The Jab (Read 174517 times)

Glasser

Re: The Jab
« Reply #360 on: September 07, 2021, 08:43:50 PM »
#notarealteacher

Now now, just because your pet project OmniNumb has a learning disability and is unreachable doesnt mean you have nothing to teach.


drck1000

Re: The Jab
« Reply #361 on: September 07, 2021, 08:46:13 PM »
#notarealteacher
#waytoomuchtimeonhishands

drck1000

Re: The Jab
« Reply #362 on: September 07, 2021, 08:47:34 PM »
Now now, just because your pet project OmniNumb has a learning disability and is unreachable doesnt mean you have nothing to teach.
If only had firearms, ammo, or anything interesting.

omnigun

Re: The Jab
« Reply #363 on: September 07, 2021, 08:54:59 PM »
#fakenews

Vaccine helps more than a little and death rate is not flu level.  Covid will kill you more often than any gun violence.

Glasser

Re: The Jab
« Reply #364 on: September 07, 2021, 08:57:24 PM »
Try again Dip Wad. Check the numbers, you have a much better chance of dying in a car accident than from COVID. FBI stats for gun violence are ultra low. keep being stupid and making things up. Choke your chicken to Facebook and stay retarded Dumbass.

macsak

Re: The Jab
« Reply #365 on: September 07, 2021, 09:04:00 PM »
#fakenews

Vaccine helps more than a little and death rate is not flu level.  Covid will kill you more often than any gun violence.

"covid" was responsible for something like 4% of "covid-related" deaths...

changemyoil66

Re: The Jab
« Reply #366 on: September 07, 2021, 09:05:11 PM »
Try again Dip Wad. Check the numbers, you have a much better chance of dying in a car accident than from COVID. FBI stats for gun violence are ultra low. keep being stupid and making things up. Choke your chicken to Facebook and stay retarded Dumbass.
Dont 4get the deck is stacked.

Dies from meteorite hit...covid related.

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Glasser

Re: The Jab
« Reply #367 on: September 07, 2021, 09:07:30 PM »
"covid" was responsible for something like 4% of "covid-related" deaths...

Irony is cause of death listed for almost everyone pre-Covid was literally 'Heart Stopped'. How is now any different Bat Flu or not?

hvybarrels

Re: The Jab
« Reply #368 on: September 07, 2021, 09:34:49 PM »



Am I  really supposed to be persuaded by a smarmy condescending propagandist who specializes in character assassination?

Come on bro, you're really scraping the bottom of the barrel here
The problem governments are trying to solve is the existence of your freedom.

aletheuo137

Re: The Jab
« Reply #369 on: September 08, 2021, 03:14:34 AM »
So where was I casting doubt? I just said be weary of opinion piece masquerading as news. Nothing to do with politics. At all….

Anyways, carry on…
Everything is opinion IMHO. Follow the money because the so called experts will say what the people funding them pay for. Lately it's more paid for opinions than expert reporting. You'll hear what you want to hear. Myself included!

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omnigun

Re: The Jab
« Reply #370 on: September 08, 2021, 06:57:37 AM »
Try again Dip Wad. Check the numbers, you have a much better chance of dying in a car accident than from COVID. FBI stats for gun violence are ultra low. keep being stupid and making things up. Choke your chicken to Facebook and stay retarded Dumbass.

You wear seat belts? Or da statistics of car crash 2 low.  God gave you those impact absorbing body parts. 

omnigun

Re: The Jab
« Reply #371 on: September 08, 2021, 06:58:52 AM »
All these hospitalizations for apparently non covid related illnesses sure are normal.   Wait till one of your you idiots catch it and end up there.   Some people learn the hard way.   Or don't. 

drck1000

Re: The Jab
« Reply #372 on: September 08, 2021, 07:25:26 AM »
Everything is opinion IMHO. Follow the money because the so called experts will say what the people funding them pay for. Lately it's more paid for opinions than expert reporting. You'll hear what you want to hear. Myself included!

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Like anything in life, there are ranges to the extremes.  Folks like Michael W Perry who flat out inject his views before reporting the news is  ::)  Even speaking to experts themselves, one should at least think about the context and where that person is coming from.  A really good friend is in immunology and her PhD is in the MNRA stuff, but she's working on a different condition.  She knows many of the folks who are cited personally and she mentioned even questioning those folks face-to-face at times at what or why they were reporting things a certain way. 

