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Title: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on June 23, 2016, 08:28:59 AM
What are your preferences for knives?

General question as I have a buddy in TN that makes custom knives.  He started producing and selling a couple of years ago and he's gotten quite good.  His blades are good quality, from what I can tell, and they seem decently priced.  He's started making "Damascus" blades and I've always meant to get him started on one for me.  I have a few now, but they were ones that he either made on his own or I bought from an idea from another.  While I want a custom knife, I can't seem to settle on what I'd want.  I generally see knives for other people and I'm like "wow!  that's a cool blade!"

I also understand that the blade shape depends on use, and frankly I don't use knives that much in my daily routine.  Even my pocket knife is pretty much a box opener.  Anyways, I just wanted to get ideas on what some people's preferences are.

Here are a few that I've thought about as starting point for a custom blade.


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Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: oldfart on June 23, 2016, 09:11:58 AM
For edc, I keep going back to Benchmade knives usually a small folding tanto style blade.
For cooking, I use a japanese vegetable knife with holes in it.
I also use Cutco knives for a lot of kitchen tasks.. I Especially love the sandwich maker.
It's shaped like a putty knife with a serrated edge.
It cuts your meat and veggies and spreads your butter and mayo too.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: eyeeatingfish on June 23, 2016, 11:50:17 AM
I have about 4 folding knives with 3"-4" blades that I rotate as my everyday carry.

I don't usually carry a fixed blade unless hiking or something. I have been thinking of getting a smaller fixed blade to put on my maxpedition fanny pack though. Haven't settled on the design.

I do knife work as a hobby and side business. Folders are above my current level of experience but when I want a fixed blade, I generally make my own now.

There are literally thousands of options for you. Size, use, price, etc. Set out some specifics to narrow the conversation.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on June 23, 2016, 01:12:05 PM
For edc, I keep going back to Benchmade knives usually a small folding tanto style blade.
For cooking, I use a japanese vegetable knife with holes in it.
I also use Cutco knives for a lot of kitchen tasks.. I Especially love the sandwich maker.
It's shaped like a putty knife with a serrated edge.
It cuts your meat and veggies and spreads your butter and mayo too.
For folders, I have all sorts, but I prefer Benchmade and occasionally have Kershaw.   I have Spyderco and CRKT as well and some cheaper ones like Buck and the like.

Didn't think about kitchen knives, but I have Global, Henkel and Wustoff. 

I have a couple of Cutco knives that I got suckered into when a buddy was a sales rep.  They make good knives though.

As for blade types, I tend to stay away from tanto shapes mainly due to humbug in sharpening.  Same with serrated blades and blades with concave sections. 
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on June 23, 2016, 01:15:01 PM
I have about 4 folding knives with 3"-4" blades that I rotate as my everyday carry.

I don't usually carry a fixed blade unless hiking or something. I have been thinking of getting a smaller fixed blade to put on my maxpedition fanny pack though. Haven't settled on the design.

I do knife work as a hobby and side business. Folders are above my current level of experience but when I want a fixed blade, I generally make my own now.

There are literally thousands of options for you. Size, use, price, etc. Set out some specifics to narrow the conversation.
I don't carry a fixed blade on me, though one of my best friend's uncle had one on him at all times when we were in Vegas.  It was probably a 4-5" blade, so not a Crocodile Dundee "now that's a knife", but a decent sized one. 

My buddy who makes knives said the same thing about folders.  Though I am not really interested in folders. 

Options are also largely driven by use.  If I still lived in WA, I'd have much more uses when I would hike and camp to fish and stuff.  Nowadays, I don't really have a "need" for a fixed blade, but since when has that stopped a guy from wanting one and buying one? 
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: Q on June 24, 2016, 01:19:03 AM
Knife on the right

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Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: Heavies on June 24, 2016, 01:35:23 AM
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My EDC is a Bradford M390 steel fixed.  I use my knife a lot at work and borders on abuse.  The steel is what you want to look into.  This M390 holds an edge.  I used to carry cheaper knives, but this make life so much easier. No need for constant resharpening when you get something in a high quality knife steel.

It is not a large blade.  small enough to not scare the sheeple, but still effective if needed.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: Q on June 24, 2016, 02:16:58 AM
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My EDC is a Bradford M390 steel fixed.  I use my knife a lot at work and borders on abuse.  The steel is what you want to look into.  This M390 holds an edge.  I used to carry cheaper knives, but this make life so much easier. No need for constant resharpening when you get something in a high quality knife steel.

It is not a large blade.  small enough to not scare the sheeple, but still effective if needed.

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Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on June 24, 2016, 08:47:59 AM
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The blades that I bought so far from my friend in TN.  The first was the bottom one that I bought when he was closing some blades out to buy more material for the next batch.  I wanted something in that general size.  It has a nice weight and balance to it, but I don't care for the concave portion of the belly of the blade.  This was one of his early blades and while it's good, he's gotten WAY better.

The next is the one with the greenish G10 scales.  It's supposed to be a horizontal belt carry "neck knife". 

All come VERY sharp!  I put the Kershaw Blur in there for size reference. 
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on June 24, 2016, 08:48:47 AM
Knife on the right


That might make your pants "hang low".   ;D
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: Heavies on June 24, 2016, 08:50:24 AM
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:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on June 24, 2016, 08:51:41 AM

My EDC is a Bradford M390 steel fixed.  I use my knife a lot at work and borders on abuse.  The steel is what you want to look into.  This M390 holds an edge.  I used to carry cheaper knives, but this make life so much easier. No need for constant resharpening when you get something in a high quality knife steel.

It is not a large blade.  small enough to not scare the sheeple, but still effective if needed.
I believe you posted that blade before.  I have a similar size EDCC one, but I like the pointed profile of that one better.  I also don't mind spending more on good steel.  I've had cheap dive knives that you'd need a damn diamond file to get any material off and then it wouldn't hold an edge for crap. 

So you carry this fixed "around town" or just for work? 
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on June 24, 2016, 09:42:16 AM
Here's one that he made for one of my buddies.  It's a pretty big knife! 

As mentioned above, I'm not a fan of the concave section of the blade.  The maker also likes jimping of all sorts of different patterns.  I'm personally not a fan of the more elaborate jimping, but some for grip near the base of the blade is cool. 

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Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: eyeeatingfish on June 24, 2016, 11:50:37 AM
Here is one I made recently for my tac vest. A little over 4" blade. I could EDC it but I might make another fixed, slightly smaller, and with a more traditional point.
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Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: Q on June 24, 2016, 12:58:35 PM
That might make your pants "hang low".   ;D

Nope, have a special belt just for it.

I just can't fit the belt at the moment, but in time I'll be right as rain.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on June 24, 2016, 01:04:49 PM
Here is one I made recently for my tac vest. A little over 4" blade. I could EDC it but I might make another fixed, slightly smaller, and with a more traditional point.

Is that like a chisel at the tip/end? 

That's an interesting configuration.  What is the intent/purpose for such a design?
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on June 24, 2016, 01:06:23 PM
Nope, have a special belt just for it.

I just can't fit the belt at the moment, but in time I'll be right as rain.
Maybe you could use a back scabbard.   ;D

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Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on June 24, 2016, 02:04:49 PM
custom knives are so expensive, I would hate to use them
I usually end up using my cheaper blades for edc and every day use
I'm always looking for that "next" knife
my most used EDC is a fox tactical assisted opener with flipper, pocket clip easily fits pockets and most of my belts, so its easy to carry and/or conceal

this is one of my favorites:  Boker Plus Valkyrie, about 1/4 inch blade thickness

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Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: Heavies on June 24, 2016, 02:12:29 PM
I believe you posted that blade before.  I have a similar size EDCC one, but I like the pointed profile of that one better.  I also don't mind spending more on good steel.  I've had cheap dive knives that you'd need a damn diamond file to get any material off and then it wouldn't hold an edge for crap. 

So you carry this fixed "around town" or just for work? 
Pretty much at all times that I have a belt on.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: Q on June 24, 2016, 02:15:46 PM
Maybe you could use a back scabbard.   ;D

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Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on June 24, 2016, 02:29:13 PM
custom knives are so expensive, I would hate to use them
I usually end up using my cheaper blades for edc and every day use
I'm always looking for that "next" knife
my most used EDC is a fox tactical assisted opener with flipper, pocket clip easily fits pockets and most of my belts, so its easy to carry and/or conceal

this is one of my favorites:  Boker Plus Valkyrie, about 1/4 inch blade thickness

I hear ya.  However, for me, it's almost a waste that I can't put some of these knives to good use.  There are guys that he's made blades for that live in North Dakota and Texas where they get good use for sure.  From stuff around their farms to skinners for hunting.  Back in WA, we would do some minor bushcrafting stuff, but not really here.  Heck, I haven't even gone camping since I moved back home. . .

That Boker is a nice one!  That's pretty close to what I've been thinking of with maybe the back section having a slightly longer straight section. 

I know "my guy" doesn't like doing hidden tang knives.  He'll do them, but he'll 1) probably get pissed at me for requesting (which isn't a bid deal) and 2) charge me more and maybe even more due to reason 1.  Haha.  I know he REALLY hates hollow grind blades. 
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on June 24, 2016, 02:32:56 PM
BOWIE DOESN'T APPROVE

 ;D :rofl:

K.  How about these?

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Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: RSN172 on June 24, 2016, 08:55:54 PM
I don't carry a fixed blade on me, though one of my best friend's uncle had one on him at all times when we were in Vegas.  It was probably a 4-5" blade, so not a Crocodile Dundee "now that's a knife", but a decent sized one

I am pretty sure the legal blade limit in NV is 3 inches if you carry it concealed.  When I am in NV I only carry a Kershaw 2" folder to open packages, cut fruit etc,, as I no longer need to rely on a knife for protection since I got my NV cc permit.

I have always loved knives and have several expensive ones, 3 Busses, a Camillus CudaMaxx (limited production run of only 1000.) Bought that knife when it first was released for $207 on EBay.  Today, if you can find one for sale, asking price is $800 and up.  Plus I sent that knife to Darryl Ralph, the designer who allowed Camillus to make a limited run to replace the Teflon bearings with bronze like his knives, smooth out the action and firm up the lock.  In Hawaii I carry two fixed blades for SD.  A 5" & 3". 
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on June 24, 2016, 09:47:12 PM
I am pretty sure the legal blade limit in NV is 3 inches if you carry it concealed.  When I am in NV I only carry a Kershaw 2" folder to open packages, cut fruit etc,, as I no longer need to rely on a knife for protection since I got my NV cc permit.

I have always loved knives and have several expensive ones, 3 Busses, a Camillus CudaMaxx (limited production run of only 1000.) Bought that knife when it first was released for $207 on EBay.  Today, if you can find one for sale, asking price is $800 and up.  Plus I sent that knife to Darryl Ralph, the designer who allowed Camillus to make a limited run to replace the Teflon bearings with bronze like his knives, smooth out the action and firm up the lock.  In Hawaii I carry two fixed blades for SD.  A 5" & 3".

Nevada State laws no longer have length limits for knife blades you can carry.  The whole of Clark County, Nevada, plus the townships or cities of Henderson, Las Vegas, and North Las Vegas all forbid concealed carry of knives with blades 3” long or longer. Reno is even stricter, banning blades 2” long or longer, and some municipalities probably still outlaw switchblade and belt-buckle knife ownership.

Before changes in 2015, a pocketknife was all you could legally carry concealed without a permit.  NRS § 202.350, now heavily amended as of July 1st, 2015, forbids concealed carry of machetes. It is now legal to carry switchblades, belt buckle knives (which are concealed permanently by design), daggers, dirks, and other legal knives concealed. Swords presumably count as “machetes” also, and sword-canes likely fall into the same category. Nevada residents can request a concealed carry permit for knives otherwise illegal to carry hidden from their county sheriff, in writing.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: RSN172 on June 24, 2016, 09:57:17 PM
Nevada State laws no longer have length limits for knife blades you can carry.  The whole of Clark County, Nevada, plus the townships or cities of Henderson, Las Vegas, and North Las Vegas all forbid concealed carry of knives with blades 3” long or longer.

That is why I stated in my post "if you carry it concealed".  Am I correct or did the new knife laws change that blade limit?
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on June 24, 2016, 10:55:08 PM
That is why I stated in my post "if you carry it concealed".  Am I correct or did the new knife laws change that blade limit?

From the way I read it, the state no longer specifies a limit on legal blade length.  Cities and counties may have length restrictions, as listed in the other comment.  Also, you can't carry these weapons on the grounds of schools or day cares.

State law is silent on maximum legal lengths, so you have to know what the local laws specify.

Here's the entire, newly revised, statute:

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     NRS 202.350  Manufacture, importation, possession or use of dangerous weapon or silencer; carrying concealed weapon without permit; penalties; issuance of permit to carry concealed weapon; exceptions.

      1.  Except as otherwise provided in this section and NRS 202.3653 to 202.369, inclusive, a person within this State shall not:

      (a) Manufacture or cause to be manufactured, or import into the State, or keep, offer or expose for sale, or give, lend or possess any instrument or weapon of the kind commonly known as a blackjack, slungshot, billy, sand-club, sandbag or metal knuckles;

      (b) Manufacture or cause to be manufactured, or import into the State, or keep, offer or expose for sale, or give, lend, possess or use a machine gun or a silencer, unless authorized by federal law;

      (c) With the intent to inflict harm upon the person of another, possess or use a nunchaku or trefoil; or

      (d) Carry concealed upon his or her person any:

             (1) Explosive substance, other than ammunition or any components thereof;

             (2) Machete; or

             (3) Pistol, revolver or other firearm, other dangerous or deadly weapon or pneumatic gun.

      2.  Except as otherwise provided in NRS 202.275 and 212.185, a person who violates any of the provisions of:

      (a) Paragraph (a) or (c) or subparagraph (2) of paragraph (d) of subsection 1 is guilty:

             (1) For the first offense, of a gross misdemeanor.

             (2) For any subsequent offense, of a category D felony and shall be punished as provided in NRS 193.130.

      (b) Paragraph (b) or subparagraph (1) or (3) of paragraph (d) of subsection 1 is guilty of a category C felony and shall be punished as provided in NRS 193.130.

      3.  Except as otherwise provided in this subsection, the sheriff of any county may, upon written application by a resident of that county showing the reason or the purpose for which a concealed weapon is to be carried, issue a permit authorizing the applicant to carry in this State the concealed weapon described in the permit. This subsection does not authorize the sheriff to issue a permit to a person to carry a pistol, revolver or other firearm.

      4.  Except as otherwise provided in subsection 5, this section does not apply to:

      (a) Sheriffs, constables, marshals, peace officers, correctional officers employed by the Department of Corrections, special police officers, police officers of this State, whether active or honorably retired, or other appointed officers.

      (b) Any person summoned by any peace officer to assist in making arrests or preserving the peace while the person so summoned is actually engaged in assisting such an officer.

      (c) Any full-time paid peace officer of an agency of the United States or another state or political subdivision thereof when carrying out official duties in the State of Nevada.

      (d) Members of the Armed Forces of the United States when on duty.

      5.  The exemptions provided in subsection 4 do not include a former peace officer who is retired for disability unless his or her former employer has approved his or her fitness to carry a concealed weapon.

      6.  The provisions of paragraph (b) of subsection 1 do not apply to any person who is licensed, authorized or permitted to possess or use a machine gun or silencer pursuant to federal law. The burden of establishing federal licensure, authorization or permission is upon the person possessing the license, authorization or permission.

      7.  This section shall not be construed to prohibit a qualified law enforcement officer or a qualified retired law enforcement officer from carrying a concealed weapon in this State if he or she is authorized to do so pursuant to 18 U.S.C. § 926B or 926C.

      8.  As used in this section:

      (a) “Concealed weapon” means a weapon described in this section that is carried upon a person in such a manner as not to be discernible by ordinary observation.

      (b) “Honorably retired” means retired in Nevada after completion of 10 years of creditable service as a member of the Public Employees’ Retirement System. A former peace officer is not “honorably retired” if he or she was discharged for cause or resigned before the final disposition of allegations of serious misconduct.

      (c) “Machine gun” means any weapon which shoots, is designed to shoot or can be readily restored to shoot more than one shot, without manual reloading, by a single function of the trigger.

      (d) “Nunchaku” means an instrument consisting of two or more sticks, clubs, bars or rods connected by a rope, cord, wire or chain used as a weapon in forms of Oriental combat.

      (e) “Pneumatic gun” has the meaning ascribed to it in NRS 202.265.

      (f) “Qualified law enforcement officer” has the meaning ascribed to it in 18 U.S.C. § 926B(c).

      (g) “Qualified retired law enforcement officer” has the meaning ascribed to it in 18 U.S.C. § 926C(c).

      (h) “Silencer” means any device for silencing, muffling or diminishing the report of a firearm, including any combination of parts, designed or redesigned, and intended for use in assembling or fabricating a silencer or muffler, and any part intended only for use in such assembly or fabrication.

      (i) “Trefoil” means an instrument consisting of a metal plate having three or more radiating points with sharp edges, designed in the shape of a star, cross or other geometric figure and used as a weapon for throwing.

      [1:47:1925; NCL § 2302] + [3:47:1925; NCL § 2304]—(NRS A 1959, 548; 1963, 90; 1967, 486; 1973, 190, 900; 1977, 269, 880; 1979, 1435; 1985, 452, 593, 792; 1989, 653; 1995, 1207, 2726; 1997, 826, 1601; 1999, 421, 1208; 2001, 575; 2003, 1351; 2005, 594; 2015, 1587)



Here is the 2010 version of the same thing:


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NRS 202.350 Manufacture, importation, possession or use of dangerous weapon or silencer; carrying concealed weapon without permit; penalties; issuance of permit to carry concealed weapon; exceptions.

1. Except as otherwise provided in this section and NRS 202.355 and 202.3653 to 202.369, inclusive, a person within this State shall not:

(a) Manufacture or cause to be manufactured, or import into the State, or keep, offer or expose for sale, or give, lend or possess any knife which is made an integral part of a belt buckle or any instrument or weapon of the kind commonly known as a switchblade knife, blackjack, slungshot, billy, sand-club, sandbag or metal knuckles;

(b) Manufacture or cause to be manufactured, or import into the State, or keep, offer or expose for sale, or give, lend, possess or use a machine gun or a silencer, unless authorized by federal law;

(c) With the intent to inflict harm upon the person of another, possess or use a nunchaku or trefoil; or

(d) Carry concealed upon his or her person any:

(1) Explosive substance, other than ammunition or any components thereof;

(2) Dirk, dagger or machete;

(3) Pistol, revolver or other firearm, or other dangerous or deadly weapon; or

(4) Knife which is made an integral part of a belt buckle.

2. Except as otherwise provided in NRS 202.275 and 212.185, a person who violates any of the provisions of:

(a) Paragraph (a) or (c) or subparagraph (2) or (4) of paragraph (d) of subsection 1 is guilty:

(1) For the first offense, of a gross misdemeanor.

(2) For any subsequent offense, of a category D felony and shall be punished as provided in NRS 193.130.

(b) Paragraph (b) or subparagraph (1) or (3) of paragraph (d) of subsection 1 is guilty of a category C felony and shall be punished as provided in NRS 193.130.

3. Except as otherwise provided in this subsection, the sheriff of any county may, upon written application by a resident of that county showing the reason or the purpose for which a concealed weapon is to be carried, issue a permit authorizing the applicant to carry in this State the concealed weapon described in the permit. The sheriff shall not issue a permit to a person to carry a switchblade knife. This subsection does not authorize the sheriff to issue a permit to a person to carry a pistol, revolver or other firearm.

4. Except as otherwise provided in subsection 5, this section does not apply to:

(a) Sheriffs, constables, marshals, peace officers, correctional officers employed by the Department of Corrections, special police officers, police officers of this State, whether active or honorably retired, or other appointed officers.

