The Jab (Read 174431 times)

hvybarrels

Re: The Jab
« Reply #500 on: September 16, 2021, 11:59:39 AM »
Nah, there are so many believers in the vaxx that it won't matter.  Of which those believers have little to no first hand XP from people who actually had problems and trust the government blindly.

I had another guy I know died after getting the vaxx. He's a body builder about 8% bodyfat.  But to be fair, he has been on roidz for over a decade.  Roidz does cause heart problems.

But these are a handfull compared to say 3 dozen people that I know of who are vaxxed.  But the point is 1 may never catch covid, so to inject yourself with a new vaxx for human usage causes my concern.  Of which full clinical trials are not done yet.

Just in my circle I know a few injuries as well. Eventually people will figure out that the whole narrative has been a lie, but it will probably take a lot more people dying when the medium/long term effects kick in
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changemyoil66

Re: The Jab
« Reply #501 on: September 16, 2021, 12:21:45 PM »
Just in my circle I know a few injuries as well. Eventually people will figure out that the whole narrative has been a lie, but it will probably take a lot more people dying when the medium/long term effects kick in

Both you and I don't count.  Until our resident medical expert knows of someone, then it will count.

omnigun

Re: The Jab
« Reply #502 on: September 16, 2021, 12:27:23 PM »
Both you and I don't count.  Until our resident medical expert knows of someone, then it will count.

None of us count.  Leave it up to actual experts. 

aletheuo137

Re: The Jab
« Reply #503 on: September 16, 2021, 12:27:45 PM »
Both you and I don't count.  Until our resident medical expert knows of someone, then it will count.
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aletheuo137

Re: The Jab
« Reply #504 on: September 17, 2021, 02:12:05 AM »
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eyeeatingfish

Re: The Jab
« Reply #505 on: September 17, 2021, 09:54:52 PM »
errf

CDCs only job, track diseases and their spread.

FDAs only job test drugs to see if they are safe for consuption.

Neither is a healthcare organization. They never in history have been the ones to tell doctors what do do.

I question that conclusion. Disease tracking data is going to provide all sorts of information that is going to be very useful to doctors.


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"Think about it this way, if the government did nothing it would still be blamed plus the death toll would likely be higher.'
Obama literally ignored the swine flu outbreak and did nothing.

H1N1 swine flu outbreak of 2009 infected 700 million people world-wide and caused  575,000 fatalities only in the first year of the outbreak in 2009

They didn't do nothing. Swine flu was also quite a bit different than covid, a response for two different diseases aren't going to be the same. It would be silly to require masks to stop HIV for example.
https://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/cdcresponse.htm

eyeeatingfish

Re: The Jab
« Reply #506 on: September 17, 2021, 10:01:00 PM »
Regarding the narrative we are being told that most of the people who die in Hawaii are unvaccinated, here’s some things to consider:

1. If someone who took the jab gets hospitalized and dies within 14 days of being vaccinated, they count it as an unvaccinated death.  What if some of those  person actually died from taking the jab and not from covid?

2. What if some of those deaths were caused by the treatment protocols used to treat those admitted for covid, and not from covid itself?  What if the underlying conditions that led to organ failure are actually caused by the wrong treatments (medical malpractice), and not by covid as we are told?

3. What about the claim by the Hawaii Whistleblower that Dr Green conflated the number of covid deaths by including deaths of hospice patients?

Good scientific questions and I think the answer is in the data. Not always easy to isolate but I think those questions are answerable with good data.

So for example, I think #2 could be answered by looking at the normal rates of medical malpractice and applying that percentage to covid patients and seeing what percentage of covid blamed deaths they could be accounting for,

macsak

Re: The Jab
« Reply #507 on: September 17, 2021, 10:15:15 PM »
I question that conclusion. Disease tracking data is going to provide all sorts of information that is going to be very useful to doctors.


They didn't do nothing. Swine flu was also quite a bit different than covid, a response for two different diseases aren't going to be the same. It would be silly to require masks to stop HIV for example.
https://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/cdcresponse.htm

please show me where he said the information was not going to be very useful
for someone who chooses his words SO carefully, you are awfully cavalier with your interpretation of what others say quite often...

eyeeatingfish

Re: The Jab
« Reply #508 on: September 18, 2021, 08:11:20 PM »
please show me where he said the information was not going to be very useful
for someone who chooses his words SO carefully, you are awfully cavalier with your interpretation of what others say quite often...

