Former President Trump, shot on stage at a rally (Read 32088 times)

drck1000

Re: Former President Trump, shot on stage at a rally
« Reply #100 on: July 19, 2024, 09:42:00 AM »
you did not say "not specifically target his ear"...
and that's one doozy of a "warning shot". . .

Can we get bigger quotes? Ya know, for "air quotes"?

Kuleana

Re: Former President Trump, shot on stage at a rally
« Reply #101 on: July 19, 2024, 09:49:37 AM »
At least that's a bit more realistic.

But the premise is still flawed cause an attempted assassination would help Trump win and increase his resolve.  I can see an idiot like that 20yr old shooter thinking that, but not some kind of mastermind high level organization.
Those that will vote for Trump will do so.  The Trump shooting does not necessarily mean Democratic voters will switch sides and vote for Trump, especially when Kennedy running as an independent is another viable option.  Moreover, there is no proof that Republican voters who also disklike Trump will vote for Trump now when an alternative like Kennedy is available as I mentioned above.

Based on this premise, although the Power Okole, Deep State, etc. will resort to cheating this November, Trump's chances of winning is still very real.  Hence, in my view, the Power Okole's only play before the election is to remind both Trump and Kennedy who really controls the US empire and that they can be both assassinated at any time if they win after the election should they not submit to their bidding.

QUIETShooter

Re: Former President Trump, shot on stage at a rally
« Reply #102 on: July 19, 2024, 10:21:43 AM »


Based on this premise, although the Power Okole, Deep State, etc. will resort to cheating this November, Trump's chances of winning is still very real.  Hence, in my view, the Power Okole's only play before the election is to remind both Trump and Kennedy who really controls the US empire and that they can be both assassinated at any time if they win after the election should they not submit to their bidding.

I heard Trump reached out to Kennedy.  Not sure how that panned out but that would be great if Trump is President and Kennedy is appointed to head the DOJ.

Whoo Hoo!  They can literally screw the Power Okole! :thumbsup:
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

zippz

Re: Former President Trump, shot on stage at a rally
« Reply #103 on: July 19, 2024, 10:35:06 AM »
and that's one doozy of a "warning shot". . .

Can we get bigger quotes? Ya know, for "air quotes"?

If Trump hired the shooter to miss him, he'd be fired for missing the miss.

changemyoil66

Re: Former President Trump, shot on stage at a rally
« Reply #104 on: July 19, 2024, 11:25:21 AM »
Allow me to clarify.
Based on my original post, I said the real shooter's primary mission was to fire warning shots at Trump and not specifically target his ear per se.  The fact a rifle round did in-fact grazed Trump's ear is in my view unintentional since killing Trump at this moment before the November election would only lead to possible civil war that the Power Okole, Deep State, etc. can't control its outcome and, hence, does not want.

One doesn't give warning shots that close. 12 inches in any direction is more than enough to factor in any unpredicted movements and still plausible.  And at that distance, unless you're shooting a 22 where the wind can cause the bullet to move left or right an easy 8 inches, you won't miss what you're aiming at.

Then add in that the intentional miss plan would need a dead body.  Or a manhunt will happen until someone is found.  And if they're found alive, they may talk eventually.  Add in that the SS lapse in security, basically, too many people would have to be in on the plan for warning shots.  So refer to my post about someone will eventually narc and expose everything.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Former President Trump, shot on stage at a rally
« Reply #105 on: July 19, 2024, 11:27:53 AM »
Why are you so quick to discredit anything that questions the official narrative regarding the Trump shooting?

Since I know you don't believe in the Deep State, Power Okole, etc., it's very flattering to see how much effort you put in your responses to my posts on this topic especially when you don't think the Trump shooting was an inside job.   :shaka:

Why am I so quick?

Because I don't stop to see what other conspiracy nuts are posting before I form an opinion on the available facts.

Either you believe the government agencies are incompetent and poorly run, or they are criminal masterminds who planned and executed a flawless "warning shot" through Trump's ear to make him decline the RNC nomination.

So which is it?  Can't have it both ways.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Former President Trump, shot on stage at a rally
« Reply #106 on: July 19, 2024, 11:37:59 AM »
Similar to macsak's thread on this issue, more potential evidence of discrediting a single shooter has surfaced.