(b) Any person summoned by any peace officer to assist in making arrests or preserving the peace while the person so summoned is actually engaged in assisting such an officer.

(c) Any full-time paid peace officer of an agency of the United States or another state or political subdivision thereof when carrying out official duties in the State of Nevada.

(d) Members of the Armed Forces of the United States when on duty.

5. The exemptions provided in subsection 4 do not include a former peace officer who is retired for disability unless his or her former employer has approved his or her fitness to carry a concealed weapon.

6. The provisions of paragraph (b) of subsection 1 do not apply to any person who is licensed, authorized or permitted to possess or use a machine gun or silencer pursuant to federal law. The burden of establishing federal licensure, authorization or permission is upon the person possessing the license, authorization or permission.

7. This section shall not be construed to prohibit a qualified law enforcement officer or a qualified retired law enforcement officer from carrying a concealed weapon in this State if he or she is authorized to do so pursuant to 18 U.S.C. 926B or 926C.

8. As used in this section:

(a) "Concealed weapon" means a weapon described in this section that is carried upon a person in such a manner as not to be discernible by ordinary observation.

(b) "Honorably retired" means retired in Nevada after completion of 10 years of creditable service as a member of the Public Employees' Retirement System. A former peace officer is not "honorably retired" if he or she was discharged for cause or resigned before the final disposition of allegations of serious misconduct.

(c) "Machine gun" means any weapon which shoots, is designed to shoot or can be readily restored to shoot more than one shot, without manual reloading, by a single function of the trigger.

(d) "Nunchaku" means an instrument consisting of two or more sticks, clubs, bars or rods connected by a rope, cord, wire or chain used as a weapon in forms of Oriental combat.

(e) "Qualified law enforcement officer" has the meaning ascribed to it in 18 U.S.C. 926B(c).

(f) "Qualified retired law enforcement officer" has the meaning ascribed to it in 18 U.S.C. 926C(c).

(g) "Silencer" means any device for silencing, muffling or diminishing the report of a firearm, including any combination of parts, designed or redesigned, and intended for use in assembling or fabricating a silencer or muffler, and any part intended only for use in such assembly or fabrication.

(h) "Switchblade knife" means a spring-blade knife, snap-blade knife or any other knife having the appearance of a pocketknife, any blade of which is 2 or more inches long and which can be released automatically by a flick of a button, pressure on the handle or other mechanical device, or is released by any type of mechanism. The term does not include a knife which has a blade that is held in place by a spring if the blade does not have any type of automatic release.

(i) "Trefoil" means an instrument consisting of a metal plate having three or more radiating points with sharp edges, designed in the shape of a star, cross or other geometric figure and used as a weapon for throwing.

[1:47:1925; NCL 2302] + [3:47:1925; NCL 2304]-(NRS A 1959, 548; 1963, 90; 1967, 486; 1973, 190, 900; 1977, 269, 880; 1979, 1435; 1985, 452, 593, 792; 1989, 653; 1995, 1207, 2726; 1997, 826, 1601; 1999, 421, 1208; 2001, 575; 2003, 1351; 2005, 594)
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on June 24, 2016, 11:04:20 PM
BTW, I just received my NV CCW.  The permit itself is called a CONCEALED WEAPON PERMIT.  The rear of the card states HANDGUN AUTHORIZED.  I guess this form is pre-2015, when you needed a permit for concealed knives other than the already allowed pocketknives.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on June 25, 2016, 01:44:04 AM
I am pretty sure the legal blade limit in NV is 3 inches if you carry it concealed.  When I am in NV I only carry a Kershaw 2" folder to open packages, cut fruit etc,, as I no longer need to rely on a knife for protection since I got my NV cc permit.

I have always loved knives and have several expensive ones, 3 Busses, a Camillus CudaMaxx (limited production run of only 1000.) Bought that knife when it first was released for $207 on EBay.  Today, if you can find one for sale, asking price is $800 and up.  Plus I sent that knife to Darryl Ralph, the designer who allowed Camillus to make a limited run to replace the Teflon bearings with bronze like his knives, smooth out the action and firm up the lock.  In Hawaii I carry two fixed blades for SD.  A 5" & 3".
He was carrying it open. In plain sight.

$800 for a blade is damn pricey!
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on June 25, 2016, 01:45:06 AM
Please keep this discussion about blades. Keep share your apparent expertise about laws and other stuff in the legal section.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: eyeeatingfish on June 25, 2016, 02:33:12 AM
Is that like a chisel at the tip/end? 

That's an interesting configuration.  What is the intent/purpose for such a design?

The tip is a single sided chisel grind. The intention there was for a knife that could get under something and do some light prying. The knife isn't super thick which saves weight but could cost me in terms of how much I could pry. I put on that slight angle so that it does still have some stab potential as opposed to completely perpendicular chisel edge. The straight edge is a double sided convex grind. It is thinner and sort of protected for tasks you need the blade nice and sharp.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: RSN172 on June 25, 2016, 08:33:25 AM
Hawaii has a nationally known custom knife maker on Oahu.  Tom Mayo.  His knives sell for $1000 and up.  Last time I looked at his website,  it said he was not currently taking any new orders since he had a 2 year backlog.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: oldfart on June 25, 2016, 08:53:31 AM
Hawaii has a nationally known custom knife maker on Oahu.  Tom Mayo.  His knives sell for $1000 and up.  Last time I looked at his website,  it said he was not currently taking any new orders since he had a 2 year backlog.
...
How about ken onion?
Tom used to shoot with us back in the day.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: eyeeatingfish on June 25, 2016, 09:57:35 AM
Hawaii has a nationally known custom knife maker on Oahu.  Tom Mayo.  His knives sell for $1000 and up.  Last time I looked at his website,  it said he was not currently taking any new orders since he had a 2 year backlog.

There are a number of well known knife makers in Hawaii, well at least well known in the knife community. Go to the gun shows and you meet some of them.

I met one guy at the knife show last year who only had a few years experience and already he was selling fixed blades for $200. And he wasn't even one of the famous ones.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on June 25, 2016, 12:45:02 PM
...
How about ken onion?
Tom used to shoot with us back in the day.
I know Tom too
Saw him about a year ago at the gun show he had a table
Had an article about him in Blade magazine several months ago
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on June 25, 2016, 01:04:15 PM
The tip is a single sided chisel grind. The intention there was for a knife that could get under something and do some light prying. The knife isn't super thick which saves weight but could cost me in terms of how much I could pry. I put on that slight angle so that it does still have some stab potential as opposed to completely perpendicular chisel edge. The straight edge is a double sided convex grind. It is thinner and sort of protected for tasks you need the blade nice and sharp.
Interesting design/concept.  I guess you can always stab someone with any object, but I would think that that design would make it tougher. 
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on June 25, 2016, 01:07:15 PM
Hawaii has a nationally known custom knife maker on Oahu.  Tom Mayo.  His knives sell for $1000 and up.  Last time I looked at his website,  it said he was not currently taking any new orders since he had a 2 year backlog.
Yeah, I've seen a bunch of them at gun shows and they have some damn fine knives as some damn fine prices! 

When my buddy started doing knives, he started as something to do after retiring and something he always wanted to do.  He does everything except for heat treat.  He even does kydex sheaths for them and has "a guy" that does leather for nostalgic designs.  I don't really "need" one of his knives as I have lots that I have now that don't really get used, but just the opportunity to get something that is just for me and what I want is appealing.  Again, I really wish I had more use for them. 
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: JHanawahine on June 25, 2016, 04:05:04 PM
I used to carry a buck 112,it has a permanent home in my truck now.had a couple cheap kershaws but they go dull fast.folding utility knife is all I got on me now days. I see Tom M browsing sec's consignment guns.Ken onion & Stan fugisaka are out of Kaneohe.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: RSN172 on June 25, 2016, 04:44:02 PM
...
How about ken onion?
Tom used to shoot with us back in the day.
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I have 3 Ken Onion Kershaw and never knew he was in Hawaii, in fact the neighboring town from me. (I used to live in Kailua )
Checked Tom Mayo's website and he is taking orders again.  Now Darrell Ralph has stopped taking new orders.  Damn, it seems like the custom knife making business is a good one if you have the skills.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on June 25, 2016, 05:54:06 PM
getting a custom knife made just for you does sound like a pretty good idea.   :thumbsup:

I have this knife which i did use for a hiking trail chopper
Blackjack Marauder MK I
I got it about 30 years ago

(http://www.zipantiques.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/2_us_blackjack_marauder_mk1_knife.jpg)

Blackjack made some great knives back in 80's-90's
their knives are now made by bark river knives, iirc
they had their beginnings with ties to Chris Reeves, but business wasn't dealt with properly or something like that
here's a little history on the company:
http://blackjack.0catch.com/pages/early_years_fyi.htm
i think i bought mine in the first year of the company 1987, but i could swear it was before that

they are not custom but i like the looks of many of their knives.  they use A2 tool steel now, not sure what was used before on mine.  blades are about 1/4 inch thick too.  beefy blades.

(http://cdn3.bigcommerce.com/s-t7tzgd0/products/6173/images/8110/yhst-72001783265187_2267_239582956__89063.1409950333.500.659.jpg?c=2)
(http://images.knifecenter.com/thumb/1500x1500/knifecenter/blackjack/images/BJ5BM.jpg)


(http://www.gpknives.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/400x/3d3f317666956ee07a3550dd00d02d6e/B/C/BCB7GM.jpg)
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: oldfart on June 25, 2016, 07:29:03 PM
I used to carry a buck 112,it has a permanent home in my truck now.had a couple cheap kershaws but they go dull fast.folding utility knife is all I got on me now days. I see Tom M browsing sec's consignment guns.Ken onion & Stan fugisaka are out of Kaneohe.
...
I loved my buck 112. It was my first nice knife and I promptly lost it.
Other local makers, vince, oj, ross.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: eyeeatingfish on June 26, 2016, 09:06:07 AM
Interesting design/concept.  I guess you can always stab someone with any object, but I would think that that design would make it tougher.

I figure that if you are stabbing tissue with something like a chisel (which has a more obtuse angle) you won't have much trouble anyway. So I put the angle on it so that it does have a tip that hits first. I haven't tried puncture tests with it but now that you ask maybe I will have to take it to some objects to try out on. Phone book, cardboard, etc?

Meanwhile, here is a shameless plug!
I made this one for my father. About 4.5" blade, nice curved belly.
https://www.facebook.com/MattWouldCraft/photos/a.783703501710618.1073741828.783694391711529/783703441710624/?type=3&theater
(https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/q87/s480x480/11000171_783703441710624_1932958263113660662_n.jpg?oh=2a08959e0b6655eb206c677eb0497c83&oe=580B804A)
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: Surf on June 26, 2016, 07:06:15 PM
I have many knives, but my primaries are fairly generic and not the fancy or custom ones;

Folders - Benchmade AFOII Tanto, Ken Onion Kershaw BOA

Fixed hunting pig knife - Ka Bar Becker BK7

Field dressing / skinning - Buck Vanguard.  Old school favorite because I have had it for a long long time and field dressed a lot of game with it.

Fixed carry - OKC Rat 3.  Benchmade Nimravus.  Don't generally carry a fixed other than these, except for knives I have affixed to gear set ups.

Jungle Machete - New favorite is the Condor Village Parang.

Skinning / boning Knives - Victorinox.  2 mostly used are the Western Beef Skinner and the 6" flex boning knife, but I also have the 12" Straight Butcher.  These are not field skinners.

Kitchen - Henkels but I still like the Victorinox chef, santoku, bread and paring knives.

Throwing - Primarily simple midrange priced knives from, Sog flings, Gil Hibben, Cold Steel.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: eyeeatingfish on June 26, 2016, 07:55:04 PM
I have many knives, but my primaries are fairly generic and not the fancy or custom ones;
Folders - Benchmade AFOII Tanto, Ken Onion Kershaw BOA
Fixed hunting pig knife - Ka Bar Becker BK7
Field dressing / skinning - Buck Vanguard.  Old school favorite because I have had it for a long long time and field dressed a lot of game with it.
Fixed carry - OKC Rat 3.  Benchmade Nimravus.  Don't generally carry a fixed other than these, except for knives I have affixed to gear set ups.
Jungle Machete - New favorite is the Condor Village Parang.
Skinning / boning Knives - Victorinox.  2 mostly used are the Western Beef Skinner and the 6" flex boning knife, but I also have the 12" Straight Butcher.  These are not field skinners.
Kitchen - Henkels but I still like the Victorinox chef, santoku, bread and paring knives.
Throwing - Primarily simple midrange priced knives from, Sog flings, Gil Hibben, Cold Steel.

My EDC folders are a
Kershaw Jun Yard Dog
https://kershaw.kaiusaltd.com/knives/knife/junkyard-dog-ii (mine is slightly older model)
Sog Visionary (larger size)
http://www.sogknives.com/visionary-ii.html
A CRKT Fossil
http://www.crkt.com/fossil-folding-pocket-knife-5470
MCUSTA Tactility
http://www.gpknives.com/mcustatactilityquincewood.html
MCUSTA Take
http://www.bladehq.com/item--Mcusta-Take-Damascus--6163
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: whynow? on June 26, 2016, 08:47:09 PM
2 Spydercos (Civilian model and a real old forget the name plain blade model) and 1 Benchmade Mini Rukus.
Normally carry the older Spyderco for the weight, but the Civilian blade is mean looking.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: eyeeatingfish on June 26, 2016, 08:52:11 PM
2 Spydercos (Civilian model and a real old forget the name plain blade model) and 1 Benchmade Mini Rukus.
Normally carry the older Spyderco for the weight, but the Civilian blade is mean looking.

I have 2 Spyderco knives. One is a full see endure as my work knife with a custom handle I made and the other i somewhat of a collectors edition, a glow in the dark handle run made for bladeforums.com users. That one remains in the box as I haven't decided whether to keep it as a possible collectors item or use it. I have been happy with all Spydercos I have owned to date. Forgot to mention I did buy my wife a med size spyderco as well. I also have a spyderco salt which is basically impervious to rust. And yes, based on the claim that it is completely rust proof, people have tried everything to get it to rust without success. Does't hold the best edge but it is rust proof, not rust resistant.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on June 26, 2016, 10:22:18 PM
I have the Benchmade Nimravus and Spyderco Spyderco FB23PBBK in my Amazon wishlist.  It would go on my training gun belt.  Slim utility knife. 

I was looking at a bunch of different KaBar Becker blades, but just didn't pull the trigger on one.  While the folders I have get some use, albeit mostly box cutting and loose close thread cutting, I rarely have uses for fixed blades anymore.  I have a couple of dive knives that get taken out to be used here and there, but I rarely end up using them. 

I've tried throwing knives, but never owned any.  It's a LOT harder than it looks thats for sure!  Closest I got to throwing knives were ninja stars when I was a kid.  A friend and I got actually pretty good with those things as one point. 

A friend in Texas got into autos and had a line on getting Benchmade autos at dealer cost, but sadly no bueno here. 

Another blade shape that I found interesting are the Kukri.  I have a cheap Cold Steel one and another that I got from a friend (no idea on the brand).  I've used them for yard work at my dad's place.  Haha.  Seem decently useful. 

I also have a couple CRKT SF-type knives.  The flipper things make them too bulky to EDC with typical office attire.  They seem decent knives for the money though. 

Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on June 26, 2016, 10:30:57 PM
Another brand that I've been wanting to try is Zero Tolerance.  They are pretty pricey though.  I have a few similar Kershaws that are assisted openers. 
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: Surf on June 26, 2016, 11:36:20 PM
I have the Benchmade Nimravus and Spyderco Spyderco FB23PBBK in my Amazon wishlist.  It would go on my training gun belt.  Slim utility knife. 

I was looking at a bunch of different KaBar Becker blades, but just didn't pull the trigger on one.  While the folders I have get some use, albeit mostly box cutting and loose close thread cutting, I rarely have uses for fixed blades anymore.  I have a couple of dive knives that get taken out to be used here and there, but I rarely end up using them. 

I've tried throwing knives, but never owned any.  It's a LOT harder than it looks thats for sure!  Closest I got to throwing knives were ninja stars when I was a kid.  A friend and I got actually pretty good with those things as one point. 

A friend in Texas got into autos and had a line on getting Benchmade autos at dealer cost, but sadly no bueno here. 

Another blade shape that I found interesting are the Kukri.  I have a cheap Cold Steel one and another that I got from a friend (no idea on the brand).  I've used them for yard work at my dad's place.  Haha.  Seem decently useful. 

I also have a couple CRKT SF-type knives.  The flipper things make them too bulky to EDC with typical office attire.  They seem decent knives for the money though.
The Nimravus is really a good knife.  As you mention, slim, lightweight and great ergos, excellent steel, nice design as fighter or just a utility.  A custom kydex belt sheath with your carry mode or cant makes it ideal.

The Becker knives just feel good in the hand.  Great feel to the grip, but the standard grip texture may need a bit of help.  Grip mods or aftermarket grips makes them pretty much perfect.  Great steel.

I get my Benchmades when they run certain discount specials for qualified buyers, so I am a fan of that. 

The Kukri design is very good.  Leverage via the design in regards to weight and angle of the blade is excellent.  A good design and Kukri is awesome for certain uses, but the design IMO is a bit more specific and less utilitarian in overall uses as say a parang when it comes to my own specific needs.  I use my current parang as a jungle chopper, and use it as a large splitter for quartering or mostly halving carcasses.  The design in just a bit more utilitarian but less sexy looking.  My current Condor has seen some serious abuse with cutting a lot of good sized waiawi and it doesn't even shrug at it.  It will also split a pig in half down the spine like it is nothing.  I hope to split a cow with it soon and I think it will perform equally well.     

CKRT are very good mid range or budget knives.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: Surf on June 26, 2016, 11:38:59 PM
Another brand that I've been wanting to try is Zero Tolerance.  They are pretty pricey though.  I have a few similar Kershaws that are assisted openers.
I dig the ZT knives, have one, three or four and picked one up recently from a member here to match a rifle build for a knife / rifle set.  I don't carry any of them however on a regular basis.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: whynow? on June 27, 2016, 09:17:27 AM
Here's a pic of mine.

C:\Users\lwy21\Pictures\2016-06-24\P1000241.JPG
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on June 27, 2016, 09:19:16 AM
The Nimravus is really a good knife.  As you mention, slim, lightweight and great ergos, excellent steel, nice design as fighter or just a utility.  A custom kydex belt sheath with your carry mode or cant makes it ideal.

The Becker knives just feel good in the hand.  Great feel to the grip, but the standard grip texture may need a bit of help.  Grip mods or aftermarket grips makes them pretty much perfect.  Great steel.

I get my Benchmades when they run certain discount specials for qualified buyers, so I am a fan of that. 

The Kukri design is very good.  Leverage via the design in regards to weight and angle of the blade is excellent.  A good design and Kukri is awesome for certain uses, but the design IMO is a bit more specific and less utilitarian in overall uses as say a parang when it comes to my own specific needs.  I use my current parang as a jungle chopper, and use it as a large splitter for quartering or mostly halving carcasses.  The design in just a bit more utilitarian but less sexy looking.  My current Condor has seen some serious abuse with cutting a lot of good sized waiawi and it doesn't even shrug at it.  It will also split a pig in half down the spine like it is nothing.  I hope to split a cow with it soon and I think it will perform equally well.     

CKRT are very good mid range or budget knives.
A Filipino couple does my dad's yard and the guy has a parang.  I was chatting with the lady one time and the guy was trimming branches into smaller, more manageable segments.  He was making SUPER QUICK work of branches that I normally would be using a saw.  He was damn handy with that steel for sure!   :o  I wouldn't want to be the one who messes with him when he has that blade in hand for sure!  Slice and dice! 

