Who is "we?" 

If we were staging US forces inside Ukraine manning offensive missiles under US control, maybe you'd have a point. 

Providing military and financial aid to assist in the Ukrainian war effort is different.

Yeah, we shouldn't be doing either, but I don't think "we" are launching missiles at Russia.

North Korea has entered the fray.

Poor North Korean troops. 

Pawns for Putin while North Korea's dick-tater gets fatter eating steak and lobster.  The only fatso in all of North Korea besides a couple of his cronies.

WW3 just around the corner.

N.Korea is going to have to be very selective on who they send as these troops will get to experience the modern world.  Can't wait for the 1st Russian to show them on their phone Phub. "welcome to the internet".

So if we can drop American bombs on Russian beaches, doesn't that mean Waikiki is fair game for retaliation?

It's clear that they are trying to start WW3 in order to cancel the election. This insanity needs to end.

Who is "we?" 

If we were staging US forces inside Ukraine manning offensive missiles under US control, maybe you'd have a point. 

Providing military and financial aid to assist in the Ukrainian war effort is different.

Yeah, we shouldn't be doing either, but I don't think "we" are launching missiles at Russia.

.  Yes, the person pressing the missile launch button must be Ukrainian, but all of the intelligence gathering and targeting does use US imperial satellites / GPS.

North Korea has entered the fray.

Poor North Korean troops.

Vlad doesn't buy your logic, and pretty much all of Hawaii is a military target.

How about the poor Ukrainians that have and are being genocided for the US empire's proxy war against Russia?

Far worse to come, how about the poor Chinese in Taiwan and the Filipinos that are about to begin their own genocide as moronically being manipulated to opening a new US imperial proxy war against China?

China won't invade Taiwan. It will cost them way too much money.

Totally agree, as China does not want war, but the US empire wants it.

Any declaration of independence by Taiwan and/or training/garrisoning of US imperial military personnel and missiles of significant size in Taiwan will trigger China's bottom line and war.

How about the poor Ukrainians that have and are being genocided for the US empire's proxy war against Russia?

Far worse to come, how about the poor Chinese in Taiwan and the Filipinos that are about to begin their own genocide as moronically being manipulated to opening a new US imperial proxy war against China?

U left out spook's too.

Flapp, if you think the already decimated trained to NATO standards Ukrainian army is behind the missiles currently used against Russia, you are insulting your own intelligence.  Yes, the person pressing the missile launch button must be Ukrainian, but all of the intelligence gathering and targeting does use US imperial satellites / GPS.

Since there is no way the US empire will allow the Ukrainians to access and use those systems freely, it is most surely US imperial military personnel that are doing those tasks prior to the proxy Ukrainian pressing the launch button.  Hence, based on this reality, the US empire is indeed just as responsible for any Ukrainian missile launch on the sovereign territories of Russia.

Taiwan has already declared themselves independent of the CCP/China for many years now.

The US won't garrison a large amount of troops in Taiwan either because if China were to attack, missiles can do a lot of damage to said garrisoned troops. So the US would first reduce this risk of this, then put boots on the ground.

Based on my personal experience working alongside foreign nationals in a foreign Middle Eastern country, even when the US is training the other nation's military using our own weapons systems and platforms until they can acquire their own, there's aways at least one liaison from the host nation who has the final word on whether or not they can engage, much like we did in Korea and Vietnam.   

No sovereign nation is going to risk allowing the US to run the show when the consequences to international relations and security can be catastrophic.

I was part of the ELF-ONE training mission in Saudi Arabia before the first Gulf War.  Our AWACS missions aways had a liaison aboard in contact with his chain of command dictating to our units where and how we were allowed to operate. 

If you want to pretend you insulting my intelligence is actually me doing it, then you're the one insulting your own intelligence.

Maybe get some personal military experience operating in foreign countries before making sh#t up.

The US empire knows that Trump will probably win the 2024 presidential election and will put a huge roadblock on the plans to continue the proxy war against Russia and the start-up of a new proxy war with China.  Unfortunately, the plans for WWIII have already been decided by the Power Okole and Trump better use his own private security 24/7 from now on and throughout his next term in office.

First of all, I think it is safe to say that most Russians hate the US empire; hence, I don't think there are or will be in the near future any real benevolent diplomatic relations between the US empire and Russia.

Second, I don't make shit up as I also know and consult a number of people who served in the US imperial military in varying capacities.  Hence, are you saying Ukrainians have security clearance and can freely access US imperial satellites and GPS to assist in their targeting of US imperial supplied missiles against Russia?

Quote from: Kuleana on Today at 08:46:12 AM
.  Yes, the person pressing the missile launch button must be Ukrainian, but all of the intelligence gathering and targeting does use US imperial satellites / GPS.