Former President Trump, shot on stage at a rally (Read 32092 times)

changemyoil66

Re: Former President Trump, shot on stage at a rally
« Reply #60 on: July 16, 2024, 12:20:40 PM »
So where did the ladder come from?  I mean, was he walking around with it and his rifle? 

astroboy

Re: Former President Trump, shot on stage at a rally
« Reply #61 on: July 16, 2024, 02:01:30 PM »
He doubled down on what he said.  He claimed he's not engaged in that rhetoric, but Trump is.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/biden-defends-bullseye-remark-about-trump-during-nbc-interview-with-lester-holt-i-didn-t-say-crosshairs/ar-BB1q2dE9

The man who can't put a sentence together that expresses a coherent thought is lecturing on the nuance between "target" and "crosshairs" -- and crosshairs was never brought up in the question.  His argument is that Trump said stuff, too.

Crosshairs .... target .... a distinction without a difference.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/just-in-biden-defends-saying-put-trump-in-a-bullseye-adding-i-didn-t-say-crosshairs/ar-BB1q2mNH


There goes Joe Biden doubling down on stupid again. It is obvious Joe and his handlers have no concern for the good of the country.
I had hope that Joe would just once do the right thing, but that is not possible. 

Kuleana

Re: Former President Trump, shot on stage at a rally
« Reply #62 on: July 16, 2024, 05:05:11 PM »
A cynical man would say this is what happens when a deep state run White House is in charge of the people providing security for the man they helped lose an election once already.
Do you share the same view as what you referenced a cynical man would say in the Trump shooting event in your post above?

For if you believe in a deep state running the US empire, I quote the following:


Apparently what actually happened based on observable events and what you seem to believe happened are not in the same realm of possibility.


And, if you subscribe to such deep state beliefs:


Now you've just confirmed you're hallucinating all on your own.  That's much worse.

Please seek professional help before you've completely checked out.

 :crazy:

Kuleana

Re: Former President Trump, shot on stage at a rally
« Reply #63 on: July 16, 2024, 05:11:58 PM »
This was an inside job, They've tried for years to "get him" starting with libel and slander. That failed, so they tried racism. That failed. They escalated it to the corrupt judicial system. Going after his "friends"/allies first. They still had nothing. So then they went after him in the judicial system. They still had nothing, so they had to change the law, find a corrupt DA and judge in a corrupt state. He still was beating them and the outcome they wanted wasn't a "slam dunk". So what happened is the only logical next evolution.

Points below:

1) The SS use layers of protection. Each team is responsible for their sectors.  As you saw with the SS sniper on the roof, due to the scope he has, he's for 400m+ engagements. Which is why you see him have to raise his head to located a 150m threat and then reposition his rifle.

2) Multiple people called out guy on roof with rifle and nothing was done to address it in an urgent matter.  They let him get into position. There's rumors that a stand down order was given. Even if this is true, it's the duty of the counter sniper to disobey and engage. I mean, it's not like a random guy is walking around. A guy with a rifle is getting into a shooting position.

3) There are a lot of female SS for a former president and the top candidate.  DEI hires, since the head of the SS did state that she wants more women in the SS. Nevermind we want just good people, but it has to also be women.  You see 1 fail to holster her weapon multiple times. She then gave up. And they were also in panic mode when around his SUV. This is not SOP for the SS. They are supposed to take control of the situation and remain calm.  . A female SS agent who is a whole head shorter than the P. I mean, I'm sure there's supposed to be some height requirment depending on who the P is. You see her try to cover him and his entire head is exposed in her sector.  She then bends down to pick up his hat and exposing his entire body. I've seen older films of Carter and Reagan and they were much more professional.

4) Once Trump was covered by the SS when he hit the floor, the media boosted the mic. You hear trump ask for his shoes. I heard no SS voices. "Sir, we will get your shoes later". this is important because someone who was just shot may not be thinking clearly.  Once he can walk, they allowed him to remain on stage for way to long. A 223 will penetrate at least 1 agent and hit the P. Any higher caliber round would def penetrate multiple agents and hit the P. Trump wanted to stay on stage, but as the detail, you need to push his ass off stage to safety. Regardless if the radio said the shooter is down. What if there's more than 1, or that was an error. Once he's standing, he should have been off that stage in 2 seconds.  The reaction time was also a little slow once the first shot broke. Within 1-2 seconds, agents should have been on stage.