One good thing about CRKT is that I don't feel bad about using and pretty much abusing.  I mean all of my knives are tools and I would have no problems using any, just that the pricing of the CRKT blades make them less painful to replace.  Not like the Benchmades that I have. 
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on June 27, 2016, 09:20:24 AM
I have 2 Spyderco knives. One is a full see endure as my work knife with a custom handle I made and the other i somewhat of a collectors edition, a glow in the dark handle run made for bladeforums.com users. That one remains in the box as I haven't decided whether to keep it as a possible collectors item or use it. I have been happy with all Spydercos I have owned to date. Forgot to mention I did buy my wife a med size spyderco as well. I also have a spyderco salt which is basically impervious to rust. And yes, based on the claim that it is completely rust proof, people have tried everything to get it to rust without success. Does't hold the best edge but it is rust proof, not rust resistant.
My dad has a bunch of Spydercos.  He has one limited edition one that he brought back from Japan.  He gave it to me and it does seem different than the other Spydercos that he and I have. 
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on June 27, 2016, 09:22:15 AM
Here's a pic of mine.


I've been wanting to try one of those kerambit (sp?) blades.  What do you find them useful for?  As in better than traditional blades. 

I have a Spyderco that is very similar to the one on the right, except the body is brushed metal.  Very nice and holds an edge really well! 
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: Q on June 27, 2016, 10:45:53 AM
The Kukri design is very good.

(https://i.imgflip.com/16dctf.jpg)
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: whynow? on June 27, 2016, 01:04:54 PM
I've been wanting to try one of those kerambit (sp?) blades.  What do you find them useful for?  As in better than traditional blades. 

I have a Spyderco that is very similar to the one on the right, except the body is brushed metal.  Very nice and holds an edge really well!
The curved style blade is supposed to be for cutting/slashing instead of stabbing.  To me that blade is a defensive blade meant to stop an attack, by blood loss/ disabling a tendon or muscle. 
The plain blade knife just has an all plastic body including clip which has held up for about 16 yrs.   Normally just clip to pants pocket.    The stainless body one like you have is the police model.   Would have got that if had the funds back then.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on June 27, 2016, 01:17:11 PM
The curved style blade is supposed to be for cutting/slashing instead of stabbing.  To me that blade is a defensive blade meant to stop an attack, by blood loss/ disabling a tendon or muscle. 
The plain blade knife just has an all plastic body including clip which has held up for about 16 yrs.   Normally just clip to pants pocket.    The stainless body one like you have is the police model.   Would have got that if had the funds back then.
I've read some about the kerambits, but that was a while ago.  Just wondering about what people who own them think.  One thing I remember is the finger loop/ring, which I've seen on some folders and the fixed ones seem to have it.  It would help retain the blade if things get "messy". 

This is a pic from the internet, but basically the same except for "Seki City" on the base of the blade (same as yours).  It's a very smooth knife and very compact.  No idea on the price as my dad bought it in Japan around 1990 or so. 

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/93/3c/b6/933cb69472f388b010f5e4645bcf1261.jpg)

Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on June 27, 2016, 01:18:44 PM
Bowie probably wouldn't approve of this either. . .

(http://www.valyriansteel.com/shop/images/uploads/khal-on-display-sm.jpg)
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: whynow? on June 27, 2016, 10:02:47 PM
Bowie probably wouldn't approve of this either. . .

(http://www.valyriansteel.com/shop/images/uploads/khal-on-display-sm.jpg)
Open carry that at Ala Moana Mall.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on June 28, 2016, 07:59:19 AM
Open carry that at Ala Moana Mall.
That's Khal Drogo's blade (Game of Thrones).   ;)
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: oldfart on June 28, 2016, 09:17:10 AM
That's Khal Drogo's blade (Game of Thrones).   ;)
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doesn't that remind you of the raptor claw in jurassic park?
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on June 29, 2016, 08:07:16 AM
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doesn't that remind you of the raptor claw in jurassic park?
I guess. . .  ???

 ;D
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: Q on June 30, 2016, 02:50:04 AM
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doesn't that remind you of the raptor claw in jurassic park?

It's based on an Egyptian design
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: Q on June 30, 2016, 02:51:48 AM
Bowie probably wouldn't approve of this either. . .

(http://www.valyriansteel.com/shop/images/uploads/khal-on-display-sm.jpg)

Jim Bowie shits on karambits and kukris.

Jim Bowie approves of Khal Drogo and his wheat sickle.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on July 02, 2016, 01:39:43 PM
this is a Boker Arbolito El Gigante . 14.5" overall. 9" blade
made in Argentina N695 steel.  wood grip
the sheath it came with is really nice

(https://c4.staticflickr.com/8/7573/27418200963_400913f416_b.jpg)

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/8/7388/27418040504_9ac07e77d8_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on July 05, 2016, 08:34:23 AM
this is a Boker Arbolito El Gigante . 14.5" overall. 9" blade
made in Argentina N695 steel.  wood grip
the sheath it came with is really nice


Nice blade and great sheath!   :thumbsup:

I now have at least a few blades that have 440C steel, which I understand is very similar to N695.  Or something like 440C is N690 and N695 adds a couple of elements mixed in.

How has the edge held up?  What I've read, the N695 holds a "wicked edge". 
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on July 05, 2016, 04:01:40 PM
Nice blade and great sheath!   :thumbsup:

I now have at least a few blades that have 440C steel, which I understand is very similar to N695.  Or something like 440C is N690 and N695 adds a couple of elements mixed in.

How has the edge held up?  What I've read, the N695 holds a "wicked edge".

I haven't really tested this blade, but I have others with 440C and its a really good steel
there are better, but the 440C is good for what I want it to do
edge can get really sharp
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: Bushido on July 05, 2016, 08:18:54 PM
What are your preferences for knives?

General question as I have a buddy in TN that makes custom knives.  He started producing and selling a couple of years ago and he's gotten quite good.  His blades are good quality, from what I can tell, and they seem decently priced.  He's started making "Damascus" blades and I've always meant to get him started on one for me.  I have a few now, but they were ones that he either made on his own or I bought from an idea from another.  While I want a custom knife, I can't seem to settle on what I'd want.  I generally see knives for other people and I'm like "wow!  that's a cool blade!"

I also understand that the blade shape depends on use, and frankly I don't use knives that much in my daily routine.  Even my pocket knife is pretty much a box opener.  Anyways, I just wanted to get ideas on what some people's preferences are.

Here are a few that I've thought about as starting point for a custom blade.


(http://www.cutleryshoppe.com/images/products/detail/bm_162.jpg)

(http://www.bladehq.com/imgs/knives/fixed-blade-knives/emerson-policebt-black-large.jpg)

Sorry didn't read through all the comments but do you have a website to your friends knives? Particularly the damascus blades? I was looking at a guy that does custom work on FB.

My EDC right now is a Spyderco serated that is beat to hell. I have a bunch of folders and all get used on the daily.
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Post by: eyeeatingfish on July 05, 2016, 10:01:16 PM
I haven't really tested this blade, but I have others with 440C and its a really good steel
there are better, but the 440C is good for what I want it to do
edge can get really sharp

440C is sort of like the baseline for super steels. It performs great and is priced well. It isn't quite as good as a lot of other new exotic steels but it performs very well as a knife steel.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on July 06, 2016, 07:30:43 AM
Sorry didn't read through all the comments but do you have a website to your friends knives? Particularly the damascus blades? I was looking at a guy that does custom work on FB.

My EDC right now is a Spyderco serated that is beat to hell. I have a bunch of folders and all get used on the daily.
He occasionally posts some on another board.  I'll send you the link via PM. 

He might post some on a local board, but I've never browsed there.  He also does some bartering with some other guys.  One is a leather sheath maker and they'll partner up and then the leather sheath guy will post on etsy.  The leather sheath guy looks like he does some great work. 
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on July 08, 2016, 03:23:32 PM
These are two Damascus blades that he's made previously that I am looking at either getting one of the same or very similar.  For the second/lower one, I like the general shape and finger guard, but am thinking probably a little larger. 

(http://i1090.photobucket.com/albums/i369/drck1000/Mobile%20Uploads/76C51E20-0D6D-44C3-9F95-1A8ABB21A919.jpg)

(http://i1090.photobucket.com/albums/i369/drck1000/Mobile%20Uploads/1914425C-93C0-4B6B-A7A1-242F7FF0A557.jpg)

ETA: Yeah, I know.  Jim Bowie doesn't approve.  ;D
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Post by: macsak on July 08, 2016, 04:48:41 PM
These are two Damascus blades that he's made previously that I am looking at either getting one of the same or very similar.  For the second/lower one, I like the general shape and finger guard, but am thinking probably a little larger. 

(http://i1090.photobucket.com/albums/i369/drck1000/Mobile%20Uploads/76C51E20-0D6D-44C3-9F95-1A8ABB21A919.jpg)

(http://i1090.photobucket.com/albums/i369/drck1000/Mobile%20Uploads/1914425C-93C0-4B6B-A7A1-242F7FF0A557.jpg)

ETA: Yeah, I know.  Jim Bowie doesn't approve.  ;D

those are bad ass!
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: Q on July 09, 2016, 11:18:38 PM
ETA: Yeah, I know.  Jim Bowie doesn't approve.  ;D

Jim Bowie has no quarrel with this.

It shall make a fine gift for your daughter
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on July 11, 2016, 08:47:55 AM
Jim Bowie has no quarrel with this.

It shall make a fine gift for your daughter
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Love that movie! 

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-hUOp9W9ycLA/TgjTd7bLk4I/AAAAAAAAAD4/JRIIGkSvRP8/s1600/13thWarriorDaughter.jpg)

Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on July 11, 2016, 08:48:18 AM
those are bad ass!

If you're interested, I "know a guy".   ;D
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Post by: drck1000 on July 22, 2016, 09:37:14 AM
Was cleaning up around the house and came across this blade.  I bought it in a group by probably 5 years ago hasn't been used.  Forgot I even had it. 

It's razor sharp and is a hefty blade.  Last time I used it was on an overnight fishing trip with friends. 

(http://images.knifecenter.com/knifecenter/ratknives/images/RC4PMBDTanw.jpg)
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Post by: Heavies on July 22, 2016, 10:31:30 AM
Was cleaning up around the house and came across this blade.  I bought it in a group by probably 5 years ago hasn't been used.  Forgot I even had it. 

It's razor sharp and is a hefty blade.  Last time I used it was on an overnight fishing trip with friends. 

(http://images.knifecenter.com/knifecenter/ratknives/images/RC4PMBDTanw.jpg)
That's is a nice blade.  ESEE is one that I considered for EDC too.  You had to get the scales seperate? I think that was the reason I went with the Bradford.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: Heavies on July 22, 2016, 10:33:45 AM
These are two Damascus blades that he's made previously that I am looking at either getting one of the same or very similar.  For the second/lower one, I like the general shape and finger guard, but am thinking probably a little larger. 

(http://i1090.photobucket.com/albums/i369/drck1000/Mobile%20Uploads/76C51E20-0D6D-44C3-9F95-1A8ABB21A919.jpg)

(http://i1090.photobucket.com/albums/i369/drck1000/Mobile%20Uploads/1914425C-93C0-4B6B-A7A1-242F7FF0A557.jpg)

ETA: Yeah, I know.  Jim Bowie doesn't approve.  ;D
I like those, those are beautiful!

I like the top for utility, the bottom for looks....
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on July 22, 2016, 10:46:57 AM
That's is a nice blade.  ESEE is one that I considered for EDC too.  You had to get the scales seperate? I think that was the reason I went with the Bradford.
The scales is how it was offered.  While I would like something with a little more traction, it's not too bad. 

I very much like the shape and scales of the Bradfords.  My wallet doesn't seem to like the pricing on those very much though.   :(

I like those, those are beautiful!

I like the top for utility, the bottom for looks....
I am waiting to see what the guy has coming back from heat treat.  Should be back in the next week or so.  If I don't like what he has currently in the pipeline, I'm going to get him to start on a larger version of the bottom one.  The one in the pic is a 4" blade and 9" OAL.  He had already drawn up the pattern for larger versions and I'm likely going to go with the 6" blade and 12" OAL.  Though the 4 3/4" blade and 10" OAL is making it very tempting to get both.  With custom leather sheathes (a guy he barters with makes those), these go for around $180-220ish.  I would go with a basic leather sheath, which would cut down the cost just a little bit. 
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on August 11, 2016, 08:52:56 AM
I've got a larger version of this one currently in the pipeline.  He's grinding the blade now and will be a heat treat soon.  I went with a 6" blade and 12" OAL.  Have to decide on the scales and a sheath.  I'm thinking of a simple leather sheath to go with wood scales for a more classic look. 

(http://i1090.photobucket.com/albums/i369/drck1000/Mobile%20Uploads/1914425C-93C0-4B6B-A7A1-242F7FF0A557.jpg)
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Post by: drck1000 on December 06, 2016, 09:31:02 AM
My new blade and sheath finally came in.  They are from separate makers, so it took a while.  I couldn't be happier.  The blade maker added some touches, like the liners, that I am really happy with.  I will likely be commissioning another when he gets more of the raw billet in.  Here are some pics.

(http://i1090.photobucket.com/albums/i369/drck1000/Mobile%20Uploads/3AD12378-54BE-4B65-A724-3443FEAAF82B.jpg)

(http://i1090.photobucket.com/albums/i369/drck1000/Mobile%20Uploads/0E30D3A1-1C8D-4C71-B637-CA2C12B7E45F.jpg)

(http://i1090.photobucket.com/albums/i369/drck1000/Mobile%20Uploads/A04174CB-E53E-4DE8-8909-F3A128EAD213.jpg)
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: eyeeatingfish on December 06, 2016, 04:36:32 PM
He does nice work and the sheath looks great too!
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: davgdavg on December 10, 2016, 07:31:12 PM
That first Benchmade is a pretty hard to improve on shape for general survival use. I have a Busse that is pretty much the same shape, probably a little better steel.

If your friend makes a parang let me know!
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on December 11, 2016, 02:12:54 PM
That first Benchmade is a pretty hard to improve on shape for general survival use. I have a Busse that is pretty much the same shape, probably a little better steel.

If your friend makes a parang let me know!
I can ask. Do you have a specific pattern/dimensions in mind? If not, will need to provide a rough sketch or dimensions. Depending on how specific design you have in mind.


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Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: davgdavg on December 12, 2016, 07:16:24 PM
I can ask. Do you have a specific pattern/dimensions in mind? If not, will need to provide a rough sketch or dimensions. Depending on how specific design you have in mind.


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Not really anything too particular, I guess just something around 20-22 inches, 5/32 thick or a little less and good balance. Would be interested in how much something like that might cost from a custom maker. :shaka:
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: eyeeatingfish on December 12, 2016, 08:55:14 PM

Not really anything too particular, I guess just something around 20-22 inches, 5/32 thick or a little less and good balance. Would be interested in how much something like that might cost from a custom maker. :shaka:

I have never done a parang but I would be willing to try. I would estimate the price about $100-$150 depending on what type of steel you want and how pretty you want it (parings are often rough finished)
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on December 12, 2016, 11:35:23 PM

Not really anything too particular, I guess just something around 20-22 inches, 5/32 thick or a little less and good balance. Would be interested in how much something like that might cost from a custom maker. :shaka:
Message me if you're serious. He's a real nice guy, but he can be a grumpy man from Tennessee at times. Haha


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Post by: stangzilla on January 10, 2017, 08:12:58 AM
just got this off ebay.
Boker Wildcat karambit.
blade is D2 steel, with G10 grips.  opening with the flipper is super smooth and fast with the ball bearing. fits great in my hand.  really well made knife.   :thumbsup:

(https://c8.staticflickr.com/1/679/31412644263_94990792fc_b.jpg)
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Post by: stangzilla on January 20, 2017, 01:19:21 PM
using up my amazon gift card from Christmas, I got the top knife:
CRKT M16 big dog!
3.75" AUS8 blade, 9.25 overall length.  adjusted the tension screw on the blade, now it opens smooth like butter!

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/466/32389310036_bc5cc389e7_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on January 20, 2017, 01:51:29 PM
using up my amazon gift card from Christmas, I got the top knife:
CRKT M16 big dog!
3.75" AUS8 blade, 9.25 overall length.  adjusted the tension screw on the blade, now it opens smooth like butter!

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/466/32389310036_bc5cc389e7_b.jpg)
I have this CRKT from Amazon a few years ago.  It's super smooth to open with those flipper tabs.  Haven't really used it much because I prefer to carry blade-tip up and the flippers on that knife makes that, well, a hassle.  Otherwise, it's a decent knife, especially for the price. 

just got this off ebay.
Boker Wildcat karambit.
blade is D2 steel, with G10 grips.  opening with the flipper is super smooth and fast with the ball bearing. fits great in my hand.  really well made knife.   :thumbsup:

(https://c8.staticflickr.com/1/679/31412644263_94990792fc_b.jpg)

I've been looking for a decent fixed karambit for a while.  One of my buddies is an Escrima instructor and when I visited him last in Guam, he got me super interested in karambits.  I've been interested in the Boker brand as well.  How do you like the Boker so far? 
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on January 20, 2017, 02:02:51 PM
the CRKT that I have, you can move the pocket clip to any of the 4 edges of the grips
the knife came with the pocket clip on the other end, but I moved it to where I like it better

that Boker is a pretty sweet little karambit folder, but cannot move the pocket clip.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on January 20, 2017, 02:34:39 PM
the CRKT that I have, you can move the pocket clip to any of the 4 edges of the grips
the knife came with the pocket clip on the other end, but I moved it to where I like it better

that Boker is a pretty sweet little karambit folder, but cannot move the pocket clip.
I can move the pocket clip, but the flipper on mine is both sides of the blade.  Makes it tough to have that side down in your pocket. 

(https://www.natchezss.com/media/catalog/product/z/b/zbm1614sfg_alt2.jpg)
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on January 20, 2017, 03:24:40 PM
I can move the pocket clip, but the flipper on mine is both sides of the blade.  Makes it tough to have that side down in your pocket. 

(https://www.natchezss.com/media/catalog/product/z/b/zbm1614sfg_alt2.jpg)

ok.  I see now.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on April 28, 2017, 12:15:19 PM
couple of Ruger CRKT knives I got recently
bottom one is a Hollow Point+P.  nice looking knife with Ruger emblem on the G10 handle. flipper and adjustable pocket clip for 2 positions for tip up or down.
top one is a Stage2.  it is a heavy knife, with a thick blade, looks and feels very sturdy.  4 point adjustable pocket clip for tip up or down.  both come in a tip up configuration.  I really like the Stage2's pocket clip, its big enough to clip around a 1.5" belt.  I like the ability to clip to a belt sometimes, but mostly I like to carry in the pocket for complete concealment.


(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4155/34275408296_532008ce6c_b.jpg)
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2805/33474516664_158027ba1b_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on January 14, 2018, 07:40:04 PM
Thinking of getting one of these. Also looking at Bradford.

https://flagrantbeard.com/shopping/knives/flagrant-forerunner-plain-edge/

Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: Drakiir84 on January 18, 2018, 07:24:04 AM
I carry a utility folder for everyday cutting tasks and a fixed blade in a kydex sheath for cutting cheesecake..... or people.  Pictured is a Kershaw Blur and Bawidamann Skraeling.

(https://i.imgur.com/MnkuoSi.jpg)
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on January 18, 2018, 08:09:01 AM
I carry a utility folder for everyday cutting tasks and a fixed blade in a kydex sheath for cutting cheesecake..... or people.  Pictured is a Kershaw Blur and Bawidamann Skraeling.

