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Aisos.  Might need micrometer.

More tidbits on the shooting.

Silva had a unregistered AK47 and verbally threatened to kill them all.  I heard that Silva was shot in the back while walking away, I presume with the rifle in hand.  Silva's statement would lead me to believe the threat wasn't over and helping to justify the self-defense shooting.  An 8 round clip in a 9mm Glock leads me to believe it was a Glock 43 with a extended 7 round magazine.  I have that gun, and it's difficult to shoot accurately so I can see why he missed.  A small gun better suited for CCW than for home defense and not something Id feel confident using against an AK47.  Reminder to keep spare mags with you.


Waianae man who killed charging neighbor: ‘I going stop him’
https://www.staradvertiser.com/2024/09/25/hawaii-news/man-who-killed-charging-neighbor-i-going-stop-him/

"Silva was driving a front-end loader stacked with fuel drums and was armed with an unlicensed AK-47 assault rifle and handgun."

"“I thought he was done. Then he started going again, so I ran upstairs to grab my gun,” Keamo-Carnate said, noting the registered firearm was a 9 mm Glock handgun."

"“He (Silva) was saying, ‘They like come to my house. They think I playing. I going kill ’em all,’” said Rishard Keamo-Carnate"

"Keamo-Carnate emptied his eight-round clip and went back upstairs to grab more ammunition and turn off the lights in the home to make it harder for Silva to identify targets. After reloading, Keamo-­Carnate saw Silva and opened fire a second time. Silva died of a gunshot wound to his torso."

This self-defense incident highlights why 10 rounds may not be enough to stop a threat. Even people who feel they can handle whatever is thrown at them can run out of ammo during a gunfight, and that's what happened to Mr. Keamo-Carnate. It's a good thing he was not pinned down and was able to run back into his home to pick up more ammo, otherwise he may have been shot as well.

It is possible his magazines only held 8 so he used what he had. If there wasn't the 10 round magazine capacity law, he could have legally purchased one that held more rounds. This would have put him in the better position of having more rounds in the fight, ending the threat sooner.

This incident shows more than just a clear-cut case of self-defense. It also supports how having 10 plus round magazines can save lives.
 

Aisos.  Might need micrometer.

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This self-defense incident highlights why 10 rounds may not be enough to stop a threat. Even people who feel they can handle whatever is thrown at them can run out of ammo during a gunfight, and that's what happened to Mr. Keamo-Carnate. It's a good thing he was not pinned down and was able to run back into his home to pick up more ammo,
This incident shows more than just a clear-cut case of self-defense. It also supports how having 10 plus round magazines can save lives.

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I notice that large capacity mags also tend to become less reliable if a 10rnd block is installed.

Aren't you Asian?

I get a 2 inch handicap.  Thanks for offering.

This self-defense incident highlights why 10 rounds may not be enough to stop a threat. Even people who feel they can handle whatever is thrown at them can run out of ammo during a gunfight, and that's what happened to Mr. Keamo-Carnate. It's a good thing he was not pinned down and was able to run back into his home to pick up more ammo, otherwise he may have been shot as well.

It is possible his magazines only held 8 so he used what he had. If there wasn't the 10 round magazine capacity law, he could have legally purchased one that held more rounds. This would have put him in the better position of having more rounds in the fight, ending the threat sooner.

This incident shows more than just a clear-cut case of self-defense. It also supports how having 10 plus round magazines can save lives.

They do make 10rders for the G43, if that's what he had. But they're often sold out. This is why I ruled the G43 out as my CCW gun. The G43X comes with 10rders from Glock.  I felt that owning a modern handgun that's not a revolver and it coming with a factory 6rd mag is a waste. There is no way to know whether he attempted to get these 10rd mags or not, unless someone knows him and ask.  Cause if he did have the HIVE +2 extentions, which are in stock more often, then that would explain things.

I wonder how many he shot after he reloaded. Cause if it was only 2 more rounds, then the anti gunners will say "see, 10rds is enough".

Free Version of Star story.

https://news.yahoo.com/news/waianae-man-killed-charging-neighbor-213300161.html

They do make 10rders for the G43, if that's what he had. But they're often sold out. This is why I ruled the G43 out as my CCW gun. The G43X comes with 10rders from Glock.  I felt that owning a modern handgun that's not a revolver and it coming with a factory 6rd mag is a waste. There is no way to know whether he attempted to get these 10rd mags or not, unless someone knows him and ask.  Cause if he did have the HIVE +2 extentions, which are in stock more often, then that would explain things.

I wonder how many he shot after he reloaded. Cause if it was only 2 more rounds, then the anti gunners will say "see, 10rds is enough".