5) Back to the SUV, it should have left immediately. There should have been a clear exit path.

6) Why was the only structures that close left unsecure?  Local PD could have been patrolling it if SS resourses are too low.

7) This was the 2nd time Trump asked for more security but was denied. The 1st time was on J6 and Pelosi denied it.

Seems like the only guy who did his job was the sniper with the big ass scope. He broke off his sector as no one was watching the 150m roof top. Re-position his rifle and take the shot.

I had this discussion with EEF a few days ago, and it seems like his detail was the JV squad.  I think this was intentional as to give the shooter time and the best odds of success.  The various government agencies have been weaponized against Trump for years. The SS is no different.  But in the end, no one will be held accountable and face any sort of punishment.

I"m not a religious person, but I do think a higher power had his back.  1/2 a second later and he would have not just been hit on the ear.  That head turn made all the difference. 

The sad part is that they will try again, but on a more covert way.  We are becoming more and more of a communist country as political opponents are being targeted by the government agencies.  The illusion that we have rights is present and the government can swoop in and take them away at any moment. "I'll fight them in court and win", but at what cost. The process is the punishment.


If you believe what happened to Trump was an inside job as I do, I offer you the following dissenting view I received for offering a similar alternate possibility of events:


Apparently what actually happened based on observable events and what you seem to believe happened are not in the same realm of possibility.
Now you've just confirmed you're hallucinating all on your own.  That's much worse.

Please seek professional help before you've completely checked out.

 :crazy:

ren

Re: Former President Trump, shot on stage at a rally
« Reply #64 on: July 16, 2024, 05:17:21 PM »
Deeds Not Words

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Former President Trump, shot on stage at a rally
« Reply #65 on: July 16, 2024, 06:21:44 PM »
Do you share the same view as what you referenced a cynical man would say in the Trump shooting event in your post above?

For if you believe in a deep state running the US empire, I quote the following:



And, if you subscribe to such deep state beliefs:

No.

So go troll someone else for a change.

 :popcorn:

p.s. The fact you spent so much time finding the quotes you used is flattering.  Most people (EEF) would have posted his opinion without putting in the effort.

 :shaka:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Former President Trump, shot on stage at a rally
« Reply #66 on: July 16, 2024, 06:28:39 PM »

If you believe what happened to Trump was an inside job as I do, I offer you the following dissenting view I received for offering a similar alternate possibility of events:

I offer you a comparison of the statements you tried to equate:

Inside job:  An event that required assistance by someone with proper authority -- someone who had knowledge and/or access required to execute the plan successfully.

Realm of what's possible:  Not this:
Quote
...fire off a few rounds of credible misses but deliver the actual warning shot that grazed Trump.

Two different animals.  The former is within the realm of what's possible.  The latter requires a complete suspension of disbelief given the facts reported.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Kuleana

Re: Former President Trump, shot on stage at a rally
« Reply #67 on: July 16, 2024, 07:03:51 PM »
The latter requires a complete suspension of disbelief given the facts reported.
What I posted was a possibility that I believed what happened.  I was flattered to see how that alternative view triggered your emotionally charged personal attacks to my post.   :thumbsup:

More information will surface, and I will be looking forward to what other alternative possibilities of what happened that you will most likely disagree in favor of the official narrative.   :shaka:

ren

Re: Former President Trump, shot on stage at a rally
« Reply #68 on: July 16, 2024, 07:24:33 PM »
Imperial inside job.

Deeds Not Words

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Former President Trump, shot on stage at a rally
« Reply #69 on: July 16, 2024, 07:35:04 PM »
What I posted was a possibility that I believed what happened.  I was flattered to see how that alternative view triggered your emotionally charged personal attacks to my post.   :thumbsup:

More information will surface, and I will be looking forward to what other alternative possibilities of what happened that you will most likely disagree in favor of the official narrative.   :shaka:

Did you watch the video of the shooting?

8 shots reported.  First 3 before Trump hit the deck.  5 more after.

You said you believed he "fire[d] off a few rounds of credible misses but deliver[ed] the actual warning shot that grazed Trump."