(https://i.imgur.com/MnkuoSi.jpg)
I have that same Kershaw Blur. Haven’t really used it tho. I got it on a group buy many years ago. Got one for me and one for my dad. He used this quite a bit and the texturing on the sides started to peel off. Minor, but didn’t expect that. I like Kershaw as they aren’t pricey, at least most of them, so I don’t feel bad using and abusing. Most are really glorified box cutters.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: Drakiir84 on January 18, 2018, 09:22:14 AM
I have that same Kershaw Blur. Haven’t really used it tho. I got it on a group buy many years ago. Got one for me and one for my dad. He used this quite a bit and the texturing on the sides started to peel off. Minor, but didn’t expect that. I like Kershaw as they aren’t pricey, at least most of them, so I don’t feel bad using and abusing. Most are really glorified box cutters.

Absolutely, this is my 3rd blur (lost the first one, gave the second away).  I've been carrying Kershaws since I was a freshman in high school.  Great affordable knives for everyday use.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on October 05, 2018, 09:11:47 AM
Looking to pick up a nice blade or two.  Sort of a gift to myself after getting through one hell of a past month. Looking for a nicer folder and possibly a fixed blade.

For the folder, I’m looking closely Zero Tolerance. I’m also interested in medium to higher end blades like Strider or other not as main stream brands. Any suggestions welcome.

For fixed blades, I’ve been looking at Flagrant Beard and Bradford for a while. I could also commission another custom blade from a friend in TN. I’ve posted pics of his work here. I have a nice Damascus one, but I’m thinking something more basic.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: WTF?Shane on October 05, 2018, 05:24:52 PM
Looking to pick up a nice blade or two.  Sort of a gift to myself after getting through one hell of a past month. Looking for a nicer folder and possibly a fixed blade.

For the folder, I’m looking closely Zero Tolerance. I’m also interested in medium to higher end blades like Strider or other not as main stream brands. Any suggestions welcome.

What is your price range? Based on your interest in Strider, I'm guessing around $500?

For a little cheaper than Strider, Hinderer makes some awesome knives.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on October 05, 2018, 05:35:05 PM
What is your price range? Based on your interest in Strider, I'm guessing around $500?

For a little cheaper than Strider, Hinderer makes some awesome knives.
Yeah, I’m down for around $500. If I come across something I REALLY like, maybe a little more.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: jaynick on October 05, 2018, 06:04:50 PM

Looking to pick up a nice blade or two.  Sort of a gift to myself after getting through one hell of a past month. Looking for a nicer folder and possibly a fixed blade.

For the folder, I’m looking closely Zero Tolerance. I’m also interested in medium to higher end blades like Strider or other not as main stream brands. Any suggestions welcome.

For fixed blades, I’ve been looking at Flagrant Beard and Bradford for a while. I could also commission another custom blade from a friend in TN. I’ve posted pics of his work here. I have a nice Damascus one, but I’m thinking something more basic.
I had an xm18 but sold it. Zt collab is almost half the price and same quality. Only thing i miss is the longer stonewashing actual hinderers get.
I have a hinderer design zt0562cf for sale. New in box. Have 2 of em and keeping the one i had reground to .01"
Its my most recommended zt.
Also have a hinderer design 0392wc, 0452cf, 0909, 770cfm390, and i think a 0095 available still. All new. I have a new discontinued 0160 fixed blade too. Pm for prices or if you want to see any
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: hvybarrels on October 05, 2018, 11:33:34 PM
For work I have the CRKT m16 and beat the crap out of it. For a nice clothes I have a CRKT ken onion that's really pointy and thin. Can't remember the name though but the steel is excellent. I also got the Ken Onion Work Sharp belt sharpener and use it for everything. Excellent tool that gets tons of use, especially when the kitchen knives get banged up.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on October 06, 2018, 08:46:38 AM
I had an xm18 but sold it. Zt collab is almost half the price and same quality. Only thing i miss is the longer stonewashing actual hinderers get.
I have a hinderer design zt0562cf for sale. New in box. Have 2 of em and keeping the one i had reground to .01"
Its my most recommended zt.
Also have a hinderer design 0392wc, 0452cf, 0909, 770cfm390, and i think a 0095 available still. All new. I have a new discontinued 0160 fixed blade too. Pm for prices or if you want to see any
That model looks good. I was also looking at the 801TI.

Do you have a classified ad with those listed?
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on October 06, 2018, 08:50:34 AM
For work I have the CRKT m16 and beat the crap out of it. For a nice clothes I have a CRKT ken onion that's really pointy and thin. Can't remember the name though but the steel is excellent. I also got the Ken Onion Work Sharp belt sharpener and use it for everything. Excellent tool that gets tons of use, especially when the kitchen knives get banged up.
I have a couple of CRKT knives and they are pretty good. One of my favorites is the M21-14SF.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: bass monkey on October 06, 2018, 12:44:17 PM
Anyone got recommendations on a place that sells knife parts or could give me some information.

I have a Kershaw Sapphire and the screws holding the body together fell out and are gone. 
Its a discontinued model so Kershaw doesn't have parts

Anyone know where I can find screws that small,  or have spares or possibly know what size screws I'm looking for?

I know I could just buy a new one,  but it was cheap, $20, probably because it was getting discontinued and I should have gotten 2, but I like the size of it and haven't really seen anything else that has caught my eye
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on October 08, 2018, 05:43:27 AM
Looking to pick up a nice blade or two.  Sort of a gift to myself after getting through one hell of a past month. Looking for a nicer folder and possibly a fixed blade.

For the folder, I’m looking closely Zero Tolerance. I’m also interested in medium to higher end blades like Strider or other not as main stream brands. Any suggestions welcome.

For fixed blades, I’ve been looking at Flagrant Beard and Bradford for a while. I could also commission another custom blade from a friend in TN. I’ve posted pics of his work here. I have a nice Damascus one, but I’m thinking something more basic.

Is the folder going to be edc?
I'm partial to Boker and CRKT
CRKT are affordable and functional. Boker can get better quality.
My favorite EDC is the Boker Wildcat karambit style flipper. It's easily concealed, ball bearing is super smooth, feels like assisted opening but it's not, D2 blade is good too.
My other EDC are CRKT M16 14z tanto, and Fox tactical tanto. What I carry depends what I'm wearing.

I've seen some great blades lately from Fox knives and Lionsteel, but most of those are out of my price range.
I just ordered a CRKT Ruger and Boker Masada, I'll post pics when they come in
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on October 08, 2018, 07:30:58 AM
Is the folder going to be edc?
I'm partial to Boker and CRKT
CRKT are affordable and functional. Boker can get better quality.
My favorite EDC is the Boker Wildcat karambit style flipper. It's easily concealed, ball bearing is super smooth, feels like assisted opening but it's not, D2 blade is good too.
My other EDC are CRKT M16 14z tanto, and Fox tactical tanto. What I carry depends what I'm wearing.

I've seen some great blades lately from Fox knives and Lionsteel, but most of those are out of my price range.
I just ordered a CRKT Ruger and Boker Masada, I'll post pics when they come in
The folder can be an EDC. I have plenty of decent (Kershaw and older or less expensive Benchmades) to pretty good (newer Benchmades) for regular EDC. This one, I want something nicer. Kinda like splurging on a nice bottle of whiskey now and then, but still appreciate your “usuals”. That’s why I kinda wanted something a little nicer and less mainstream. Kinda like how you’d notice a Colt Python over say a Ruger SP101. Great to have both, but one definitely nicer, but still very much functional and useful.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: AusTac on October 08, 2018, 01:35:58 PM
Love myself a 4" blade with a scandi grind, Aussie wood is so damn hard so a nice sharp wood biased grind is the go, also like esee and falkniven but my goto at the moment is a mors garberg in stainless, can use and abuse without the price tag of expensive knives
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: changemyoil66 on October 08, 2018, 02:13:50 PM
I refuse to spend more than $70 on any EDC item.  Because if you lose it then you're going to be pissed.  If you need to use it to open stuff, don't want to damage a $500 knife (opening paint can).

I lost my Streamlight Protac 1L and was glad it only cost me $50 and it wasn't the $250 one I wanted.  Also for the price, I could have bought another rifle/pistol.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: Drakiir84 on October 09, 2018, 07:13:06 AM
Looking to pick up a nice blade or two.  Sort of a gift to myself after getting through one hell of a past month. Looking for a nicer folder and possibly a fixed blade.

For the folder, I’m looking closely Zero Tolerance. I’m also interested in medium to higher end blades like Strider or other not as main stream brands. Any suggestions welcome.

For fixed blades, I’ve been looking at Flagrant Beard and Bradford for a while. I could also commission another custom blade from a friend in TN. I’ve posted pics of his work here. I have a nice Damascus one, but I’m thinking something more basic.

ZT's are awesome.  I bought my groomsmen ZT's for their gift.  Sexy knives.  Like Kershaws but better ;-)
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: Drakiir84 on October 09, 2018, 07:17:57 AM
I refuse to spend more than $70 on any EDC item.  Because if you lose it then you're going to be pissed.  If you need to use it to open stuff, don't want to damage a $500 knife (opening paint can).

I lost my Streamlight Protac 1L and was glad it only cost me $50 and it wasn't the $250 one I wanted.  Also for the price, I could have bought another rifle/pistol.

That's why you carry more than one knife.  A beater for daily tasks and one for self defense.  I guess it all comes down to how well you take care of your shit.  I still have my first pair of Oakleys that I bought with my first paycheck in 1998.  Those suckers turned 20 years old.  My wife however can't keep a pair of sunglasses for more than a few years, her record was losing some Maui Jim's I bought her in 2 months.

So if you can take care of a nice knife, treat yourself.  If you can't, stick to cheap ones.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on October 09, 2018, 07:48:01 AM
ZT's are awesome.  I bought my groomsmen ZT's for their gift.  Sexy knives.  Like Kershaws but better ;-)

isn't ZT the professional line of Kershaw?  thought I read that somewhere.


this one caught my eye recently.  I have another knife designed by the same guy and have another on order but those 2 are Boker knives
https://www.bokerusa.com/pocketknives/fox/fox-knives/desert-fox-g10-01fx081
can probably find cheaper somewhere else.  prices here are more like retail
other Fox knives:  https://www.bokerusa.com/fox-knives/?p=1

(https://media.midwayusa.com/productimages/880x660/Primary/737/737148.jpg)
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on October 09, 2018, 07:57:36 AM
for EDC I like to have a few options:
flipper
ball bearing pivot
3-4 inch blade.  could be smaller or bigger, but in general 3-4 inches is good for me for EDC
a nice functioning pocket clip.  has to be not too tight as to hinder a draw, but tight enough to have retention, but most times I carry it inside the pocket without the clip on the pocket. also like to have the clip able to hook well to my belt, although I don't carry it this way that often.
G10, aluminum, or similar grip
not too much if any serrations on the blade. I like a tanto or a spearpoint type blade for edc
not sure yet of what type of steel I prefer, but I'm liking D2 steel lately, but i'm not that knowledgeable about what type of steel is good for what
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: Drakiir84 on October 09, 2018, 08:05:01 AM
isn't ZT the professional line of Kershaw?  thought I read that somewhere.


this one caught my eye recently.  I have another knife designed by the same guy and have another on order but those 2 are Boker knives
https://www.bokerusa.com/pocketknives/fox/fox-knives/desert-fox-g10-01fx081
can probably find cheaper somewhere else.  prices here are more like retail
other Fox knives:  https://www.bokerusa.com/fox-knives/?p=1

(https://media.midwayusa.com/productimages/880x660/Primary/737/737148.jpg)

Both are owned by KAI Group.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: oldfart on October 09, 2018, 08:31:48 AM
I refuse to spend more than $70 on any EDC item.  Because if you lose it then you're going to be pissed.  If you need to use it to open stuff, don't want to damage a $500 knife (opening paint can).
....
Me too. I lost a lot of nice knives so I just carry cheap folders now.

Which is not to say I don't own or appreciate a fine blade.
One of my prized possessions is a Mayo tanto that he custom built for me.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on October 09, 2018, 08:36:20 AM
ZT's are awesome.  I bought my groomsmen ZT's for their gift.  Sexy knives.  Like Kershaws but better ;-)
I’ve been wanting to try a ZT blade for a while. Just never felt the “need” to go ahead and get one. I have plenty of good quality blades already, including many Kershaws. You can get me a ZT for my birthday next year.  ;D

That's why you carry more than one knife.  A beater for daily tasks and one for self defense.  I guess it all comes down to how well you take care of your shit.  I still have my first pair of Oakleys that I bought with my first paycheck in 1998.  Those suckers turned 20 years old.  My wife however can't keep a pair of sunglasses for more than a few years, her record was losing some Maui Jim's I bought her in 2 months.

So if you can take care of a nice knife, treat yourself.  If you can't, stick to cheap ones.
Someone here got the point... actually on many levels.

I generally treat my stuff well. Of course they are tools, at least in this context, and I’ll use them as such. That said, I don’t baby them. I still do value higher quality stuff and certainly appreciate them. Yeah, many times a more value level item can do the same, but another point here was to treat myself to something nice.

I also tend to hold onto my stuff as long as I can. They become a rotation of “nicer” stuff and then become “beaters”. At least that’s how it’s been with stuff like watches. I still have a watch from college days and still runs well and use for when I envision getting more wear and tear. But I generally buy good quality stuff and they usually last if you take care of them.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on October 09, 2018, 08:43:22 AM
for EDC I like to have a few options:
flipper
ball bearing pivot
3-4 inch blade.  could be smaller or bigger, but in general 3-4 inches is good for me for EDC
a nice functioning pocket clip.  has to be not too tight as to hinder a draw, but tight enough to have retention, but most times I carry it inside the pocket without the clip on the pocket. also like to have the clip able to hook well to my belt, although I don't carry it this way that often.
G10, aluminum, or similar grip
not too much if any serrations on the blade. I like a tanto or a spearpoint type blade for edc
not sure yet of what type of steel I prefer, but I'm liking D2 steel lately, but i'm not that knowledgeable about what type of steel is good for what
Over the years, I’ve used a bunch. My general preferences now are:
Tip up carry (just the tip  ;D )
Drop or spear point
No concave section
Generally avoid serrated sections, but to have a few with them. (Depends on use)
I don’t pay that much attention to the steel composition, but will look into them before buying. I do have a variety of them though. Even some custom high carbon knives that I swear will corrode if you leave a finger print on them for more than a few days.
I like different handle textures. Mostly varying in how I’m dressed. Some of the more aggressive texture knives tear up my work pants.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on October 09, 2018, 08:45:26 AM
Love myself a 4" blade with a scandi grind, Aussie wood is so damn hard so a nice sharp wood biased grind is the go, also like esee and falkniven but my goto at the moment is a mors garberg in stainless, can use and abuse without the price tag of expensive knives
I’ve heard of Fallkniven from a Kiwi friend.

I have a couple of ESEE fixed knives and they are built like tanks. I don’t do much camping or bushcraff stuff. At least these days. The ESEE was great for when I did more outdoor type stuff when I lived in WA state.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on October 09, 2018, 08:51:21 AM
isn't ZT the professional line of Kershaw?  thought I read that somewhere.


this one caught my eye recently.  I have another knife designed by the same guy and have another on order but those 2 are Boker knives
https://www.bokerusa.com/pocketknives/fox/fox-knives/desert-fox-g10-01fx081
can probably find cheaper somewhere else.  prices here are more like retail
other Fox knives:  https://www.bokerusa.com/fox-knives/?p=1

(https://media.midwayusa.com/productimages/880x660/Primary/737/737148.jpg)
Someone once told my ZT was started by the “best guys” at Kershaw who started their own thing. That gave the blades a sort of “elite” aura. While that may have been true, just seems like a matter of collaboration with other designers and still under the larger parent company. All I really care about is if the knives are quality and ZT seems to fit in that category.

I haven’t tried Boker, but I’ve seen some of their folders and fixed that I was tempted to try. They seem generally reasonably priced. At least the ones I was looking at.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on October 09, 2018, 10:05:07 AM

I haven’t tried Boker, but I’ve seen some of their folders and fixed that I was tempted to try. They seem generally reasonably priced. At least the ones I was looking at.

Boker has different brandings:
Boker Manufaktur Solingen which is their premium line made in Solingen Germany
Boker Arbolito made in Argentina
Boker Plus is not made in Germany.  could be in US, Europe or Asia
Magnum by Boker is their most affordable line mostly made in China

I have a couple fixed blades from Boker Arbolito.  they are well made and both came with a really nice leather sheath
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: changemyoil66 on October 09, 2018, 02:03:02 PM
That's why you carry more than one knife.  A beater for daily tasks and one for self defense.  I guess it all comes down to how well you take care of your shit.  I still have my first pair of Oakleys that I bought with my first paycheck in 1998.  Those suckers turned 20 years old.  My wife however can't keep a pair of sunglasses for more than a few years, her record was losing some Maui Jim's I bought her in 2 months.

So if you can take care of a nice knife, treat yourself.  If you can't, stick to cheap ones.

True, but for me, if I had a $400 knife in my pocket, I wouldn't want to do anything with it but show it off.  I do have a range knife that so far has been used to cut cord, card board, and tennis balls.  It's actually a $140 dollar knife, but the wife got it at the CKRT factory and they gave her a 50% off coupon.  So it only cost $70.

I had an Oakley sunglasses that I bought in 2002.  Got stolen when my car was broken into.  It was in the compartment above the mirror.  But no big deal, they were pretty bus up and I only wore them when changing my battery (once ever few years).
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on October 09, 2018, 04:35:44 PM
Boker has different brandings:
Boker Manufaktur Solingen which is their premium line made in Solingen Germany
Boker Arbolito made in Argentina
Boker Plus is not made in Germany.  could be in US, Europe or Asia
Magnum by Boker is their most affordable line mostly made in China

I have a couple fixed blades from Boker Arbolito.  they are well made and both came with a really nice leather sheath
Where have you been buying them? I’ve seen some on Amazon, but also some what wary until I know which are the trusted vendors.

I’ve been browsing sites like BladeHQ and a few others.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on October 09, 2018, 05:05:05 PM
Where have you been buying them? I’ve seen some on Amazon, but also some what wary until I know which are the trusted vendors.

I’ve been browsing sites like BladeHQ and a few others.

I usually go Ebay or Amazon.  theres a few sellers on Ebay that are pretty good that I have saved on my list.  lately I've been going more on Ebay but make sure that the seller is legit
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on October 09, 2018, 05:08:12 PM
I usually go Ebay or Amazon.  theres a few sellers on Ebay that are pretty good that I have saved on my list.  lately I've been going more on Ebay but make sure that the seller is legit
Ahh. Gotcha. I’ve been doing similar for some blades (Lehrer brands) as well as some stuff like lights and other gear. I’ll take a look and hit you up if I see any items or vendors that catch my interest.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on October 09, 2018, 05:35:57 PM
Ahh. Gotcha. I’ve been doing similar for some blades (Lehrer brands) as well as some stuff like lights and other gear. I’ll take a look and hit you up if I see any items or vendors that catch my interest.

 :shaka:

Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: WTF?Shane on October 09, 2018, 10:44:19 PM
Save yourself a few bucks and buy used/pre-owned. Then beat it up because you didn't pay full price for it.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on October 10, 2018, 07:18:14 AM
here are the ebay stores that I have bought from and had good experience, fast shipping and is either cheap shipping or free.  tracking # when it ships usually the same day or next business day

http://www.ebaystores.com/The-Sharpest-Store-On-The-Web?_rdc=1

http://www.ebaystores.com/eCop-Police-Supply?_rdc=1   (this store sells a lot of gun stuff too)

https://www.ebay.com/str/Mountainclmbr?_trksid=p2047675.l2563

Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on October 10, 2018, 09:56:03 AM
here are the ebay stores that I have bought from and had good experience, fast shipping and is either cheap shipping or free.  tracking # when it ships usually the same day or next business day

http://www.ebaystores.com/The-Sharpest-Store-On-The-Web?_rdc=1

http://www.ebaystores.com/eCop-Police-Supply?_rdc=1   (this store sells a lot of gun stuff too)

https://www.ebay.com/str/Mountainclmbr?_trksid=p2047675.l2563
Cool. I’ll check those vendors out. Haven’t been looking that much, but will be looking around soon. So many choices.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on October 10, 2018, 10:00:31 AM
Save yourself a few bucks and buy used/pre-owned. Then beat it up because you didn't pay full price for it.  :thumbsup:
I’m ok with pre-owned if the blade is clean and edge looks very good.