Now, audio analysis suggests noise from Weapon A and Weapon B.


Wait a minute.

You post a video that is titled:
"Audio Analysis Is 100% Clear Trump& Crowd Were Shot At By Two Separate People - Peak Prosperity"
"TWO SHOOTERS CONFIRMED!"

And then you have the gall to post a plainly worded comment to that video:
"Now, audio analysis suggests noise from Weapon A and Weapon B."

I'm college educated, so BELIEVE me when i tell you there is a very significant difference between "suggests" and "Confirmed" as well as "100% Clear."

Even you don't believe the BS you're sharing here.

 :geekdanc:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

macsak

Re: Former President Trump, shot on stage at a rally
« Reply #107 on: July 19, 2024, 11:51:41 AM »
koolio just trying to equivocate so he/she doesn't get called out later for being wrong or moving goalposts...

Wait a minute.

You post a video that is titled:
"Audio Analysis Is 100% Clear Trump& Crowd Were Shot At By Two Separate People - Peak Prosperity"
"TWO SHOOTERS CONFIRMED!"

And then you have the gall to post a plainly worded comment to that video:
"Now, audio analysis suggests noise from Weapon A and Weapon B."

I'm college educated, so BELIEVE me when i tell you there is a very significant difference between "suggests" and "Confirmed" as well as "100% Clear."

Even you don't believe the BS you're sharing here.

 :geekdanc:

Kuleana

Re: Former President Trump, shot on stage at a rally
« Reply #108 on: July 19, 2024, 12:21:54 PM »
koolio just trying to equivocate so he/she doesn't get called out later for being wrong or moving goalposts...
If you want to make this personal with insults, please let me know as I would be happy to play.

Kuleana

Re: Former President Trump, shot on stage at a rally
« Reply #109 on: July 19, 2024, 12:30:25 PM »
One doesn't give warning shots that close. 12 inches in any direction is more than enough to factor in any unpredicted movements and still plausible.  And at that distance, unless you're shooting a 22 where the wind can cause the bullet to move left or right an easy 8 inches, you won't miss what you're aiming at.

Then add in that the intentional miss plan would need a dead body.  Or a manhunt will happen until someone is found.  And if they're found alive, they may talk eventually.  Add in that the SS lapse in security, basically, too many people would have to be in on the plan for warning shots.  So refer to my post about someone will eventually narc and expose everything.
I am surprised you are dwelling on my personal belief that the Trump shooting was more of a warning to Trump rather being a botched assassination attempt which is minor compared to the bigger picture. 

What the Trump shooting did show is that although the Power Okole has fired the first shots and missed, they have made clear that they are willing to go to any lengths to achieve their goals and will not make any mistakes if there is a next time.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Former President Trump, shot on stage at a rally
« Reply #110 on: July 19, 2024, 12:35:06 PM »
If you want to make this personal with insults, please let me know as I would be happy to play.

I guess Kuleana identifies as neither (non-binary) or both (gender-fluid).

It's so hard to keep up with all these changing identities nowadays.

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

macsak

Re: Former President Trump, shot on stage at a rally
« Reply #111 on: July 19, 2024, 12:37:00 PM »
since when is not wanting to misgender you an insult?

If you want to make this personal with insults, please let me know as I would be happy to play.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Former President Trump, shot on stage at a rally
« Reply #112 on: July 19, 2024, 12:38:29 PM »
I am surprised you are dwelling on my personal belief that the Trump shooting was more of a warning to Trump rather being a botched assassination attempt which is minor compared to the bigger picture. 

What the Trump shooting did show is that although the Power Okole has fired the first shots and missed, they have made clear that they are willing to go to any lengths to achieve their goals and will not make any mistakes if there is a next time.

WE are only "dwelling" on what you told us.

Are we supposed to address what you say you "truly believe," or only address other, more rational possibilities.

Don't toss out a conspiracy theory then expect us to ignore it.

"In the chaos that followed, the patsy may or may have not been allowed to fire the actual weapon, while the real shooter presumedly in a different location was to provide the warning and/or the death shot (though I don't believe the Power Okole wanted Trump dead).
« Last Edit: July 19, 2024, 12:50:33 PM by Flapp_Jackson »
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

macsak

Re: Former President Trump, shot on stage at a rally
« Reply #113 on: July 19, 2024, 12:38:51 PM »
"more of a warning"?
what happened to "i truly believe"???