And, just because they may be on the same side of the issue/argument, doesn't make them automatically credible.  However, there are definitely "articles" out there that are 99.99% opinion, and folks start parroting them as fact.  Again, doesn't matter what side, political spectrum, etc, you are.  Personally, I think locally Civil Beat is one of the worst.  I would loop HNN in there as bad, but they just have bad reporting overall. 

eyeeatingfish

Re: The Jab
« Reply #373 on: September 08, 2021, 08:37:21 PM »
Am I  really supposed to be persuaded by a smarmy condescending propagandist who specializes in character assassination?

Come on bro, you're really scraping the bottom of the barrel here

If that is what you think about him that just shows you really don't know him very well. Go watch some of his other videos. I didn't post that video just because he speaks out against Dr. Bossche, I posted the video because he has a track record of being objective and nuanced and therefore can give a fair assessment of what Dr. Bossche is saying.

eyeeatingfish

Re: The Jab
« Reply #374 on: September 08, 2021, 08:43:05 PM »
You either believe the vaxx will save you from serious illness or you dont. If it will protect you than you have ZERO worry of someone else taking away life saving care from you.

That doesn't make any sense. If I believe vaccines work but the hospitals are overcrowded by the unvaccinated then it does affect whether I get life saving care.

I found out I had skin cancer right about the beginning of covid. Luckily it was something taken care of in a regular doctor's office but what if it had been more serious where I had to be admitted but there were no beds? I went shooting with a surgeon and he told me of a lady who was turned away from surgery due to covid and when she came back the tumor had already spread and she would likely die. There were no vaccines at the time so unfortunately it was unavoidable for her. 

eyeeatingfish

Re: The Jab
« Reply #375 on: September 08, 2021, 08:52:40 PM »
We covered this in the covid thread, but basically why should 1 trust the lying media now when for the past 5 years they made stuff up. Russia, ukraine, sex assault, etc....The boy who cried wolf example.

Then why trust gov agencies who have and can be weaponized against trump supporters. Flynn, Stone, etc...

This is why myself and others dont trust whats being told on TV. Then add in the cdc being wrong multiple times. And the excuse for them is cause covid is new. So they can make no mistakes nor be held accountable.

I wont get too much into it here due to it being covered already, feel free to read the covid thread for more details. Idk exactly where.

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Why should we trust the media after years of lies? A perfectly fair and valid point. But we don't have to trust the media, we can verify. Look into the data and see if they match what is being reported. Find explanations that add context to help digest the data instead of just listening to some politician spin of the data.

The problem that bothers me is when this lack of trust only rears its head when looking at the opposition. People who say they don't trust Doctors but suddenly find the one guy saying vaccines are bad and take that message without question. They don't trust the media except when it is someone supporting their position.


Combining replies:

Could hospitals have been more prepared? Maybe a little but its not like its just a matter of buying more supplies. More beds, more staff, more space, etc. there is a lot of logistics. And even if we somehow point to hospitals saying that they didn't prepare well enough that really changes nothing when it comes to a full hospital deciding who to admit and who to turn away. Arguments about blame don't solve hospital crowding, a hospital will be forced to decide how to triage.


If we were neighbors would you have a problem with me deciding to burn tires? What if I told you I didn't trust the media that told me burning rubber fumes are bad for you? I could tell you mind your own business and buy a fan to push the smoke away if you don't like it.
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eyeeatingfish

Re: The Jab
« Reply #376 on: September 08, 2021, 09:05:40 PM »
"covid" was responsible for something like 4% of "covid-related" deaths...

Proof?

ren

Re: The Jab
« Reply #377 on: September 08, 2021, 09:22:35 PM »
If we were neighbors would you have a problem with me deciding to burn tires? What if I told you I didn't trust the media that told me burning rubber fumes are bad for you? I could tell you mind your own business and buy a fan to push the smoke away if you don't like it.

that's illegal
Deeds Not Words

macsak

aletheuo137

Re: The Jab
« Reply #379 on: September 09, 2021, 03:09:59 AM »
oops, i was wrong
it was 6%
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/health_policy/covid19-comorbidity-expanded-12092020-508.pdf
Off by 2%. We'll tar & feather you later!

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