Which round was the warning shot?  Looked like #1.  I heard pop#1, then Trump grabbed his ear.  Your depiction doesn't fit the facts.

Trump turned his head quickly just a few millimeters, which was just enough to put his skull in the same line as the bullet.  If he hadn't, the round would have entered his skull around the top of the ear and penetrated his skull exiting the rear.

That must have been some skilled 20 year old using his father's rifle to only wing Trump through the ear while Trump's head was quickly turning.

Warning shot!


 :rofl:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

macsak

Re: Former President Trump, shot on stage at a rally
« Reply #70 on: July 16, 2024, 08:51:09 PM »
someone who claims to be "very astute" would not say "i truly believe" when posting "a possibility"

they would say "possibly" "could" "might" or something like that...

What I posted was a possibility that I believed what happened. 

Quote from: Kuleana on July 14, 2024, 09:06:16 AM

I truly believe the real shooter did exactly as ordered: fire off a few rounds of credible misses but deliver the actual warning shot that grazed Trump.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Former President Trump, shot on stage at a rally
« Reply #71 on: July 16, 2024, 09:07:46 PM »
someone who claims to be "very astute" would not say "i truly believe" when posting "a possibility"

they would say "possibly" "could" "might" or something like that...

Quote from: Kuleana on July 14, 2024, 09:06:16 AM

I truly believe the real shooter did exactly as ordered: fire off a few rounds of credible misses but deliver the actual warning shot that grazed Trump.

Just adding the phrase "real shooter" tells us all we need to know.

At least with JFK, the multiple shooter and magic bullet theories resulted in a death. 

I can't "believe" in a possibility that there was a "patsy" and a "real shooter", yet Trump was able to walk away ....

... unless Trump is The Highlander.

Hey, it's possible!
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

hvybarrels

Re: Former President Trump, shot on stage at a rally
« Reply #72 on: July 16, 2024, 10:15:12 PM »
Stop blaming lazy people. We didn’t do anything.

stangzilla

Re: Former President Trump, shot on stage at a rally
« Reply #73 on: July 17, 2024, 09:15:37 AM »

zippz

Re: Former President Trump, shot on stage at a rally
« Reply #74 on: July 17, 2024, 10:15:39 AM »
There's a conspiracy theory that Trump was grazed by a glass shard off the teleprompter instead of the bullet.  I'm like what difference would that make?  But they are so into the theory.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Former President Trump, shot on stage at a rally
« Reply #75 on: July 17, 2024, 10:29:04 AM »
There's a conspiracy theory that Trump was grazed by a glass shard off the teleprompter instead of the bullet.  I'm like what difference would that make?  But they are so into the theory.

These pics show the 2 teleprompter displays.  Both appear to be intact, and this is obviously after the shooting.

There are other photos online showing the screens from other angles after the shooting.  Same conclusion -- no broken prompter screens.

 :wacko:



The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

stangzilla

Re: Former President Trump, shot on stage at a rally
« Reply #76 on: July 17, 2024, 12:06:49 PM »

changemyoil66

Re: Former President Trump, shot on stage at a rally
« Reply #77 on: July 17, 2024, 02:17:08 PM »

If you believe what happened to Trump was an inside job as I do, I offer you the following dissenting view I received for offering a similar alternate possibility of events:

Your theory of a intentional graze to the ear isn't in the whelm of possibility, esp with his head movements. 

with all the hate on Trump, that would mean only 2 people would know about this, Trump and the shooter.  Any more than that and they run the risk of someone narcing, esp with the weaponized DOJ going after Trumps people.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Former President Trump, shot on stage at a rally
« Reply #78 on: July 17, 2024, 03:08:57 PM »
Your theory of a intentional graze to the ear isn't in the whelm of possibility, esp with his head movements. 

with all the hate on Trump, that would mean only 2 people would know about this, Trump and the shooter.  Any more than that and they run the risk of someone narcing, esp with the weaponized DOJ going after Trumps people.

Sometimes the only response to a nonsensical comment is, "Well, bless your heart."

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

drck1000

Re: Former President Trump, shot on stage at a rally
« Reply #79 on: July 17, 2024, 03:25:27 PM »
Or someone watching Crocodile Dundee and expect that level of accuracy to be easy. . .

Totally in the whelm (sic) of possibility. . .