When I lived in WA state and did more outdoor stuff, my blades definitely got good use and even abuse in some cases. Don’t really see that living here now, but even if it’s an expensive knife, I wouldn’t think twice about it. Many times, people overthink things. It’s a tool.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: jaynick on October 10, 2018, 11:37:30 AM
Anyone got recommendations on a place that sells knife parts or could give me some information.

I have a Kershaw Sapphire and the screws holding the body together fell out and are gone. 
Its a discontinued model so Kershaw doesn't have parts

Anyone know where I can find screws that small,  or have spares or possibly know what size screws I'm looking for?

I know I could just buy a new one,  but it was cheap, $20, probably because it was getting discontinued and I should have gotten 2, but I like the size of it and haven't really seen anything else that has caught my eye

I have a ton of kershaw pocket clip screws with the same pitch but none are long enough. Id bet a frame screw from a shallot or a leek would fit. Same generation and similar handle thickness.

Thats a collectible. Those older kershaws are much better than current ones minus maybe the usa made dividend and link in m390.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on October 10, 2018, 11:44:49 AM
couple other websites that might interest you:

https://deadwoodknives.com/    (I've ordered 2 Boker Arbolito fixed blades from here)

https://newgraham.com/Knives/    (never ordered from here, but I like to look at the higher end knives they have)
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on October 15, 2018, 12:42:46 PM
I picked up another Boker knife designed by Boris Manasherov called the Masada folder
this one is about 1 inch longer than my previous Wildcat karambit style folder
both work very well.  ball bearing is smooth, easy to open with the flipper, D2 steel, G10 grips, feels great in my hand.  both are great folders, 2 of my best folders, very well made.  both were about $85

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1976/43526612480_d9b01ee832_b.jpg)
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1964/43526612590_a9e3e62f7b_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on October 15, 2018, 06:45:07 PM
I picked up another Boker knife designed by Boris Manasherov called the Masada folder
this one is about 1 inch longer than my previous Wildcat karambit style folder
both work very well.  ball bearing is smooth, easy to open with the flipper, D2 steel, G10 grips, feels great in my hand.  both are great folders, 2 of my best folders, very well made.  both were about $85

SNIP
Nice!

I've been wanting a fixed karambit for a while.  A buddy is an instructor in eskrima/arnis and got me into techniques with the karambit.  I really want one of the skeleton type (without grip panels) for appendix carry.  I haven't looked into folders, but I've seen you post a few that got me interested.  I tend to stick to straight to convex blade profiles for ease of sharpening, but will give the karambits a try. 
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on October 30, 2018, 05:23:11 PM
thinking about getting one of these

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEBcmKKYVPs


Or the Ken Onion edition. Not sure which one I should get

https://youtu.be/shx_H58jX3w
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: jaynick on October 30, 2018, 07:33:30 PM
Ken onion+blade grinder attachment  :thumbsup:
Its what i have. I just dont have room for a permanently mounted 2x72"
  the ken onion is so small i can move it anywhere in the house. Fine metal dust is nasty though so i always bring it to the patio.
If you have the room then id build a full size one. There are plans online. it only cost a little more than the ken onion and blade grinder attachment.  Belts for these little belt sanders are pricey and i already wore one machine out after about 5 years of decent use. I have no idea how many belt sets ive been through but im positive a 2x72 would have been cheaper in the long run. I tried buying 3rd party belts and none come close to the premium belts that come with the kit. Factory belt kit comes with only 1 of each grit for 20 bucks. theyre only 1x18" so they wear out quickly if you have anything above s30v. Id guess 5-6 premium knives or 15 softer kitchen knives

thinking about getting one of these

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEBcmKKYVPs


Or the Ken Onion edition. Not sure which one I should get

https://youtu.be/shx_H58jX3w
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on October 31, 2018, 09:59:40 AM
A few guys on another forum have that Ken Onion thing and they love it.  I don't have a workshop space for something like that, but I would definitely consider it if I did have say a workshop or garage space.  For now, I stick with whetstone. 

The only system I considered was the one where you have the blade in a vice and it has arms with stones and I think leather straps on each side.  I think it's the Wicked sharpening system or something like that.  A custom knife builder that I know uses that to finish blades and they are SUPER sharp! 
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on October 31, 2018, 01:20:07 PM
I don't really have much work space either, but I like that work sharp sharpener
for now i'm using a 2 sided diamond stone and it works well.  when I take my time I can get my knives to shave the hair off my arm pretty easily.
so I don't know if I really need the work sharp, but it does look like a cool piece of equipment to have
I've also considered the ones with the vice and the stone that holds it at specific angles.  I think that wicked sharpening system is like $700 for the pro model, less for other models.  or there's other brands that are much cheaper, I might try one of those first bc that wicked edge is pretty pricey

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bT8udISe3Nc&t=520s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPwcHjCA6gM
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on October 31, 2018, 02:16:35 PM
That's the one.  Wicked.  There was another that I looked at.  Maybe Lansky or something like that.  It was the same basic idea, but the base and arms were not as stout.  The Wicked system makes sense for my friend as he's using it in pretty much a business application where he's producing multiple blades each week.  But damn is that thing effective.  It's also great at concave sections of blades, where it sucks to sharpen those on stones. 
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on October 31, 2018, 04:41:29 PM
I would like to try one of these as well

https://lansky.com/index.php/products/dlx-5-stone-system/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n97hZbHtY2I

https://www.smithsproducts.com/diamond/arkansas-stone-precision-sharpening-system
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTD2Cg2hUVY
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on November 01, 2018, 07:54:02 AM
This was the Lansky system that I was considering buying.  It's been in my Amazon wishlist for a while. 

https://lansky.com/index.php/products/dlx-5-stone-system/ (https://lansky.com/index.php/products/dlx-5-stone-system/)

There was also another that was closer to the Wicked system that had the blade vertical, but I can't seem to find it now. 
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: Soleyobo on November 02, 2018, 05:02:20 AM
EDC is Spyderco Para 3

Is there not a knife length limit in Hawaii? 
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on November 21, 2018, 01:13:36 PM
made a little something for one of my favorite folders
its a snakeknot lanyard with titanium Punisher bead
it actually helps with drawing from my pocket when its clipped.  gives me a little more to grip so i'm not fumbling in my pocket for the knife, I just grip the lanyard with my last 2 digits and pull then the knife is right in my hand

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4883/45986067591_681c30153a_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on November 28, 2018, 07:50:01 AM
got this from ebay for about $40.  black Friday gift to myself
Kershaw Link 3.25" blade 420HC steel (not so great, but I guess ok for a cheap knife), speed safe assisted opening
pretty good for a cheap knife. my second Kershaw folder.  didn't like the first one bc it had the speed safe opening with a thumb stud, don't know why I bought it in the first place, this one uses a flipper which I like. 
on the smaller side of what I like to get, but I think it'll be real good for when I want something smaller and lighter.  feels real nice in the hand, just fits in my palm

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4901/45179243775_f773991824_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on November 28, 2018, 09:26:02 AM
got this from ebay for about $40.  black Friday gift to myself
Kershaw Link 3.25" blade 420HC steel (not so great, but I guess ok for a cheap knife), speed safe assisted opening
pretty good for a cheap knife. my second Kershaw folder.  didn't like the first one bc it had the speed safe opening with a thumb stud, don't know why I bought it in the first place, this one uses a flipper which I like. 
on the smaller side of what I like to get, but I think it'll be real good for when I want something smaller and lighter.  feels real nice in the hand, just fits in my palm

SNIP
Nice! 

And damn you!  I had sort of put off the search for knives as I got sidetracked with life, new TV, etc.   ;D  Anyways, I lost a bet to one of my best friend's son and now I owe him two knives.  So he calls me last night and says that he wants the Benchmade knife that his dad has.  Well, it's a $160 Benchmade.  But they no longer make it.  I was thinking I'd get him a couple of Kershaws or something.  But he goes, "uncle, you can just get me one Benchmade instead of the two that you OWE me".  The "owe" part was surely emphasized.  Haha.  Keeedz.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on November 28, 2018, 11:42:46 AM
I gave my nephew a Benchmade Osborne design knife for a graduation present when he graduated from police academy a while ago. 

I have an old school benchmade from the late '80's.  was pretty cheap back then around $20
back then their emblem said "Balisong" not "Benchmade"
my friend bought a Benchmade balisong back in the '80's and it was about $200.  now they go into the $300 range

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3868/14348773752_4c37c59ca0_b.jpg)
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3914/14350362475_1eea034871_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on November 28, 2018, 11:55:55 AM
I gave my nephew a Benchmade Osborne design knife for a graduation present when he graduated from police academy a while ago. 

I have an old school benchmade from the late '80's.  was pretty cheap back then around $20
back then their emblem said "Balisong" not "Benchmade"
my friend bought a Benchmade balisong back in the '80's and it was about $200.  now they go into the $300 range

One of my main EDC blades is a Benchmade that I bought at a gun show in WA state in the late 1990s.  It has the same balisong emblem.  I want to say that I paid like $50-60 for it.  Did a quick search and they no longer make it.  I see it on some Benchmade forums as a "vintage" knife.   ;D
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on November 28, 2018, 05:44:59 PM
One of my main EDC blades is a Benchmade that I bought at a gun show in WA state in the late 1990s.  It has the same balisong emblem.  I want to say that I paid like $50-60 for it.  Did a quick search and they no longer make it.  I see it on some Benchmade forums as a "vintage" knife.   ;D

maybe mine is vintage too.   :D
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on December 03, 2018, 03:44:03 PM
A buddy from AK is looking into these.  The link is for the fixed blade version.  The folder is nice, but also $490!  :(

https://www.bladehq.com/item--Andre-De-Villiers-Harpoon-Fixed--89561 (https://www.bladehq.com/item--Andre-De-Villiers-Harpoon-Fixed--89561)
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on December 04, 2018, 07:17:09 AM
A buddy from AK is looking into these.  The link is for the fixed blade version.  The folder is nice, but also $490!  :(

https://www.bladehq.com/item--Andre-De-Villiers-Harpoon-Fixed--89561 (https://www.bladehq.com/item--Andre-De-Villiers-Harpoon-Fixed--89561)

looks like a sturdy blade   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on December 04, 2018, 12:38:40 PM
looks like a sturdy blade   :thumbsup:
They have another one that was just released too.  The Megapoon or something like that. 

I was considering pick up one of their fixed blades, but now I'm leaning toward sticking with a Bradford.  Probably Guardian 3.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on December 04, 2018, 12:45:13 PM
They have another one that was just released too.  The Megapoon or something like that. 

I was considering pick up one of their fixed blades, but now I'm leaning toward sticking with a Bradford.  Probably Guardian 3.

Bradford makes good stuff.
I was considering one of their knives too.
but I got a Balisong instead bc it was on sale.   :D
I know Balisong isn't a great choice for self defense, but I just wanted it.  i'll post pics later when I get a chance to take some pics.  its a really nice balisong (Bradley Kimura, made by Bear Ops)
I still might get the Bradford later as well   :shaka:
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: macsak on December 04, 2018, 12:49:36 PM
They have another one that was just released too.  The Megapoon or something like that. 

I was considering pick up one of their fixed blades, but now I'm leaning toward sticking with a Bradford.  Probably Guardian 3.

not sure I want to see a "megapoon", much less own one
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on December 04, 2018, 12:55:59 PM
not sure I want to see a "megapoon", much less own one
;D

Don't lie!  You're keenly interested and you know it.   :rofl:

Haha.  When I saw the product name, I was like  :wtf:  But their money maker is the Harpoon, so I guess the larger version naturally is the Mega. . . Well, and they are from South Africa, so there's that.  8)
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: macsak on December 04, 2018, 03:52:27 PM
;D

Don't lie!  You're keenly interested and you know it.   :rofl:


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Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on December 05, 2018, 07:23:13 AM
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4891/31251739537_77f307d707_b.jpg)

got these on cyber Monday deals.  since the sale was good, no reason not to get them.   :thumbsup:
I already have a couple lower end balisongs, so these are a nice upgrade
the top one is better quality, made by Bear Ops. tighter tolerances, although with the torx screws you can adjust tension
the bottom one is better for doing tricks and handling. made by Bear and Son  I prefer the balance of these handles better than the straight handles like the top one, but that's just my opinion
description of each:

SpecificationsBlade Length: 3.875"
Cutting Edge: 3.5"
Closed Length: 5.25"
Overall Length: 8.875"
Blade Material: 154CM
Blade Thickness: 0.12"
Blade Style: Spear Point
Blade Grind: Flat
Blade Finish: Bead Blast
Handle Material: Steel with G10 scales
Handle Thickness: 0.54"
Locking Mechanism: Latch
Pocket Clip: None
Weight: 5.9 oz.
Made in the USA


SpecificationsBlade Length: 3.375"
Closed Length: 5.0"
Overall Length: 8.875"
Blade Material: 1095 Carbon Steel
Blade Style: Drop Point
Blade Grind: Hollow
Blade Finish: Black Powder Coat
Handle Material: Stainless Steel
Locking Mechanism: Latch
Pocket Clip: None
Weight: 5.0 oz.
Made in the USA
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: London808 on December 05, 2018, 03:26:44 PM
got these on cyber Monday deals.  since the sale was good, no reason not to get them.   :thumbsup:
I already have a couple lower end balisongs, so these are a nice upgrade
the top one is better quality, made by Bear Ops. tighter tolerances, although with the torx screws you can adjust tension
the bottom one is better for doing tricks and handling. made by Bear and Son  I prefer the balance of these handles better than the straight handles like the top one, but that's just my opinion
description of each:

And they are currently stored outside the state oh Hawaii.

[§134-53]  Butterfly knives; prohibitions; penalty.  (a)  Whoever knowingly manufactures, sells, transfers, possesses, or transports in the State any butterfly knife, being a knife having a blade encased in a split handle that manually unfolds with hand or wrist action with the assistance of inertia, gravity or both, shall be guilty of a misdemeanor.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: WTF?Shane on December 05, 2018, 03:27:51 PM
And they are currently stored outside the state oh Hawaii.

Or OP lives in another state?
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on December 05, 2018, 03:44:43 PM
And they are currently stored outside the state oh Hawaii.

[§134-53]  Butterfly knives; prohibitions; penalty.  (a)  Whoever knowingly manufactures, sells, transfers, possesses, or transports in the State any butterfly knife, being a knife having a blade encased in a split handle that manually unfolds with hand or wrist action with the assistance of inertia, gravity or both, shall be guilty of a misdemeanor.

yes, I forgot that they are kept out of state.   ;)
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: macsak on December 05, 2018, 03:53:51 PM
yes, I forgot that they are kept out of state.   ;)

no one here does anything illegal...
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: WTF?Shane on December 05, 2018, 06:02:41 PM
Since we can't own them here, I have this.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4806/45285800375_bddb3c0460_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on December 05, 2018, 07:06:34 PM
yes, I forgot that they are kept out of state.   ;)
Mine too!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on December 05, 2018, 07:08:22 PM
We are all adults and responsible for our own actions. We can all appreciate a nice blade!
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: macsak on December 05, 2018, 07:43:58 PM
We are all adults and responsible for our own actions. We can all appreciate a nice blade!

and drck can appreciate a nice megapoon...
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on December 05, 2018, 07:55:32 PM
and drck can appreciate a nice megapoon...
Megapoon envy!
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: Heavies on December 06, 2018, 09:25:15 AM
(https://scontent.fhnl1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/47375624_2021849954774599_5569358485851734016_o.jpg?_nc_cat=102&_nc_ht=scontent.fhnl1-1.fna&oh=ae674f334a9b196860112e5b7d15abe1&oe=5C978B91)
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: WTF?Shane on December 06, 2018, 12:26:28 PM
(https://scontent.fhnl1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/47375624_2021849954774599_5569358485851734016_o.jpg?_nc_cat=102&_nc_ht=scontent.fhnl1-1.fna&oh=ae674f334a9b196860112e5b7d15abe1&oe=5C978B91)

That looks pretty cool. Who makes this?
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on December 07, 2018, 11:48:52 AM
Snip
Tactical facial hair tool?  ;D
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on December 07, 2018, 11:58:02 AM
Since looking into blades more recently, got back into more of the details, including different blade materials, shapes/grinds, etc. Like guns, there are many choices, each with pros and cons, depending on intended use. I usually look at blade shape, but have been looking closer at the material lately, and even more so after discussing with another forum member.

I own a range of knives in prices and blade materials. I also enjoy sharpening knives and have learned along the way that the blade material is important. Learned at first with diving knives a long time ago and how cheaper blades can be corrosion resistant, but practically impossible to sharpen or hold an edge. Now with the newer “premium” steels, they are great and retaining and edge, but need a little more effort to sharpen. I have a few in m390 and 20CV (added another m390 recently) that I’ve been testing and using more lately.


Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: macsak on December 07, 2018, 12:17:29 PM
Tactical facial hair tool?  ;D

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Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on December 07, 2018, 01:37:44 PM
Since looking into blades more recently, got back into more of the details, including different blade materials, shapes/grinds, etc. Like guns, there are many choices, each with pros and cons, depending on intended use. I usually look at blade shape, but have been looking closer at the material lately, and even more so after discussing with another forum member.

I own a range of knives in prices and blade materials. I also enjoy sharpening knives and have learned along the way that the blade material is important. Learned at first with diving knives a long time ago and how cheaper blades can be corrosion resistant, but practically impossible to sharpen or hold an edge. Now with the newer “premium” steels, they are great and retaining and edge, but need a little more effort to sharpen. I have a few in m390 and 20CV (added another m390 recently) that I’ve been testing and using more lately.

me too
lately I've been researching knives more than firearms.  no need to research firearms right now bc I already know what revolver I want next.   :thumbsup:
recently ordered a guided sharpener, kind of cheap one just to see how it is
learning that my D2 steel holds the edge but it is harder to sharpen
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: Heavies on December 07, 2018, 06:50:32 PM
That looks pretty cool. Who makes this?

JHO Knives, GS2 model, out of Singapore.  They are having a sale right now, 15% off.  Seen them for a while, thought I'd give it a try.  Not cheap, but with the 15% off, thought why not.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: WTF?Shane on December 08, 2018, 11:06:22 PM
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3761/33311204966_c9325b9c73_c.jpg)

I think I prefer Emerson Knives. The bottom 2 (CQC-7 and Bulldog) are my current carry knives. The top one (Roadhouse) was retired because it had lockup issues. I also have a SOCFK and Mini CQC-15 that could use a touch up.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on December 10, 2018, 08:26:17 AM

I think I prefer Emerson Knives. The bottom 2 (CQC-7 and Bulldog) are my current carry knives. The top one (Roadhouse) was retired because it had lockup issues. I also have a SOCFK and Mini CQC-15 that could use a touch up.
I've heard good things about Emerson knives.  I got interested in them after talking with a buddy in Guam who is heavy in to eskrima and kali.  He carries a couple of fixed karambits and he recommended Emerson.  Is that CQC-7 an older one?  I haven't seen them without the wave thing on them. 

Seems like you're a fan of the tanto blade shape.  I know many folks who really like tantos as well.  I have a couple, but I tend to stick to drop points and spear points.  I have tended to stay away from tantos mostly due to taking more time to sharpen and a technique that I haven't really gotten good at. 
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: WTF?Shane on December 10, 2018, 09:09:27 PM
I've heard good things about Emerson knives.  I got interested in them after talking with a buddy in Guam who is heavy in to eskrima and kali.  He carries a couple of fixed karambits and he recommended Emerson.  Is that CQC-7 an older one?  I haven't seen them without the wave thing on them. 

