HIFICO lawsuit by their lawyers Alan Beck and Kevin O'Grady

HIFICO is also a plaintiff on behalf their members and members who hold a CCW.

This isn't challenging the entire SB1230 or all the sensitive places, just the below:

1) Any building or office owned, leased, or used by the state or county and it's parking lots

2) Any restaurant serving alcohol and it's parking lot

3) Any beach, park and it's parking lot

4) Any bank and it's parking lot

5) THE AUTOMATIC BAN ON ALL PRIVATE PROPERTY


I know some may ask why not go for it all.  Well it will take much more resources to go for every sensitive place. Another law firm wanted $100K up front just to start a lawsuit.  Trust HIFICO and the lawyers who have lead us this far with all their wins.  Also there is a possibility that the lawyers will only get paid if the lawsuit is won or settled. See the home sick sailor where the state/county are ordered to pay $130,000.  This would mean the lawyers are working for "free" until the payment if the suit is won/settled.  And any additional cost like paying experts or researchers, travel expenses,  will have to be paid for by the plaintiffs. HIFICO is paying much of this. An example of this is the Abbott vs. Lopez Mag Ban lawsuit, they had to raise funds for their expert historian.


TRO filed. This I'm unclear about, if it's granted, then would it apply to all HIFICO CCW members?  Like how the FPC injunction awarded applies to all FPC members for the pistol brace.

Initial hearing is on Wednesday 6/28

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HIFICO  Membership

https://hificoshop.com/pages/membership

Thank you HIFICO for all your hard works for our 2A community. I just sent the membership link to my friends.

Does it matter where I can carry if they still haven’t issued my permit 120 days after I applied? 

Does it matter where I can carry if they still haven’t issued my permit 120 days after I applied?

if the penalty for carrying without a license is the same as having one and carrying in a sensitive place, I'd say you're good.

 

https://www.kitv.com/video/news/despite-recent-spate-of-violence-in-west-oahu-gun-rights-activists-file-2nd-amendment-lawsuit/video_5282f212-19c7-5660-91d5-2713a9f18d08.html


The media left out again "all private property".

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if the penalty for carrying without a license is the same as having one and carrying in a sensitive place, I'd say you're good.

 

He isnt wrong.

Idk penalty for no ccw, but penalty for sensitive place is a miscdemenor and not a felony. But idk if u still lose ur 2a right.

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He isnt wrong.

Idk penalty for no ccw, but penalty for sensitive place is a miscdemenor and not a felony. But idk if u still lose ur 2a right.

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Carrying concealed without a license or other lawful exception constitutes a violation of [§134-25]  Place to keep pistol or revolver; penalty. and is a class B felony.

https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol03_Ch0121-0200D/HRS0134/HRS_0134-0025.htm

You make your choice and you take your chances.

He isnt wrong.

Idk penalty for no ccw, but penalty for sensitive place is a miscdemenor and not a felony. But idk if u still lose ur 2a right.

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As of July 1st, ANY firearm related criminal offense makes you a prohibited person for 20 years.

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My point is it's hard for me to give a shit about what places are prohibited when my application is being denied indefinitely.  I applied 2 weeks after Bruen and I'm well aware that I'm getting fucked.

As of July 1st, ANY firearm related criminal offense makes you a prohibited person for 20 years.

At the rate society is deteriorating I would be surprised if our current configuration of state government lasts another 20 years

My point is it's hard for me to give a shit about what places are prohibited when my application is being denied indefinitely.  I applied 2 weeks after Bruen and I'm well aware that I'm getting fucked.

128 days and counting… from my second application, after they added the additional hoops to jump through.  I think my first application (shortly after Bruen) ended up in file 13.

My point is it's hard for me to give a shit about what places are prohibited when my application is being denied indefinitely.  I applied 2 weeks after Bruen and I'm well aware that I'm getting fucked.

If you applied 2 weeks after Bruen (June/July 22) then your app won't be processed because you didn't complete the additional requirements under the chiefs new rules.

128 days and counting… from my second application, after they added the additional hoops to jump through.  I think my first application (shortly after Bruen) ended up in file 13.

Acording to the AG"s report, only 6 apps "processed" in 22. So maybe all the denials or file 13's will be in the 23 AG's report.

As of July 1st, ANY firearm related criminal offense makes you a prohibited person for 20 years.

I wonder who's going to get screwed first. Someone makes an honest mistake and is charged with a misdemeanor. They take a guilty plea deal, "if you plead guilty, no jail time and no fines". Until they go to reclaim their guns and are told the can never get them back or buy any new ones.

I hope an injunction is granted which would make the above locations law moot until the hearing is completed.  But I don't have confidence in HI's judges being honest.  The state will probably bring up Kingdom of Hawaii law, which is what they said during testimonies when trying to explain history and tradition. However, this wouldn't apply as HI wasn't a state.  This shows that HI has nothing even though they stated "the AG"s office worked with a supreme court experienced lawyer to create the bill and factored in Bruen's history and tradition".  Lets see how corrupt a judge will be to allow this argument.

But at the same time NJ is anti 2a and their judge granted a partial injunction 2 weeks ago or so.  IDK if this judge is honest or not.

If you applied 2 weeks after Bruen (June/July 22) then your app won't be processed because you didn't complete the additional requirements under the chiefs new rules.

I applied again in Feb after taking the approved class. I’ve jumped through every hoop.

I applied again in Feb after taking the approved class. I’ve jumped through every hoop.

Did you bring malasadas or coco puffs when submitting your application?