh away!

even though no drug maker is going to purposely expose a mother or father to the risks associated with such a "test".

He pretends to know what clinical trials involve, then ASSUMES they must have included fertility and birth defects, even though no drug maker is going to purposely expose a mother or father to the risks associated with such a "test".

"Ooops!  Looks like your little boy was born without a brain.  Don't worry, though.  He's still qualified to vote Democrat."