Seems like you're a fan of the tanto blade shape.  I know many folks who really like tantos as well.  I have a couple, but I tend to stick to drop points and spear points.  I have tended to stay away from tantos mostly due to taking more time to sharpen and a technique that I haven't really gotten good at.

A few years ago, I watched some Doug Marcaida and Ernest Emerson videos, and that got me into karambits and balisongs. I purchased an Emerson folding karambit and trainer, but I'm uncoordinated and have no martial arts background. I thought I would probably cut myself, so I sold them.

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3848/14567566614_de5a028961_z.jpg)

My CQC-7 is a newer production, I think 2015. The original CQC-7, produced by Benchmade, was waveless.

I didn't think I was a fan of tanto blades, but I do have a few. Here is a pic of a few other Emerson's that I have and had. Zealot (sold), Mini Roadhouse (traded), Mini CQC-15, and SOCFK.

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7573/16234741245_a0f6f9de46_z.jpg)
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on December 11, 2018, 08:19:55 AM
got this one from Amazon
one of those cheap knives made in China that keep popping up on my screen suggesting that I buy it, so eventually I did!   ;D
its a CH3504-G10, company is Eafengrow.  it has G10 grips, D2 steel, ball bearing pivot, flipper, overall I was really surprised at the quality.  its a really good knife for $34.99
before I bought it, I did a little research online and youtube and all the reviews were very good, surprised at the quality just like I was.  the ball bearing pivot and flipper really work well, pivots smooth like butter.
its a 3.5" blade, overall length is 8.5"
i'll probably get a couple more models of this brand.  a few of the models are copies of big name brands but much cheaper.  quality is very good.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4917/46226025192_95e12b8d0f_b.jpg)
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4810/32404656778_856171e179_b.jpg)

here's a review on this knife
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFj8pHScoLM&t=470s
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: hvybarrels on December 11, 2018, 10:07:19 AM
Those eafengrow knives look like an incredible deal and the sellers know it. Price already went up $5
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on December 11, 2018, 10:36:19 AM

my mistake, I paid 34.99.  I just looked at my order page.  still a good deal tho
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on December 11, 2018, 12:35:10 PM
A few years ago, I watched some Doug Marcaida and Ernest Emerson videos, and that got me into karambits and balisongs. I purchased an Emerson folding karambit and trainer, but I'm uncoordinated and have no martial arts background. I thought I would probably cut myself, so I sold them.

My CQC-7 is a newer production, I think 2015. The original CQC-7, produced by Benchmade, was waveless.

I didn't think I was a fan of tanto blades, but I do have a few. Here is a pic of a few other Emerson's that I have and had. Zealot (sold), Mini Roadhouse (traded), Mini CQC-15, and SOCFK.

Ya.  I'm no expert on karambits as well.  But the way my buddy explained his use and ideas behind them, I was interested.  One way he uses in SD situation is like that Colonel blade (or something like that) from BCM.  It's based on a punching motion, which most folks are at least basically familiar with.

Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on December 11, 2018, 02:00:11 PM
Those Eafengrow look like nice blades period, and even more so for the price.  The CH3504-G10 is pretty close to the overall style that I prefer these days.  Flipper, drop point, and liner lock.  I might have to order one or two of those to give them a try.  That and I already have my eye on a Boker flipper as well. 
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on December 11, 2018, 03:59:49 PM
i'm going to get this one next CH0456, which is a copy of the ZT0456
I think there are 3 different options for the G10 grips

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRk86r-jpVc
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on December 11, 2018, 04:36:22 PM
i'm going to get this one next CH0456, which is a copy of the ZT0456
I think there are 3 different options for the G10 grips

I was just gonna say from the previous one that you posted that they seem like ZT clones. But they also have lots of others on Amazon. Very tempted to try some of these just because they seem decent and priced very well.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on December 11, 2018, 04:39:35 PM
Here are some ZTs that I picked up recently. Got a good deal on a few of them from a forum member.

Top to bot
0909
562
0566
0770

Two are gifts. The 0770 will likely be one of my main daily carry blades.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on December 11, 2018, 04:45:03 PM
The middle is a Kershaw Cryo than I’ve had for years. A very good knife and available for around $20-25. Steel isn’t the highest quality, but worked out well for me.

The bottom is a Benchmade Presidio that I’ve also had for a while. It’s a little bulky for my typical work attire, but love this knife. I have a Benchmade trainer that is very similar to this design as well.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on December 11, 2018, 04:58:25 PM
Here are some ZTs that I picked up recently. Got a good deal on a few of them from a forum member.

Top to bot
0909
562
0566
0770

Two are gifts. The 0770 will likely be one of my main daily carry blades.

nice!   :thumbsup:
ZT makes really great knives! 
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on December 12, 2018, 10:52:50 AM
Those Eafengrow look like nice blades period, and even more so for the price.  The CH3504-G10 is pretty close to the overall style that I prefer these days.  Flipper, drop point, and liner lock.  I might have to order one or two of those to give them a try.  That and I already have my eye on a Boker flipper as well.

which Boker are you looking at?
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on December 12, 2018, 10:58:30 AM
which Boker are you looking at?
The Caracal flipper. And somewhat the JB Stout flipper.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on December 12, 2018, 10:59:42 AM
nice!   :thumbsup:
ZT makes really great knives!
Carrying one today. The boxes and packages that I receive in the mail or UPS/FedEx better watch out!  :P
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on December 12, 2018, 01:14:52 PM
The Caracal flipper. And somewhat the JB Stout flipper.

Caracal designer is same that designed 2 of my Boker's which I really like.  Wildcat and Masada folder.  I prefer the smaller Wildcat one due to its quicker flipper deployment.  they recently came out with a larger wildcat model with a 3.25" blade which I might pick up too
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: jaynick on December 13, 2018, 10:44:25 AM
Those are actually pretty good. I have the jade 0456 clone pictured.  A friend ordered a bunch of various styles so i said ok ill take one.
You can get them direct from china for less than 35.. Usually 20-25.
Id buy more of their stuff if half their line werent exact copies of us made/designed knives minus the logos. I dont like to support knockoffs. Also the steel is not d2. But whatever it is, its a little better than the 8cr13mov that comes with a lot of knives nowadays. They even offer premium knives in "m390"

Twosun knives are another one to check out. They dont do knockoffs and are of good quality. one of the more respected budget chinese brands.
We knives and reate are at the zt level of fit n finish but the prices are actually higher than made in usa knives so i dont own any yet. There are a few models i want, but i refuse to spend 300+ on a knife made in china and designed by some chinese guy named "jack"

i'm going to get this one next CH0456, which is a copy of the ZT0456
I think there are 3 different options for the G10 grips

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRk86r-jpVc
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on December 13, 2018, 12:57:19 PM
Those are actually pretty good. I have the jade 0456 clone pictured.  A friend ordered a bunch of various styles so i said ok ill take one.
You can get them direct from china for less than 35.. Usually 20-25.
Id buy more of their stuff if half their line werent exact copies of us made/designed knives minus the logos. I dont like to support knockoffs. Also the steel is not d2. But whatever it is, its a little better than the 8cr13mov that comes with a lot of knives nowadays. They even offer premium knives in "m390"

Twosun knives are another one to check out. They dont do knockoffs and are of good quality. one of the more respected budget chinese brands.
We knives and reate are at the zt level of fit n finish but the prices are actually higher than made in usa knives so i dont own any yet. There are a few models i want, but i refuse to spend 300+ on a knife made in china and designed by some chinese guy named "jack"
You and stang making me check out so many blades!  And I just acquired a few nice blades recently.  They were from some shady dude [kidding] selling them out of the back of their car in a Walmart parking lot, but he came highly recommended from Mac, so I figure give it a shot.   ;D

I hear you on knockoffs.  I tend to stick to the real deal stuff and often pay more as a result.  I've been burned so many times with the cheap stuff in knives and firearms.  That said, I'm all for trying out the more "price friendly" versions, especially if they seem to be good quality and vetted by others (like you and stang  ;D ). 
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: macsak on December 13, 2018, 01:08:48 PM
They were from some shady dude [kidding] selling them out of the back of their car in a Walmart parking lot, but he came highly recommended from Mac, so I figure give it a shot.   ;D

your problem was taking a recommendation from someone who said, "wapner's on at 7"
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on December 13, 2018, 01:41:57 PM
I also prefer the real deal knives instead of knockoffs, but sometimes the knockoffs are pretty good!  :D
I'm always real skeptical when getting a cheap knife.

The knife I find in my pocket most nowadays is my Kershaw Link.
It's small and light, speedsafe opener, made in USA, has a great fit in my hand, 420HC steel which ain't the best but my daily uses are unpacking boxes and cutting plastic straps for laundry since I work in an outpatient clinic. It's mostly a cutting tool for me, but can be used defensively if needed.
If I'm not at work I'll switch out to a Boker or CRKT blades
This last Eafengrow knife I got is very good for the money if someone wants a less expensive tool. Just nice to have options.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: jaynick on December 15, 2018, 10:40:58 PM
The link also comes in m390  >:D
I also prefer the real deal knives instead of knockoffs, but sometimes the knockoffs are pretty good!  :D
I'm always real skeptical when getting a cheap knife.

The knife I find in my pocket most nowadays is my Kershaw Link.
It's small and light, speedsafe opener, made in USA, has a great fit in my hand, 420HC steel which ain't the best but my daily uses are unpacking boxes and cutting plastic straps for laundry since I work in an outpatient clinic. It's mostly a cutting tool for me, but can be used defensively if needed.

Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on December 16, 2018, 08:32:58 AM
The link also comes in m390  >:D

I might have to get that too.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on December 16, 2018, 08:43:09 AM
https://youtu.be/x-5ASxHnAAg

https://youtu.be/2JXtN9ARzZY

https://youtu.be/CkZw7lR3Bug

https://youtu.be/RJ0Yw1hRlQc

https://youtu.be/C_J5-jRvMM4

https://youtu.be/j_p8p6L2OTA

Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: jaynick on December 16, 2018, 09:09:31 AM
Hey at least we didnt meet in a pitch dark public park parking lot next to a public bathroom for "flashlights", right mac?  ;)
I think that used to be called 'cruising'

You and stang making me check out so many blades!  And I just acquired a few nice blades recently.  They were from some shady dude [kidding] selling them out of the back of their car in a Walmart parking lot, but he came highly recommended from Mac, so I figure give it a shot.   ;D

I hear you on knockoffs.  I tend to stick to the real deal stuff and often pay more as a result.  I've been burned so many times with the cheap stuff in knives and firearms.  That said, I'm all for trying out the more "price friendly" versions, especially if they seem to be good quality and vetted by others (like you and stang  ;D ).
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: macsak on December 16, 2018, 09:23:32 AM
Hey at least we didnt meet in a pitch dark public park parking lot next to a public bathroom for "flashlights", right mac?  ;)
I think that used to be called 'cruising'

heads
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on December 16, 2018, 09:51:10 AM
I might have to get that too.  :thumbsup:
#bladeaddiction

My knife collection has really grown lately. Was looking at one of those storage bags that has 12 slots and you it up. Might have to get the 24 or 36 capacity version.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on December 16, 2018, 09:51:54 AM
Hey at least we didnt meet in a pitch dark public park parking lot next to a public bathroom for "flashlights", right mac?  ;)
I think that used to be called 'cruising'
Perfect place to test the flashlights?  ;D

Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on December 16, 2018, 09:54:06 AM
SEC is running a sale on blades. Picked up a Benchmade Boost for a present and another ZT for myself. Tempted to go back and see what they have left next week.  :crazy:

With the discount, the pricing on some were lower than what I found online. I like to support the local shops here and there always as well.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on December 17, 2018, 10:44:00 AM
Checked out the We and Medford knives. The We brand, and their budget Civivi line look like a wide range of quality and steel. Seems like a Kershaw and ZT range. There are some that caught my eye, but at the procing of the We, I’d stick with ZT and other US made knives.

Those Medford’s also seem nice, but pricey as well.

Was looking at Sypderco as well and reading about the wharncliff shape. So many different choices.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on December 17, 2018, 12:33:50 PM
#bladeaddiction

My knife collection has really grown lately. Was looking at one of those storage bags that has 12 slots and you it up. Might have to get the 24 or 36 capacity version.

Checked out the We and Medford knives. The We brand, and their budget Civivi line look like a wide range of quality and steel. Seems like a Kershaw and ZT range. There are some that caught my eye, but at the procing of the We, I’d stick with ZT and other US made knives.

Those Medford’s also seem nice, but pricey as well.

Was looking at Sypderco as well and reading about the wharncliff shape. So many different choices.

I bought a few for black Friday/cyber Monday.  I still want to get a few more.  I guess it is an addiction.   :D
theres always something new that I run across that is better than what I already have and I need to get it.  not really need but I want to get it. 
now i'm trying to save my money for better quality knives as I learn more of what works better and what is better steel.
I have a couple Kershaws coming in a few days. I'll post pics when they come in
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on December 18, 2018, 11:00:37 AM
I haven't looked, but I recon' these ones are well out of my price range

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TJzPlWnmKs
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on December 18, 2018, 11:59:50 AM
I haven't looked, but I recon' these ones are well out of my price range

Go for it!  Go ahead yourself to something (or somethings) nice for Christmas!   ;D  You're worth totally worth it! 

Chris Reeve knives are very nice.  A friend has one.  I'm definitely a fan of the Hinder design and I have a few from Kershaw and ZT.  At $350-500 range, I was open to the Chris Reeve and similar price range, but not right now as I ended up with a few at a lower price point.  Maybe one day. . .

I came close to ordering a Wicked Edge Go Deluxe this past weekend.  I still might before the holidays are up, but for now I'll stick with my stones and Spyderco Sharpmaker.  My dad was pretty rough on his knives and I found a few nicer ones that I am going to spend some time and sharpening them.  One is a D2, so will be the first time working with that steel.  The other is a tanto shape (not sure the steel, but it's a Benchmade), so another opportunity to practice sharpening that shape (which I'm not really good at now).  Also been playing around with stropping and that seems to make a difference if you're trying to get super sharp. 

My friend in TN who makes custom knives has the Wicked Edge pro system and he can get the blades unreal sharp.  I mean abunai level of sharp and have heard of many folks cutting themselves.  I have to admit that I was careless one time when unsheathing one and it drew blood.   :(  I can get most of my knives pretty sharp with stones and stuff, but not able to get them like how he can.  That's where I started trying stropping and that seems to make a difference.  I mean, I can get my knives very sharp with just the stones and stuff, but the stropping seems to take it to another level. 
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on December 18, 2018, 12:04:28 PM
I bought a few for black Friday/cyber Monday.  I still want to get a few more.  I guess it is an addiction.   :D
theres always something new that I run across that is better than what I already have and I need to get it.  not really need but I want to get it. 
now i'm trying to save my money for better quality knives as I learn more of what works better and what is better steel.
I have a couple Kershaws coming in a few days. I'll post pics when they come in
I hear ya.  I've always been into knives and have many that I don't "need" but bought just because I wanted it. 

I'm in a similar position where I am tempted to buy the more budget friendly knives to try and stuff, but I'm trying to stick to the better quality knives.  As mentioned in the other post, I now have some knives to refine my sharpening techniques and that's where I think I'll be focusing on for now.  My knives don't get that much use on a daily basis.  I have a cheapo Stanley boxcutter that I have at home that I use to open up boxes and break them down.  I now have a fixed blade and a folder or two that I have been using more with intent to "use" them more or less to have to sharpen them.  Haha.  I used to make more use out of my knives when I lived in WA, but not really much these days.  The harshest I am on the knife in my pocket now is making a toothpick out of a chopstick. . .  ::)  8)
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on December 19, 2018, 08:24:02 AM
Spent some time to clean up one of my dad's Benchmade tantos last night.  Mostly cleaning up gunk, but also opportunity to practice sharpening the tanto shape.  I used a whetstone and I was able to get both edges pretty sharp, but I also ended up mucking up the transition between the two edges.  I knew that was one of the key aspects of sharpening a tanto shape, but I think I went too fast on the coarse stone.  I should have started with the finer (1000 grit) stone and just gone slowly and see if that was enough.  Lesson learned and need more practice.  I think I'll be giving the Benchmade tanto to my BIL, so I ordered a cheaper Kershaw tanto to use as practice knife for the tanto shape.  I really do like the tanto shape, but the PITA aspect of sharpening was one of the main reasons that I stayed away from them for the most part. 
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on December 19, 2018, 12:28:40 PM
https://youtu.be/P8Daxjx9gfI
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on December 21, 2018, 07:25:36 AM
picked up a couple more Kershaw's.   :D
I already had the top one for maybe a month.  the Link.  which I like very much for a compact EDC.
the other 2 are similar in size, bottom one grip is about  .25" longer and is much slimmer than the other 2
top and bottom ones are made in USA, middle one is not although fit and finish are still good
for carry, maybe the bottom one is best just bc its slimmer and very lightweight.  otherwise each one is very good





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Link:
SpeedSafe Assisted Opening
Blade Length: 3.25" (8.4 cm)
Handle Length: 4.4" (11.2 cm)
Overall Length: 7.6" (19.3 cm)
Blade Steel: 420HC, Black-Oxide Blackwash Finish
Handle Material: Machined Aluminum
Weight: 4.8 oz. (136.1 g)
Made in the USA

Vedder:
SpeedSafe Assisted Opening
Blade Length: 3.25" (8.3 cm)
Handle Length: 4.25" (10.8 cm)
Overall Length: 7.50" (19.0 cm)
Blade Steel: 8Cr13MoV Stainless Steel
Blade Shape: Sheepsfoot
Blade Finish: Gray Titanium Carbo-Nitride Coated
Handle Material: Gray Titanium Carbo-Nitride Coated Stainless Steel with 3D Machined G10 Overlays
Locking Mechanism: Frame Lock
Pocket Clip: Tip-Up, Right/Left Deep Carry
Weight: 4.1 oz. (118.0 g)

Knockout:
SpeedSafe Assisted Opening
Sub-Frame Lock
Flipper Mechanism
Deep Carry
Blade Length: 3.25"
Closed Length: 4.625"
Blade Steel: Sandvik 14C28N Stainless, Black DLC Coating
Handle Material: Aluminum
Made in the USA
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on December 21, 2018, 08:12:17 AM
Very nice Stang!   :thumbsup:

The Vedder looks a lot like the ZT 0393SW that I was looking at.  I was close to getting the Link that you got because if the tanto shape.  I ended up with a Kershaw Emerson model.  I too like the assisted flipper opening knives.  You should do some side-by-side challenges/tests.   ;D

I too have a couple of blades on the way that I found on sales recently.  That and just because I wanted them.  Haha

Lately, I've been carrying the ZT 0770 most days and the 0562 others.  Have been cleaning up stuff that involves breaking down old cardboard boxes, so they are getting some "real" use. 
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on December 21, 2018, 08:32:59 AM
Very nice Stang!   :thumbsup:

The Vedder looks a lot like the ZT 0393SW that I was looking at.  I was close to getting the Link that you got because if the tanto shape.  I ended up with a Kershaw Emerson model.  I too like the assisted flipper opening knives.  You should do some side-by-side challenges/tests.   ;D

I too have a couple of blades on the way that I found on sales recently.  That and just because I wanted them.  Haha

Lately, I've been carrying the ZT 0770 most days and the 0562 others.  Have been cleaning up stuff that involves breaking down old cardboard boxes, so they are getting some "real" use.

