Has anyone picked up the permit and registered a weapon in the same day?
Yes. It has happened. Vibes are very important. Sometimes, life depends on luck.

I sold my son in law 2 handguns.  We picked up his permit, signed over the guns, and registered both in his name  -- all in one visit.

The registration vestibule was completely empty.  No line and no one with an appointment.

We went just after noon.  Left before 12:30.

I registered a firearm today. I wanted to say it they did well. I got there about 6:30 and was about 15th in line. At 7am, The officers take your license, and give you an appointment paper. At 8:45 i came back, 30 minutes early for my appointment, they took me right in, registered in maybe 15 minutes and i was out.
I would like to mention that all the officers working were friendly, and quickly finished all the paperwork needed. If anyone from HPD is reading this, Thank you for the great work and great attitudes.

Went to Register at 1;15 pm Tuesday, 3rd in line outside the door, done in 30 minutes.

I would like to mention that all the officers working were friendly, and quickly finished all the paperwork needed. If anyone from HPD is reading this, Thank you for the great work and great attitudes.

These officers are very mellow and getting very efficient at the whole process. I went in on Friday Sept. 17 to pick up two permits to acquire, one for long guns and the other for a pistol. They now give you only 10 days to register the pistol, which in my case is due to be inspected on Sept. 27 by HPD. Up until recently, we thought they were going to be flexible about the 3rd phase of fully registering a handgun. If you do not register it in 10 days, the PTA process has to be repeated.

When you go in to get your pistol permit (phase 2), they let you jump ahead of the owners who are registering a weapon. That seems to be a nice gesture on their part, since most people need to travel all the way back to their dealer to pick up the pistol.

Wrong information above corrected. Probable misunderstanding of answer to a question while querying an official. 9-23-21

If you do not register it in 10 days, the PTA process has to be repeated.

So they will confiscate the firearm and force you to re-apply?

So they will confiscate the firearm and force you to re-apply?

Not sure if they take your gun however it shouldn’t be a problem getting your gun registered within 10days. 

I went in today at 800 and was given #17 or 40.  I think a lot of the back log is over and it is getting easier to come in later in the day and still get a walk in appointment number.


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Not sure if they take your gun however it shouldn’t be a problem getting your gun registered within 10days. 

Maybe. But there's a shitload of people who still haven't reg'd under the assumption there was no definitive time requirement.
 I was there earlier this month, and the huge white cop was asked- he admitted there was no time requirement, but told the guy, "come in as soon as you can".

This is BS if they only giving 10 days, unless they grandfather the guys from earlier.

Maybe. But there's a shitload of people who still haven't reg'd under the assumption there was no definitive time requirement.
 I was there earlier this month, and the huge white cop was asked- he admitted there was no time requirement, but told the guy, "come in as soon as you can".

This is BS if they only giving 10 days, unless they grandfather the guys from earlier.

I doubt anyone will have their gun/s confiscated.

The law requires you to get a permit to acquire.  Once acquired, all the hurdles have been navigated for possession/ownership.

For registration, if HPD is enforcing a 5-day, 10-day or some other time limit, they reportedly call you to give you a gentle reminder to come in and register.  So, even if you busted the 5-days in the law before COVID, you didn't get your gun confiscated, and you damn sure didn't have to redo the PTA! 

Imagine having to apply for another permit, take the permit to the person/dealer to sign, and also have the dealer re-send the firearm info to HPD again.  There's no logical rationale for that.

Now, IF they decide you ignored your phone reminders, the law only requires them to charge you with a petty misdemeanor.  That doesn't require confiscating a legally acquired firearm.

If they decide to make up their own laws and tell you to surrender the gun, THEN they may have a policy that requires you to go through the permit process again to retrieve it.

Basically, if you make the effort to register after being reminded, nothing bad will happen to you.  If they don't remind you, you may not be on their list of expected registrations.

Impressive reply. I would feel bad if I just typed "Raaj" in response.
 Hopefully the robots at HPD & C&C are holding on to whatever little bit of reason they have left in their smooth brains.

I was there earlier this month, and the huge white cop was asked- he admitted there was no time requirement, but told the guy, "come in as soon as you can".
This is BS if they only giving 10 days, unless they grandfather the guys from earlier.

I will ask again when I re-visit my favorite place in town, HPD HQ. On the signed off permit to acquire form, there is a line near the bottom which reads: THIS PERMIT IS VOID AFTER blah blah. I have the gun in my hand, signed off by the dealer, last Friday. If the cop who told me I needed to bring the weapon in for registration within 10 days is right, then the consequences could be unpleasant, should I miss the deadline. If he meant that I needed to pick up the gun, within a certain amount of time, then this leaves open the question of registration.
Last Friday, there was a guy who had not registered for two months. Alas, I did not stick around to find out whether he was successful or not.