The problem with that 'logic' is it flies in the face of their reason for limiting mag capacities.

Gun hater:  We need smaller capacity mags so criminals and mass shooters have to reload, giving someone enough time to stop them.

Same gun hater:  We don't see a problem with limiting magazine capacity.  If 10 rds isn't enough in a self defense situation, it doesn't take more than a second or two to reload another mag.

Totally conflicting rationales -- one saying limits will prevent continued firing for criminals, and one saying limits won't interfere with continued firing for crime victims.

I get that you were talking about the total rounds fired equaled the 10 rd mag limit, but that's just this one event, and it ignores that he would actually have 16rds between 2 mags, not 10. 

To argue that 8rds in 1 mag + 2rds in 1 mag = 1 x 10rd mag would suggest that 2 x 10rd mags = 1 x 20rd mag.  So, if I have 1 x 10rd mag, that's okay with them, but what if i have a spare 10rd mag?  Why is that not as illegal as a 20rd mag?

Another way to look at it is, if the legal limit was 8rds, and that's why he had 8rd mags, the 10rds he theoretically fired would negate the limit completely.  The bad guy didn't kill him between reloads, so the "vulnerable during reloads" argument would have been debunked here.

The whole mag limit debate is ridiculous.  No matter what they say about it, it's unrealistic and wrong.

The problem with that 'logic' is it flies in the face of their reason for limiting mag capacities.

Gun hater:  We need smaller capacity mags so criminals and mass shooters have to reload, giving someone enough time to stop them.

Same gun hater:  We don't see a problem with limiting magazine capacity.  If 10 rds isn't enough in a self defense situation, it doesn't take more than a second or two to reload another mag.

Totally conflicting rationales -- one saying limits will prevent continued firing for criminals, and one saying limits won't interfere with continued firing for crime victims.

I get that you were talking about the total rounds fired equaled the 10 rd mag limit, but that's just this one event, and it ignores that he would actually have 16rds between 2 mags, not 10. 

To argue that 8rds in 1 mag + 2rds in 1 mag = 1 x 10rd mag would suggest that 2 x 10rd mags = 1 x 20rd mag.  So, if I have 1 x 10rd mag, that's okay with them, but what if i have a spare 10rd mag?  Why is that not as illegal as a 20rd mag?

Another way to look at it is, if the legal limit was 8rds, and that's why he had 8rd mags, the 10rds he theoretically fired would negate the limit completely.  The bad guy didn't kill him between reloads, so the "vulnerable during reloads" argument would have been debunked here.

The whole mag limit debate is ridiculous.  No matter what they say about it, it's unrealistic and wrong.

Typical liberal gun owner speak. The same ones that are color blind to yellow

the answer is more money

https://www.khon2.com/local-news/west-oahus-public-health-crisis-sustained-violence/

“This is very personal for me,” said Alicia Higa, WCCHC chief health equity officer, “I was born and raised on this coast and what has unfolded in our community has broken my heart.”

“Treat this as a crisis, not as the new normal or this is just a one off. This is sustained violence,” said WCCHC executive vice president Nicholas Hughey. “That, in essence, makes it a crisis and when we’re in a crisis, then all the conventional sort of approach ahs to go out and we have to approach it as a crisis.”

WCCHC put forth a roadmap with a focus on mental health trauma and resilience counseling training and requested $500,000 from the City and State to support the initiative.

a "health equity officer" ? they have lots of money to hire all these positions...a nurse would be mo bettah

the answer is more money

https://www.khon2.com/local-news/west-oahus-public-health-crisis-sustained-violence/

“This is very personal for me,” said Alicia Higa, WCCHC chief health equity officer, “I was born and raised on this coast and what has unfolded in our community has broken my heart.”

“Treat this as a crisis, not as the new normal or this is just a one off. This is sustained violence,” said WCCHC executive vice president Nicholas Hughey. “That, in essence, makes it a crisis and when we’re in a crisis, then all the conventional sort of approach ahs to go out and we have to approach it as a crisis.”

WCCHC put forth a roadmap with a focus on mental health trauma and resilience counseling training and requested $500,000 from the City and State to support the initiative.

a "health equity officer" ? they have lots of money to hire all these positions...a nurse would be mo bettah

I looked up what health equity officer means.  To me, the explanation was like a word salad from kamala.

It also explained what equity is compared to equality.  I understand it but can see where it can be exploited and misused by people with an agenda or sense of entitlement.



Yeah, at least we all know what a nurse is and does.

too much cardio. How about boto measuring contest?

I down for a video game race. Original Mario Kart?

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You got a permit for that assault micrometer?