I was also looking at the Kershaw Bareknuckle 7777, based on the ZT 0777, which the ZT0770 I think is also based on.  although the Kershaw has cheaper steel and other differences than the ZT.
maybe one day I'll man up and get me a ZT blade.   :shaka:
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on December 24, 2018, 07:44:42 AM
bottom one just came yesterday, it was sold out of the jade grip so it took a few weeks longer to get it.  top one I've had for a couple weeks already
its a copy of the 0456 ZT, but it is far from a ZT
opening, there seems to be some binding in the pivot or bearings, but its just not smooth
theres no branding on the knife, no D2 markings.  unlike the top knife
fit and finish on the bottom one isn't that good either.  lanyard hole, and screw holes aren't smoothed out.  seems like its a 80% knife kit that someone put together and didn't finish it that well.
and it only has 1 side of steel liner.  it has a liner lock, but the other side theres no steel liner only the G10 grip.  never seen that before.  probably not the best for stability and longevity.
overall I would not recommend getting the bottom knife

the top one however is much better and I would recommend getting it if you want a cheaper knife that works well and is a good buy for the money
top one opens smooth.  the detent and the bearings make it seem almost like its a assisted opener, I mean its really smooth.
fit and finish is very good too
top knife was $35, bottom knife was $25

another thing I noticed, the top knife says CH and has markings for D2 and came a box very similar to the Boker blades I have, and box said CH and some Chinese writings
bottom knife came in a different box that said Eafengrow, and no other markings on the knife
definitely 2 different levels of quality, but only $10 difference in price


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Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on December 26, 2018, 06:52:08 PM
bottom one just came yesterday, it was sold out of the jade grip so it took a few weeks longer to get it.  top one I've had for a couple weeks already
its a copy of the 0456 ZT, but it is far from a ZT
opening, there seems to be some binding in the pivot or bearings, but its just not smooth
theres no branding on the knife, no D2 markings.  unlike the top knife
fit and finish on the bottom one isn't that good either.  lanyard hole, and screw holes aren't smoothed out.  seems like its a 80% knife kit that someone put together and didn't finish it that well.
and it only has 1 side of steel liner.  it has a liner lock, but the other side theres no steel liner only the G10 grip.  never seen that before.  probably not the best for stability and longevity.
overall I would not recommend getting the bottom knife

the top one however is much better and I would recommend getting it if you want a cheaper knife that works well and is a good buy for the money
top one opens smooth.  the detent and the bearings make it seem almost like its a assisted opener, I mean its really smooth.
fit and finish is very good too
top knife was $35, bottom knife was $25

another thing I noticed, the top knife says CH and has markings for D2 and came a box very similar to the Boker blades I have, and box said CH and some Chinese writings
bottom knife came in a different box that said Eafengrow, and no other markings on the knife
definitely 2 different levels of quality, but only $10 difference in price

Interesting that the quality can vary that greatly between those two. Did you buy them from the same vendor?


Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on December 26, 2018, 07:07:52 PM
Here are a couple that I bought just before Christmas.

The tanto is a Kershaw Emerson CQC-7K. At around $20, I assume it’s the low end version of the Emerson produced CQC. I bought it mainly to try out another tanto and a lesser expensive one to practice sharpening them. I have a couple of higher quality ones, but one was marked up through sharpening and general use.

For the Kershaw, I was disappointed with the quality.  I expected more from the Kershaw line, even the less expensive ones. The opening is pretty stiff. I tried applying oil and adjusting the pivot screw, but lightening seemed to have the blade get pushed against the side of the liner and made the opening worse. Then the frame lock was such that it is very tough to close the blade. Some working in and it’s a bit better, but it sometimes is still difficult to close.

The other is a Boker Caracal. Decently impressed with this one for the money. The opening was pretty smooth after applying a little oil. The blade is quite sharp and seems like it’s put together nicely. It’s my first Boker and am happy. I got this one as a test for this line as well as the D2 steel. Overall happy with this Boker and may try one of their fixed blades.

The bag is 12 capacity from BladeHQ. It can be hung from a hangar or has rings to be put on nails on a wall. I have mostly been rotating between three different ZTs, but the bag makes it easy to store the blades and pick one and go.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on December 26, 2018, 07:12:59 PM
Tried the Spyderco Sharpmaker today. I was able to get a very good edge on one of my Kershaws, but definitely could use some practice. I added the extra fine stones and a strop. I got the knife very sharp, but not as sharp as I’d like them nor as sharp as the ZTs and Benchmades I have came new. Also not as sharp as they seem to be able to get them on the YouTube videos. I can get my kitchen knives that sharp with water stones, but I was looking for a sharpening system that was quicker than whetstones.

Will have to give this system some time and practice, especially with different steels. The one that I tried tonight was 8cr13mov, so “ok” steel.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: WTF?Shane on December 26, 2018, 09:11:25 PM
Here are a couple that I bought just before Christmas.

The tanto is a Kershaw Emerson CQC-7K. At around $20, I assume it’s the low end version of the Emerson produced CQC. I bought it mainly to try out another tanto and a lesser expensive one to practice sharpening them. I have a couple of higher quality ones, but one was marked up through sharpening and general use.

For the Kershaw, I was disappointed with the quality.  I expected more from the Kershaw line, even the less expensive ones. The opening is pretty stiff. I tried applying oil and adjusting the pivot screw, but lightening seemed to have the blade get pushed against the side of the liner and made the opening worse. Then the frame lock was such that it is very tough to close the blade. Some working in and it’s a bit better, but it sometimes is still difficult to close.

Most of the Emerson knives I had needed some tweaking and breaking in. If the lock is a little stiff, mark it up with a pencil. The graphite will lubricate the lock surfaces.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: macsak on December 26, 2018, 09:13:04 PM
Most of the Emerson knives I had needed some tweaking and breaking in. If the lock is a little stiff, mark it up with a pencil. The graphite will lubricate the lock surfaces.

use spit
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: WTF?Shane on December 26, 2018, 09:20:25 PM
use spit

 :shaka:
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on December 27, 2018, 05:48:12 AM
Interesting that the quality can vary that greatly between those two. Did you buy them from the same vendor?

Both from Amazon, but ships from Eafengrow
Just 2 different levels of quality
Now, after applying some oil to the pivot and just opening it over and over, the 0456 is smooth opening but I still dont like that it only has 1 side of steel liner. It's ok for a box cutter, but defense i wouldn't depend on it too much

Glad you like the Boker Caracal. I have 2 Boker folders both by the same designer as your Caracal. The wildcat i really like, but the masada has a really weak detent so i really have to push it hard and fast to open it well. I might try bend the liner a bit and see if that helps

Now I'm looking at a ZT 0350 as a birthday present for my nephew who is a LEO. More of an EDC for him. I want to get him something good, but I dont want to break my wallet either.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: Rocky on December 27, 2018, 10:52:37 AM
    Man, do all of you guys sleep with your blades   :love: or am I just abusive  :P ?
Their all so nice and pretty, clean and unscathed.  :-*

    I must pull my EDC (Kershaw),at least  3-4 times a day and must sharpen regularily.
I use Kershaw, CRKT and Benchmade but I am looking for a decent "Working mans" EDC fixed blade.
There are so many blade materials and types it's mind boggling.  :crazy:
Any advice ?  :D
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on December 27, 2018, 01:03:05 PM
Most of the Emerson knives I had needed some tweaking and breaking in. If the lock is a little stiff, mark it up with a pencil. The graphite will lubricate the lock surfaces.
Thanks. I tried the pencil trick and it seemed to help. I had assumed it would loosen up as I used it, but none of my other knives, even cheaper or budget ones weren’t like that. To the point where I thought I might need a screw driver to pry the locking bar to open. Since it’s a frame lock, have to be careful with the lock on the “sharp” side of the blade.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on December 27, 2018, 01:07:41 PM
Both from Amazon, but ships from Eafengrow
Just 2 different levels of quality
Now, after applying some oil to the pivot and just opening it over and over, the 0456 is smooth opening but I still dont like that it only has 1 side of steel liner. It's ok for a box cutter, but defense i wouldn't depend on it too much

Glad you like the Boker Caracal. I have 2 Boker folders both by the same designer as your Caracal. The wildcat i really like, but the masada has a really weak detent so i really have to push it hard and fast to open it well. I might try bend the liner a bit and see if that helps

Now I'm looking at a ZT 0350 as a birthday present for my nephew who is a LEO. More of an EDC for him. I want to get him something good, but I dont want to break my wallet either.
Ahh. Gotcha on the Eafengrows. I have a few knives in the test queue now, so might look at those later.

Boker seems quite like Kershaw. They have a wide range of blades. I would say the Caracal seemed mid-high on their line.

That would be an awesome gift. I’ve seen many .mil and LE carrying that one. I don’t care for the recurve, so I stayed away from that one. Another in that price range is the 0566. I have one and have gotten it as a gift as well. I think SEC is still running a sale on knives. They have ZT, Benchmade, Spyderco and more.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on December 27, 2018, 01:12:18 PM
    Man, do all of you guys sleep with your blades   :love: or am I just abusive  :P ?
Their all so nice and pretty, clean and unscathed.  :-*

    I must pull my EDC (Kershaw),at least  3-4 times a day and must sharpen regularily.
I use Kershaw, CRKT and Benchmade but I am looking for a decent "Working mans" EDC fixed blade.
There are so many blade materials and types it's mind boggling.  :crazy:
Any advice ?  :D
Those all were NIB condition. A few of them have seen use, but mostly opening and cutting up boxes. You can tell use if you handle them, but tough to see in a pic.

Been looking harder into blade materials lately. I’ve mostly been referring to this as a guide:

https://knifeinformer.com/discovering-the-best-knife-steel/

I don’t have a favorite right now. I don’t really use my knives that much where I can probably tell that much of a difference. I like the promise of ability to hold and edge of the newer super steels, but I haven’t really used them much to tell.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on December 27, 2018, 03:20:35 PM
    Man, do all of you guys sleep with your blades   :love: or am I just abusive  :P ?
Their all so nice and pretty, clean and unscathed.  :-*

    I must pull my EDC (Kershaw),at least  3-4 times a day and must sharpen regularily.
I use Kershaw, CRKT and Benchmade but I am looking for a decent "Working mans" EDC fixed blade.
There are so many blade materials and types it's mind boggling.  :crazy:
Any advice ?  :D

My pics are also when I unbox them so they take nice pics  :shaka:
I'm not that knowledgeable about better quality steel. I have some of the 8cr, d2, sandvik14c. The d2 seems to hold the edge well but is harder to sharpen or just takes longer. The 8cr I have to sharpen more often but it's easier to sharpen. Sandvik14c is somewhere in the middle but I think is a better steel than d2. But I haven't had the sandvik long enough to make a good judgement.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on December 27, 2018, 03:22:19 PM
Ahh. Gotcha on the Eafengrows. I have a few knives in the test queue now, so might look at those later.

Boker seems quite like Kershaw. They have a wide range of blades. I would say the Caracal seemed mid-high on their line.

That would be an awesome gift. I’ve seen many .mil and LE carrying that one. I don’t care for the recurve, so I stayed away from that one. Another in that price range is the 0566. I have one and have gotten it as a gift as well. I think SEC is still running a sale on knives. They have ZT, Benchmade, Spyderco and more.

I'll look into the 0566 bc I'm not too keen on that recurve either.
Thanks  :shaka:
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on December 27, 2018, 03:35:03 PM
Here are a couple of blades that have seen quite a bit of use. The Benchmade tanto is one that has been used a lot and I’ve been practicing sharpening the tanto shape on that one. The sides of the blade is marred up. I tired to get a pic, but it’s tough to see. You can also see the transition between the two different sections is somewhat blended.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: oldfart on December 27, 2018, 03:46:24 PM
I bought 15 Uzis for Christmas deployments.
I was sick last week so they missed the sleigh ride.
These have just been prepped and inspected for deployment tonight.
They are inexpensive, rugged and faster to open than a Tijuana hooker.
They are  probably legal.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: jaynick on December 27, 2018, 07:57:11 PM
Having no liner on the show side isnt a big deal. G10 is strong. Other knives come that way, Ultra popular kershaw skyline for example.
My 0456 clone is near perfect. Its a lottery with these cheap knives and lights. When you get one with no faults you wonder how the hell they can offer something like it at their prices. Then u get a blem and then realize their qc and materials have corners cut. Its usually minor but ive even seen one where the blade was too long for the handle so itd prick you by 2mm.

To be honest even budget american companies arent that consistent either. When i buy knives i like i usually buy in pairs or even 3 at a time so i see the variations in fit n finish. I bought 4 kershaw cqc 4kxl's as gifts and every one had multiple differences in lockup and smoothness in flipping and most notably the g10 was finished differently. Two were matte one was satin and the last one was satin with rounded over edges.


Both from Amazon, but ships from Eafengrow
Just 2 different levels of quality
Now, after applying some oil to the pivot and just opening it over and over, the 0456 is smooth opening but I still dont like that it only has 1 side of steel liner. It's ok for a box cutter, but defense i wouldn't depend on it too much

Glad you like the Boker Caracal. I have 2 Boker folders both by the same designer as your Caracal. The wildcat i really like, but the masada has a really weak detent so i really have to push it hard and fast to open it well. I might try bend the liner a bit and see if that helps

Now I'm looking at a ZT 0350 as a birthday present for my nephew who is a LEO. More of an EDC for him. I want to get him something good, but I dont want to break my wallet either.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: jaynick on December 27, 2018, 08:11:55 PM
Whats your budget?
As far as steel, the m390 family(m390,cts204p,cpm20cv) is hard to beat. Thats almost always my recommendation. Also cts xhp is a good working steel and easier to sharpen. Too bad cold steel discontinued using that. You might be able to find a code 4 ctsxhp on ebay for cheap still. I got one for under 50.
    Man, do all of you guys sleep with your blades   :love: or am I just abusive  :P ?
Their all so nice and pretty, clean and unscathed.  :-*

    I must pull my EDC (Kershaw),at least  3-4 times a day and must sharpen regularily.
I use Kershaw, CRKT and Benchmade but I am looking for a decent "Working mans" EDC fixed blade.
There are so many blade materials and types it's mind boggling.  :crazy:
Any advice ?  :D
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on December 28, 2018, 11:17:06 AM
More practice with the Spyderco last night. Was able to get sharper than before, but not quite razor sharp. I mean it’s sharp enough for EDC type knife, but I kinda wanted to be able to be able to get them sharper if/when I wanted to.

I think the angle wasn’t quite right from previous to Spyderco angle, so I spent more time in the coarse stones with more pressure. Seemed like I was getting a good edge with the coarse and fine stones. Think I need to get better at finishing with the ultra fine stone and strop. I was sharpening a knife that was rated as easy to sharpen, so will need to get better before moving to the M390, 20CV and S90V blades that I have. I can sharpen them on regular whetstones, but they take quite a bit of time.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on December 28, 2018, 11:18:12 AM
Whats your budget?
As far as steel, the m390 family(m390,cts204p,cpm20cv) is hard to beat. Thats almost always my recommendation. Also cts xhp is a good working steel and easier to sharpen. Too bad cold steel discontinued using that. You might be able to find a code 4 ctsxhp on ebay for cheap still. I got one for under 50.
Been using the ZT with the M390 steel quite a bit and it does hold an edge for a while. Hope I can sharpen it well when the time comes.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: Rocky on December 28, 2018, 01:31:55 PM
Whats your budget?
As far as steel, the m390 family(m390,cts204p,cpm20cv) is hard to beat. Thats almost always my recommendation. Also cts xhp is a good working steel and easier to sharpen. Too bad cold steel discontinued using that. You might be able to find a code 4 ctsxhp on ebay for cheap still. I got one for under 50.

I have no budget for tools.  :o
I only cry once.  :'(
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on December 28, 2018, 02:30:48 PM
I have no budget for tools.  :o
I only cry once.  :'(
https://www.bladehq.com/item--Marfione-Strider-Custom-MSG-3--75776

Do it!
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: Rocky on December 28, 2018, 02:38:02 PM
https://www.bladehq.com/item--Marfione-Strider-Custom-MSG-3--75776

Do it!
Thanks but....
" I am looking for a decent "Working mans" EDC fixed blade."   ::)
Nice site though.  :D
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on December 28, 2018, 02:39:28 PM
Thanks but....
" I am looking for a decent "Working mans" EDC fixed blade."   ::)
Nice site though.  :D
Oops. Mixed the fixed part. Can def find some nice ones.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on December 28, 2018, 02:49:10 PM
Here are a few mid-range:

https://www.bladehq.com/item--Boker-Plus-Ridgeback-Fixed-Blade--17468

https://www.bladehq.com/item--Boker-Arbolito-El-H-roe-Fixed-Blade--25087

https://www.bladehq.com/item--Boker-Plus-Mosier-Fixed--6002

I’m prob gonna order a Bradford after the holidays.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on December 28, 2018, 04:49:08 PM
year end sale
I've always drooled over those Bark River knives as well as Blackjack.  very similar, a lot of different models. i think Blackjack is now made by Bark River

https://www.knifecenter.com/brand/670/Bark-River-Knives
https://www.knifecenter.com/series/bark-river-knives/bark-river-bravo-series   bravo series is a popular line
i have an old blackjack Gurkha style knife from the 80's that i used for a hiking blade, used it a lot and its still kicking to this day.  workhorse!
https://www.knifecenter.com/brand/67/Blackjack-Knives
https://www.dlttrading.com/blackjack-knives   theres better selection at DLT but i think its more expensive
https://www.dlttrading.com/bark-river-knives


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMukv1FNZPo&t=0s
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: jaynick on December 28, 2018, 05:00:18 PM
I never did get a great push cut edge with the sharpmaker. Sold it after a few years. I also had a wicked edge that i never took a liking to.  Took too long and i have too many knives. You need to jot down the edge angle and where you clamped it in the vise to get the best results. Its slow and I also wore out my low grit stones pretty quickly trying to change the bevel on a few premium steel knives. Its expensive using the we to thin out blades. Im all about the belt sander now, but i dont use it on brand new knives i just strop the factory edge til i scratch the blade during use.
More practice with the Spyderco last night. Was able to get sharper than before, but not quite razor sharp. I mean it’s sharp enough for EDC type knife, but I kinda wanted to be able to be able to get them sharper if/when I wanted to. S90/s110v are pretty hard to sharpen good luck. I love those steels but m390 is so similar but a little easier to sharpen.

I think the angle wasn’t quite right from previous to Spyderco angle, so I spent more time in the coarse stones with more pressure. Seemed like I was getting a good edge with the coarse and fine stones. Think I need to get better at finishing with the ultra fine stone and strop. I was sharpening a knife that was rated as easy to sharpen, so will need to get better before moving to the M390, 20CV and S90V blades that I have. I can sharpen them on regular whetstones, but they take quite a bit of time.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on December 28, 2018, 05:17:48 PM
I never did get a great push cut edge with the sharpmaker. Sold it after a few years. I also had a wicked edge that i never took a liking to.  Took too long and i have too many knives. You need to jot down the edge angle and where you clamped it in the vise to get the best results. Its slow and I also wore out my low grit stones pretty quickly trying to change the bevel on a few premium steel knives. Its expensive using the we to thin out blades. Im all about the belt sander now, but i dont use it on brand new knives i just strop the factory edge til i scratch the blade during use.
My friend that makes custom knives uses the Gritomatic. He’s retired and has lots of time. He used to use the Wicked system. Didn’t get to ask him why he changed. He uses mostly high carbon steels. Doubt he uses the super steels. That said, his knives come unreal sharp.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: jaynick on December 28, 2018, 05:53:55 PM
D'oh i also missed the part about it being fixed.
By edc fixed blade i assume around 3 inches.
If you want a high end slicer id say phil wilson is one of the most sought after. Something from him in 10v,s110v, k390 etc can cut manila rope over 1k times and still cut paper. Its all about high heat treat (65 hrc)and optimized geometry. Definitely not meant for any prying or rough stuff like that though. Itll chip or crack.
If you want a tougher general use knife then id say something from scrapyard/swamprat in sr101 is a good bet. No sheath included so youre forced to find one to your liking. Esee 3 in 1095 steel is also very popular at around $100
Cpm3v is a popular premium tough tool steel that even companies like cold steel offer for around $50-65 in the  Pendleton and mini version. 3.5 and 2.5" blades. Those are excellent and closer in price to budget offerings with lesser steels. The 3v pendleton is an excellent choice.