He implied that the CDC shouldn't tell doctors what to do. The information CDC gathers is going to be very useful in telling doctors what to do in certain situations.

oldfart

Re: The Jab
« Reply #509 on: September 19, 2021, 03:16:02 AM »
I just thought I would drop this photo here in case you never heard of thalidomide.
The drug that was rushed to the public before being fully vetted.


As I've mentioned before, I had a childhood friend and an in-law with the classic deformities.
But they are both dead now. Nice, huh?

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hvybarrels

Re: The Jab
« Reply #510 on: September 19, 2021, 07:19:43 AM »
I just thought I would drop this photo here in case you never heard of thalidomide.
The drug that was rushed to the public before being fully vetted.


As I've mentioned before, I had a childhood friend and an in-law with the classic deformities.
But they are both dead now. Nice, huh?

Those babies obviously didn’t trust the science enough
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changemyoil66

Re: The Jab
« Reply #511 on: September 19, 2021, 08:37:37 AM »
Those babies obviously didn’t trust the science enough
Or the government.

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oldfart

Re: The Jab
« Reply #512 on: September 19, 2021, 08:59:46 AM »
I read somewhere that 40% of those babies died at birth....a bittersweet statistic at best.

My daughter-in-law was isolated from the world for the last year or so because I raised my son to think for himself and he took the extraordinary stance to isolate his family until my new grandbaby arrived. He saw first-hand what happened to his thalidomide-uncle. (No pun intended)

 About 2 weeks ago my new grandbaby popped out....complete with arms and all the usual attachments.
They will emerge from isolation in November.
 :thumbsup:
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changemyoil66

Re: The Jab
« Reply #513 on: September 19, 2021, 09:12:58 AM »
I read somewhere that 40% of those babies died at birth....a bittersweet statistic at best.

My daughter-in-law was isolated from the world for the last year or so because I raised my son to think for himself and he took the extraordinary stance to isolate his family until my new grandbaby arrived. He saw first-hand what happened to his thalidomide-uncle. (No pun intended)

 About 2 weeks ago my new grandbaby popped out....complete with arms and all the usual attachments.
They will emerge from isolation in November.
 
We want to start a family soon. Gotta look up having covid and any birth defects.

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oldfart

Re: The Jab
« Reply #514 on: September 19, 2021, 12:18:58 PM »
We want to start a family soon. Gotta look up having covid and any birth defects.

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I wouldn't worry about covid causing birth defects.
I would worry about new drugs and birth defects.
Less is better, in my opinion. Good luck to you and your new family.
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: The Jab
« Reply #515 on: September 19, 2021, 12:38:25 PM »
If the vaccines are only recommended for 16 yr olds and older, and the unborn child gets his/her immunity from the mother, it doesn't make any sense to give the vaccine to someone who is, or expects to be, pregnant.

It's an unknown risk, so prudence would dictate avoiding the vaccine prior to giving birth while being hyper-vigilant to do all the things we know reduces the chances of infection.

Aspirin was first created in 1853.  A precursor for aspirin found in the Willow Tree has been used for 2,400 years.  It took until 1986 for the FDA to recognize the risk of Reye's Syndrome in children to recommend that pregnant women in the last few months of pregnancy, children and teenagers avoid using aspirin.

COVID vaccines have had less than 2 years of clinical and field testing.  Anyone who makes the statement "there's no evidence of long term effects causing birth defects," has no clue what "long term" means.
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the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
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omnigun

Re: The Jab
« Reply #516 on: September 19, 2021, 12:55:36 PM »
Vaccines are different than current dosing medicine...one has much greater risk....

Flapp_Jackson

Re: The Jab
« Reply #517 on: September 19, 2021, 01:15:25 PM »
Vaccines are different than current dosing medicine...one has much greater risk....

Studies?  Facts?  Experts?

Anything at all to back up that conclusion/opinion/fake news?

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Jl808

Re: The Jab
« Reply #518 on: September 20, 2021, 06:03:37 PM »
Project Veritas HHS Whistleblower - Part 1 “Vaccine is Full of Sh*t”

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changemyoil66

Re: The Jab
« Reply #519 on: September 20, 2021, 06:21:04 PM »
Project Veritas HHS Whistleblower - Part 1 “Vaccine is Full of Sh*t”


Dont u know, they are fake news. Despite the many retractions made trying to call them fake news or legal suits won.

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