I am surprised you are dwelling on my personal belief that the Trump shooting was more of a warning to Trump rather being a botched assassination attempt which is minor compared to the bigger picture. 

What the Trump shooting did show is that although the Power Okole has fired the first shots and missed, they have made clear that they are willing to go to any lengths to achieve their goals and will not make any mistakes if there is a next time.

Kuleana

Re: Former President Trump, shot on stage at a rally
« Reply #114 on: July 19, 2024, 12:40:10 PM »
I heard Trump reached out to Kennedy.  Not sure how that panned out but that would be great if Trump is President and Kennedy is appointed to head the DOJ.

Whoo Hoo!  They can literally screw the Power Okole! :thumbsup:
I think both Trump and Kennedy want to expose the oligarchs that control the US empire especially now both having experiences they can personally relate regarding the issue of assassination.  It is very ironic you mention having Trump and Kennedy being on the same side as John and Bob Kennedy were two individuals that refused to kowtow to the Power Okole during their time and both having to pay with their lives in doing so.

I just pray history does not repeat itself. 

macsak

Re: Former President Trump, shot on stage at a rally
« Reply #115 on: July 19, 2024, 12:43:36 PM »
cough*mansplain*cough

I think both Trump and Kennedy want to expose the oligarchs that control the US empire especially now both having experiences they can personally relate regarding the issue of assassination.  It is very ironic you mention having Trump and Kennedy being on the same side as John and Bob Kennedy were two individuals that refused to kowtow to the Power Okole during their time and both having to pay with their lives in doing so.

I just pray history does not repeat itself.

Kuleana

Re: Former President Trump, shot on stage at a rally
« Reply #116 on: July 19, 2024, 12:44:56 PM »
I guess Kuleana identifies as neither (non-binary) or both (gender-fluid).
I believe in only two genders, but I guess you recognize other possibilities based on your post.   :geekdanc:

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Former President Trump, shot on stage at a rally
« Reply #117 on: July 19, 2024, 12:45:35 PM »
...

What the Trump shooting did show is that although the Power Okole has fired the first shots and missed, they have made clear that they are willing to go to any lengths to achieve their goals and will not make any mistakes if there is a next time.

I'll "dwell" on this statement for now.

First of all, i don't see any "clear" description of who "they" might be.

Second, was the first time a "mistake?"  Are you saying it was a mistake now?  Seems like that's what you're implying when you say, "...will not make any mistakes if there is a next time."

Third, I'm not sure what "goals" you say "they are willing to go to any lengths to achieve."  If the goal was to give Trump a massive jump in the election polls, I'm not sure you are in tune with what's going on here.  If you believe the goal was to make Trump quit the campaign, I don't think you been paying attention to who Trump is nor what motivates him.

Please, be clear -- as clear as "they" have been to you.  Was the miss intentional and a warning, intended to get him to quit, or was it a mistake which you believe won't happen "the next time."

I need a road map to follow your "logic" on this one.
« Last Edit: July 19, 2024, 12:52:31 PM by Flapp_Jackson »
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Former President Trump, shot on stage at a rally
« Reply #118 on: July 19, 2024, 12:48:54 PM »
I believe in only two genders, but I guess you recognize other possibilities based on your post.   :geekdanc:

Good, so he/she is accurate in describing you.

Until you pick one or the other, that's the best we can do for you.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

changemyoil66

Re: Former President Trump, shot on stage at a rally
« Reply #119 on: July 19, 2024, 01:57:34 PM »
I am surprised you are dwelling on my personal belief that the Trump shooting was more of a warning to Trump rather being a botched assassination attempt which is minor compared to the bigger picture. 

What the Trump shooting did show is that although the Power Okole has fired the first shots and missed, they have made clear that they are willing to go to any lengths to achieve their goals and will not make any mistakes if there is a next time.

It's because the power okele tried to assassinate trump.  Not give him a warning.  They've tried and failed in other ways to get him off the ballot.  This was only the next logical evolution to their attempts.  Read my initial posting.  Trump was very lucky.