They already do some of these things. Warnings, citations, and arrests for things like tents in a park or on the sidewalk.

They also have city crews which go around and pick up the items the homeless people have like tents and shopping carts and junk. They hold onto the items for something like 30 days before they are allowed to dispose of them.

I have heard the same complaints about homeless people not wanting to follow the rules. No drug use, no drinking, you have to do some chores, etc.


One idea I had as a first step was to tell them that they have to limit their possessions to a backpack and anything else gets confiscated. That way you don't have mounds of stuff. Fit your one man tent in the backpack and take it with you. Once the homeless get used to that limitation then take the next step of prohibiting tents of any kind on sidewalks and parks. If they violate then they either go to shelters or they get arrested. We shouldn't and can't make being homeless illegal but we shouldn't make it easy.

I watched a documentary about homeless in Japan that was very interesting. They had a much lower level of homelessness because of two main reasons: No veterans with mental health issues and very low drug use. On top of that, Japanese people don't give handouts so the homeless don't bother begging. They also keep much cleaner, I have seen their encampments along the river under bridges and they are visible but not such an eye sore like here.

The homeless that refuse rehabilitation and shelters ship them to remote islands that have sustainability (food and water by catchment, hunting, gathering, fishing, farming, etc.)

Make sure the islands are far from shipping lanes so they don’t come back like the movie castaway.

Every two years check if anyone changes their minds and want to return as productive citizens again.

Read an article about how Japan deals with the mentally ill.  Culturally, it's a spot on the family name to allow anyone who's sick to be on the streets.  Housing and treatment is paid by the individual or their family.  One thing japan does not do is PAY the homeless to be homeless.  They don't have the layers upon layers of government handouts the US does.

Originally, these handouts were for the truly needy.  Now they are viewed as legal entitlements.  To pay one so they can subsist on the streets means you must pay all.

Churches and charities used to feed the homeless.  Now it's the entire tax-paying society.

This problem isn't going away as long as we give out handouts like candy.

I agree but try to explain that to the Democrat idiots that run this state. You have better luck talking to a pile of rocks.

Your ideas merely treat the symptoms, not the cause.

It's a cottage industry.
I'd like to know how much of the money directly benefits the homeless. A lot of these organizations despite being "non profit" have directors, board members, execs that draw healthy salaries.

search youtube for "homeless industrial complex"...

Not so. I think part of the problem is that if you make being a bum too easy it is like incentivizing it. If we make a behavior more attractive then we are more likely to have more of it. By making being homeless less attractive you stand to reduce it. Not every bum will go out and get a job but some will. California doesn't have a homeless problem simply because of their mild weather.

So while not a comprehensive solution, it would address some of the cause.

I agree with you on the mental health institutions.

this guys' videos are pretty amazing...

Not so. I think part of the problem is that if you make being a bum too easy it is like incentivizing it. If we make a behavior more attractive then we are more likely to have more of it. By making being homeless less attractive you stand to reduce it. Not every bum will go out and get a job but some will. California doesn't have a homeless problem simply because of their mild weather.

So while not a comprehensive solution, it would address some of the cause.

I agree with you on the mental health institutions.

It's a cottage industry.
I'd like to know how much of the money directly benefits the homeless. A lot of these organizations despite being "non profit" have directors, board members, execs that draw healthy salaries.