I will ask again when I re-visit my favorite place in town, HPD HQ. On the signed off permit to acquire form, there is a line near the bottom which reads: THIS PERMIT IS VOID AFTER blah blah. I have the gun in my hand, signed off by the dealer, last Friday. If the cop who told me I needed to bring the weapon in for registration within 10 days is right, then the consequences could be unpleasant, should I miss the deadline. If he meant that I needed to pick up the gun, within a certain amount of time, then this leaves open the question of registration.
Last Friday, there was a guy who had not registered for two months. Alas, I did not stick around to find out whether he was successful or not.

There are people reporting that a friend or relative (take it on faith) registered a firearm after having it for years.  No questions asked.  What is HPD going to do?  Not register it?

Normally the "possession of an unregistered firearm" only comes up as an additional charge if you got charged with something else, like drug possession.

Yeah, the law and forms say the permit expires on a given date, but registration is a separate process.  Once you've acquired the gun. the permit has been executed, and the expiration date is moot.  BTW, as an example, if you owned a gun outside of Hawaii and bring it in, you don't need a PTA to register.  Saying, "Your PTA expired, so you can't register" makes no sense.

HPD will tell you whatever they think will get you to comply.  If you're honestly trying to comply, and they keep changing the rules, the confusion factor alone is enough for you to claim you weren't aware of the latest rule change.

I will ask again when I re-visit my favorite place in town, HPD HQ. On the signed off permit to acquire form, there is a line near the bottom which reads: THIS PERMIT IS VOID AFTER blah blah. I have the gun in my hand, signed off by the dealer, last Friday. If the cop who told me I needed to bring the weapon in for registration within 10 days is right, then the consequences could be unpleasant, should I miss the deadline. If he meant that I needed to pick up the gun, within a certain amount of time, then this leaves open the question of registration.
Last Friday, there was a guy who had not registered for two months. Alas, I did not stick around to find out whether he was successful or not.

During covid era I have not registered pistols and long rifles for many months.  I had no issues.   HPD is out to help.   They are understanding.  This is hard times. 

During covid era I have not registered pistols and long rifles for many months.  I had no issues.   HPD is out to help.   They are understanding.  This is hard times.

Oh you funny.... Yeah, they're out to help you. Right out of your rights

Oh you funny.... Yeah, they're out to help you. Right out of your rights

Most of them this is not the case.  A select few bad apples shouldn't spoil the harvest. 

The law requires you to get a permit to acquire.  Once acquired, all the hurdles have been navigated for possession/ownership.

For registration, if HPD is enforcing a 5-day, 10-day or some other time limit, they reportedly call you to give you a gentle reminder to come in and register.  So, even if you busted the 5-days in the law before COVID, you didn't get your gun confiscated, and you damn sure didn't have to redo the PTA! 

I spoke to a senior officer this morning and he confirms everything Flapp says. While legally you have two days to register after you have picked up a weapon from a FFL dealer, this requirement is waived temporarily, BUT a clerk at HPD may call you after five days to remind you to come in to register the weapon. On Monday, Wednesday, and Friday, you have to wait in line to get a number and a time to show them the weapon. I have not tested the process on Tuesday or Thursday.
Since this is the first time I have registered a weapon, they have a process where you have to verify (by pointing into a box and pulling the trigger) that the weapon is empty. Visual inspection of the magazine and the chamber is not enough. Probably a good policy, since a military officer outlined a similar policy for entering a mess hall.

Do any indoor ranges in HI require you to show your HPD Firearms Registration form when you carry your own weapon into the place?

Do any indoor ranges in HI require you to show your HPD Firearms Registration form when you carry your own weapon into the place?

Not on Oahu.

Do any indoor ranges in HI require you to show your HPD Firearms Registration form when you carry your own weapon into the place?

The courts ruled that the state can't compel anyone who can't legally possess/own a firearm to register it.  If the owner tried to register a gun he illegally possesses, it would violate his 5th Amendment right against self incrimination.

Similarly, requiring anyone to show proof of registration would be forcing customers to incriminate themselves, whether for illegal firearm possession, or just for the crime of legally possessing an unregistered firearm.

In a nutshell, you can't be charged for not registering if you've already broken another gun law -- illegal possession.  But, if you acquired the gun legally, you can be charged for not registering.

Makes perfect sense to me!   

The courts ruled that the state can't compel anyone who can't legally possess/own a firearm to register it.  If the owner tried to register a gun he illegally possesses, it would violate his 5th Amendment right against self incrimination.

Similarly, requiring anyone to show proof of registration would be forcing customers to incriminate themselves, whether for illegal firearm possession, or just for the crime of legally possessing an unregistered firearm.

In a nutshell, you can't be charged for not registering if you've already broken another gun law -- illegal possession.  But, if you acquired the gun legally, you can be charged for not registering.

Makes perfect sense to me!   

I strongly encourage everyone to register.
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I know you need to go early and stand in line to get a registration appointment. Where do you park?  Isn’t the parking structure closed early in the morning?

I know you need to go early and stand in line to get a registration appointment. Where do you park?  Isn’t the parking structure closed early in the morning?

There's parking in the C&C municipal lot across Alapai St.