If you want stainless then that limits the options a bit. They also are harder to balance holding a fine edge and being chippy. You need to decide what youre using it for and match the steel and hrc level if youre going stainless.
S30v is a good baseline stainless steel for fixed knives. Its tougher than m390 and the edge remains slightly toothy from the vanadium carbides even when dulled
Thanks but....
" I am looking for a decent "Working mans" EDC fixed blade."   ::)
Nice site though.  :D
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: Rocky on December 30, 2018, 06:59:45 AM
   Guess I should be more specific in what I am looking for. :-\

    A blade of 3"-3.7", a portion of which is serrated (in line or opposite side). I kind of like the SOG Mini Pentagon, but it's "daggerness" makes it unacceptable
Maintains edge well yet easy to sharpen. I like to use tungsten carbide a sit is quick and convenient but have stones into the 1,000's
Hardness of moderate strength as I am not going to be chopping wood or prying doors open with it.
Handle comfortable and secure even when wet
Decent hard sheath that clips to belt and holds tight to body and is easy to draw.

   Is this a w(h)et dream ?  :crazy:

 Appreciate all of your suggestions
:shaka:
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on December 30, 2018, 04:55:21 PM
   Guess I should be more specific in what I am looking for. :-\

    A blade of 3"-3.7", a portion of which is serrated (in line or opposite side). I kind of like the SOG Mini Pentagon, but it's "daggerness" makes it unacceptable
Maintains edge well yet easy to sharpen. I like to use tungsten carbide a sit is quick and convenient but have stones into the 1,000's
Hardness of moderate strength as I am not going to be chopping wood or prying doors open with it.
Handle comfortable and secure even when wet
Decent hard sheath that clips to belt and holds tight to body and is easy to draw.

   Is this a w(h)et dream ?  :crazy:

 Appreciate all of your suggestions
:shaka:

I've been eyeing these for a while, but never pulled the trigger yet

https://www.topsknives.com/knives/tactical/saw-02-special-asssault-weapon

https://www.topsknives.com/knives/tactical/lil-roughneck

https://www.topsknives.com/knives/tactical/delta-unit-3

https://www.topsknives.com/knives/tactical/c-a-t-200
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: jaynick on December 30, 2018, 05:56:03 PM
The pentagon is illegal to carry here, double edged.
Partial serrated knives under 4 inches arent really all that popular because of the compromise of having both on a small edge. They usually end up in the clearance bin after the plain edge models sell out. That might work out in your favor if youre set on a combo edge.

 If it were me id get a plain edge fixed knife in a high carbide toothy steel like s30v that act as micro serrations, or high carbon steel thats easy to sharpen with a little ceramic rod, plus a small folding knife with full serrations for when i need it.
I have one of these and they are so tiny but dont feel undersized when its unfolded in your hand. https://www.knifecenter.com/item/CS20LTS/cold-steel-20lts-tuff-lite-folding-knife-serrated-blade-grivory-handles
cold steels tri ad lock system is rock solid. Its not the smoothest to deploy like a ball bearing flipper, but probably the closest folding action in toughness to a fixed blade.
 
Also those tungsten carbide sharpeners remove a lot of metal. Softer steels can be affected pretty quickly. Look at the picture i attached. The plain edge was raised higher than the serrated portion. The edge gets to be pretty thick at that point.
   Guess I should be more specific in what I am looking for. :-\

    A blade of 3"-3.7", a portion of which is serrated (in line or opposite side). I kind of like the SOG Mini Pentagon, but it's "daggerness" makes it unacceptable
Maintains edge well yet easy to sharpen. I like to use tungsten carbide a sit is quick and convenient but have stones into the 1,000's
Hardness of moderate strength as I am not going to be chopping wood or prying doors open with it.
Handle comfortable and secure even when wet
Decent hard sheath that clips to belt and holds tight to body and is easy to draw.

   Is this a w(h)et dream ?  :crazy:

 Appreciate all of your suggestions
:shaka:
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on December 31, 2018, 12:14:19 PM
   Guess I should be more specific in what I am looking for. :-\

    A blade of 3"-3.7", a portion of which is serrated (in line or opposite side). I kind of like the SOG Mini Pentagon, but it's "daggerness" makes it unacceptable
Maintains edge well yet easy to sharpen. I like to use tungsten carbide a sit is quick and convenient but have stones into the 1,000's
Hardness of moderate strength as I am not going to be chopping wood or prying doors open with it.
Handle comfortable and secure even when wet
Decent hard sheath that clips to belt and holds tight to body and is easy to draw.

   Is this a w(h)et dream ?  :crazy:

 Appreciate all of your suggestions
:shaka:
Recent experience has me looking closer at steels for knives, especially for fixed blades. For folders, I see value in different opening and locking systems, whereas for fixed, primary on the steel, particularly the corrosion resistance. I’ve been testing a couple of D2 steel blades recently and have noticed that they tend to show tarnish and start of corrosion much faster than steels like 154CM (keeping to similar line). I want to try more of VG-10.

Next would be S30V and S35VN, which I have a few folders. My next fixed will likely be a Bradford M390 or similar steel. I really want a Wharncliffe shape fixed as well, but those aren’t as common. Might try a Spyderco in VG-10, but for a use likely very different than yours.

Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on December 31, 2018, 12:16:46 PM
Rocky - How about this one?

Benchmade - Steep Country 15008 Knife, Drop-Point Blade, Plain Edge, Satin Finish,... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00MG1C0U4/ref=cm_sw_r_sms_c_api_i_HtPkCbK8XF30D
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on December 31, 2018, 12:41:02 PM


Now I'm looking at a ZT 0350 as a birthday present for my nephew who is a LEO. More of an EDC for him. I want to get him something good, but I dont want to break my wallet either.

now i'm looking at also the 0770 or the 0350 as a gift to my nephew.  I think either one will do nicely
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on December 31, 2018, 12:45:05 PM
now i'm looking at also the 0770 or the 0350 as a gift to my nephew.  I think either one will do nicely
I have a 770 that I carry quite often. It’s a pretty slim and lighter design compared to the 0350 (and 0562 and 0566). Let me know if you want to compare the three.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on December 31, 2018, 01:56:58 PM
I have a 770 that I carry quite often. It’s a pretty slim and lighter design compared to the 0350 (and 0562 and 0566). Let me know if you want to compare the three.

Thanks.  :shaka:
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: WTF?Shane on December 31, 2018, 05:31:06 PM
I received my Christmas gift, from myself, today.  I've been on and off looking for a non-flipper spanto XM-18 and I found a used one on eBay.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4887/46497500682_ba0a740a4f_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on January 02, 2019, 08:52:15 AM
I ended up ordering the 0350 for my nephew, should be here by next week.  used a gift certificate I got for Christmas, so that helped.
his brother, who has the same birthday but different year, likes to cook so I got him this chef's knife.  https://www.bokerusa.com/kitchen-knives/boker-core/core-professional-chef-s-knife-130840?_dbl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bokerusa.com%2Fkitchen-knives%2Fboker-core%2F%3Fp%3D1
that should be here by next week too.

my family has 6 January birthdays, so after Christmas and January i'm pretty broke. 
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on January 02, 2019, 10:35:20 AM
I received my Christmas gift, from myself, today.  I've been on and off looking for a non-flipper spanto XM-18 and I found a used one on eBay.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4887/46497500682_ba0a740a4f_c.jpg)
Nice! Hinderers are still very much in my list, but not right now.

Why were you looking for the non-flipper version? The spanto design is quite interesting to me. At least while I get better at maintaining the tanto shape.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on January 02, 2019, 10:36:15 AM
I ended up ordering the 0350 for my nephew, should be here by next week.  used a gift certificate I got for Christmas, so that helped.
his brother, who has the same birthday but different year, likes to cook so I got him this chef's knife.  https://www.bokerusa.com/kitchen-knives/boker-core/core-professional-chef-s-knife-130840?_dbl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bokerusa.com%2Fkitchen-knives%2Fboker-core%2F%3Fp%3D1
that should be here by next week too.

my family has 6 January birthdays, so after Christmas and January i'm pretty broke.
Awesome! You have some lucky nephews.

What swayed you to go with the 0350? Just curious.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on January 02, 2019, 10:49:27 AM
Awesome! You have some lucky nephews.

What swayed you to go with the 0350? Just curious.

I don't know what my nephew would prefer, but I like the non-coated blade and the bigger G10 grips.  other than that I was going back and forth which one would be better. he's about 6' and 200 lbs so maybe the slightly larger grips would fit him better. but i'm sure either one he would appreciate.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on January 02, 2019, 11:05:26 AM
I don't know what my nephew would prefer, but I like the non-coated blade and the bigger G10 grips.  other than that I was going back and forth which one would be better. he's about 6' and 200 lbs so maybe the slightly larger grips would fit him better. but i'm sure either one he would appreciate.
Ahh. Gotcha. Knives are a personal think and preferences and how they feel in the hand are important. That’s a very generous and thoughtful gift! I’m sure he’ll like it!

My aversion to recurve is due to my inexperience or lack of desire to maintain them. Similar to serrated edges. I still have a few partial serrated edge knives and while the serrated potion is useful, it’s not easy to sharpen.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: hvybarrels on January 02, 2019, 11:15:09 AM
I don't know what my nephew would prefer, but I like the non-coated blade and the bigger G10 grips.  other than that I was going back and forth which one would be better. he's about 6' and 200 lbs so maybe the slightly larger grips would fit him better. but i'm sure either one he would appreciate.

I just ordered one of those eafengrows you posted earlier. I'm not such a big fan of tip-up carry but will see how it works out.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on January 02, 2019, 11:30:35 AM
I just ordered one of those eafengrows you posted earlier. I'm not such a big fan of tip-up carry but will see how it works out.
Why not a fan or tip up carry? I’ve tried both tip up and down as well as right and left hand sides.

I have gone to many assisted openers and many recommend tip up carry with blade opening toward seam of your pocket to avoid opening in pocket. I’ve never had a problem with knives opening in my pocket.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on January 02, 2019, 11:45:39 AM
I just ordered one of those eafengrows you posted earlier. I'm not such a big fan of tip-up carry but will see how it works out.

let us know how it goes   :shaka:
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on January 03, 2019, 08:23:46 AM
Have to give props to Blade HQ's CS.  I received one of their carrying cases with the stitching forming the slots for the individual knives missing.  I emailed their CS to arrange for return for inspection and I received a reply within hours from a CS manager with their apologies and a full refund.  I ended up ordering two more cases since I needed the case anyways and to meet the $99 min for free shipping  :oops:

Anyways, I've noticed that their pricing is usually very good and often the same or cheaper than on Amazon.  In that case, I would usually go with the known online vendor to reduce risk of counterfeits.  I have noticed that the pricing on many brands do vary, so have to keep an eye out on that. 

With the carrying cases, I picked up another Boker flipper.

https://www.bladehq.com/item--Boker-Plus-JB-Stout-Lateralus--71453

This one isn't as smooth as the Caracal, but I like how this blade feels in the hand, where you can get a nice forward grip.  While I'm happy with the two Bokers I have, I think that's it for me for a while.  I have these two D2 blades to test along with the few ZTs.  I've been using the Caracal quite a bit since I got it.  It seems to be holding the edge well, but have mostly just been cutting up cardboard and opening boxes.  I did notice that the D2 seems to be quite prone to corrosion and the oils from your hand will lead to discoloration on the blade if left for a while.  So need to be more careful on occasionally wiping down with oil here and there.  I don't mind, but think I will stick with more corrosion resistant steels like M390, S35VN, etc. 
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: WTF?Shane on January 03, 2019, 11:35:07 AM
Why were you looking for the non-flipper version? The spanto design is quite interesting to me. At least while I get better at maintaining the tanto shape.

I dont like the jimping on the handle of the ZT0560, when using the flipper tab. Thought it would be the same for the XM-18.

Then after picking up the Eklipse, the detent feels weak and doesn’t allow the blade to pop out. I preferred using the thumb studs.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on January 03, 2019, 12:43:51 PM
I dont like the jimping on the handle of the ZT0560, when using the flipper tab. Thought it would be the same for the XM-18.

Then after picking up the Eklipse, the detent feels weak and doesn’t allow the blade to pop out. I preferred using the thumb studs.
Cool.  Interesting to hear about the difference preferences folks have with gear. 

Are you referring to the jimping on the blade or the frame/handle?  Seems like the XM-18 has similar jimping as the ZT 0560. 

I had gotten used to knives with thumb studs like the Benchmade Griptilian or similar with the axis lock.  They are quick to deploy with a flick to the wrist where you rotate the handle around the pivot pin, or using the "J open" method where you make a J in the air with the pivot pin end of the handle.  Some models can take some adjustment to get just right, but all of the Benchmades with axis lock that I have had were able to do so.  I found through combatives training that opening via the thumbstud wasn't as dependable, at least for me.  I'd miss the thumbstud or even sweaty hands made it more difficult to open.  The thumbstud on the Hinderers look quite smooth. 

I haven't found a good training knife with the flipper, but I like the flipper in that it seems more dependable opening (at least for me) and I also like that the flipper ends up being a hand/finger guard when open. 

I still have Benchmades with thumbstud models in the carry rotation, including assisted openers.  But I've been mostly sticking with the flipper openers (ZT and Boker).  Like many things, I probably should stick to one of the other if primarily for defensive use. 
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: hvybarrels on January 03, 2019, 04:00:51 PM
Why not a fan or tip up carry? I’ve tried both tip up and down as well as right and left hand sides.

I have gone to many assisted openers and many recommend tip up carry with blade opening toward seam of your pocket to avoid opening in pocket. I’ve never had a problem with knives opening in my pocket.

I never meant Murphy but am well acquainted with his law.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on January 03, 2019, 04:18:37 PM
For a defensive knife I prefer a flipper with assisted opening, although a non assisted with a solid detent will do about the same. But I prefer the assisted opening. That way I know the blade will deploy and lock up every single time even if my hand or body isn't in perfect position.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on January 03, 2019, 05:20:46 PM
I never meant Murphy but am well acquainted with his law.
Not sure how that relates to preference against tip up carry. Are you afraid of them opening in your pocket?

It was my understanding that tip up carry was generally more common, but also understand that tip up vs tip down was largely based on preferred grip and opening method. But I guess whatever tokes your taco.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on January 03, 2019, 05:24:57 PM
For a defensive knife I prefer a flipper with assisted opening, although a non assisted with a solid detent will do about the same. But I prefer the assisted opening. That way I know the blade will deploy and lock up every single time even if my hand or body isn't in perfect position.
I have two assisted flipper and two non-assisted flippers from ZT and I agree. With the super smooth action of the ZTs, a “purposeful” attempt to open will result in a full and solid opening. But the assisted ones aren’t such that they are “touchy”. Even the assisted Benchmades that I have and have tried aren’t that touchy to the point where I’d feel the need to use the safety.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on January 03, 2019, 05:30:08 PM
My latest Boker flipper and likely the last folder for a while. Will likely get a fixed blade soon, but after that the budget is about used up.  :(

This is the Boker Plus JB Stout Lateralus Flipper. It’s not nearly as smooth as the Boker Caracal that I have nor the ZTs, but maybe it will get smoother as it gets more use. It’sa frame lock as opposed to the liner lock of the Caracal. I noticed that adjusting the pivot pin just a little causes the blade tip to move quite a bit laterally and will quickly affect the opening, and closing. Didn’t notice that with the ZT frame locks.

Overall happy with the Boker Plus line for the money.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: hvybarrels on January 04, 2019, 12:28:21 AM
Not sure how that relates to preference against tip up carry. Are you afraid of them opening in your pocket?

It was my understanding that tip up carry was generally more common, but also understand that tip up vs tip down was largely based on preferred grip and opening method. But I guess whatever tokes your taco.

I actually had one or two open in my pocket. Don't remember the exact circumstances but I do remember it happening and that it was NOT fun. That was several years ago and the technology has probably advanced a lot, plus I'm not doing the things I used to do for work (doctors orders) so I'll give it a try again. Besides the eafengrow is inexpensive enough to take a risk on and looks like it will sit well in between the Abuse Knife and Gentleman Knife categories for those "normal" use days.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on January 04, 2019, 08:13:18 AM
ok, last knives for a while, I promise.   ;)
started to get into the Kershaw line.  affordable, functional, I'm really liking the Kershaw brand.
top one is the Grid made in China $29 speed safe assisted opening, bottom one is the Bareknuckle made in USA $69 manual flipper.  prices are probably less than retail.
almost equal dimensions, the China one's grip is maybe 1/8 inch longer
China one is 8cr steel, USA one is Sandvik14 steel
Chinese one is a framelock, USA is a subframe lock which keeps the knife lighter
one problem with the USA one is the detent is super strong and has a hot spot near the pivot. so if I grip the subframe lock near the pivot, it is impossible to open.  was worse when I first got it.  I had to break it in, and work the sub frame lock many times with a screwdriver to loosen it up.  now its much better but still not 100% dependable, maybe 95-98% dependable but usually opens no problem as long as I keep my fingers off the sub frame lock near the pivot, but the opening is very smooth.  the Chinese one is 100% reliable
for the money, that Grid is a bargain, the only drawback is the 8cr steel if that matters to you.  I would recommend this knife if you want a cheaper assisted opener, it works great
I cannot recommend the Bareknuckle because it took so much work to get it to work


(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7882/46543392162_8923d9be6a_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on January 04, 2019, 08:49:50 AM
I actually had one or two open in my pocket. Don't remember the exact circumstances but I do remember it happening and that it was NOT fun. That was several years ago and the technology has probably advanced a lot, plus I'm not doing the things I used to do for work (doctors orders) so I'll give it a try again. Besides the eafengrow is inexpensive enough to take a risk on and looks like it will sit well in between the Abuse Knife and Gentleman Knife categories for those "normal" use days.
I see.  Yeah, having a knife open in your pocket inadvertently would NOT be pleasant.  However, it was my understanding that tip down or tip up carry have the same risk for that and many recommend a carry method where the blade opening faces toward a pocket seam.  So for right side carry, tip up carry with the knife on the rear seam of your front pocket and tip down carry with the knife on the side/front seam of your back pocket. 

You bring up a good point on activity level.  I used to primarily carry a Benchmade non assisted folder with the axis lock system daily.  I also had a trainer that I used for a combatives class.  I have never had the trainer open in the 1 hour long class.  I've also had the "real" blade on the waistband of my gym shorts when sparring.  I had meant to take them off before sparring, but that's how I typically carry when I am wearing gym shorts or other shorts without pockets.  Anyways, after a few rounds, I felt the knife in my waist band and I took it out to put it aside and my sparring partner saw it and joked that knives weren't allowed.   ;D  I was surprised that the blade stayed pretty secure through the sparring. 

I actually really like the method of carry where the knife is in your front waist band.  If at an angle, it's a pretty quick draw and I don't notice it when sitting.  However, I felt that would look funny for carry in street or business clothes. 

Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: WTF?Shane on January 04, 2019, 06:31:15 PM
I cut myself a few times trying to grab the Kershaw Leek from my pocket. It is tip down and assisted flipper. The flipper tab points outward, when carried in right pocket, and would get pressed through my pants pocket.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on January 04, 2019, 06:40:37 PM
I cut myself a few times trying to grab the Kershaw Leek from my pocket. It is tip down and assisted flipper. The flipper tab points outward, when carried in right pocket, and would get pressed through my pants pocket.
Damn, that sucks.

I have a similar Kershaw. Scallion I think. It only allows for tip down and doesn’t have holes for other clip positions. The flipper is pretty touchy on that one and it takes less force than my other assisted opening flippers. I used to carry it with work attire, but usually in my back right pocket, so it would open toward the pocket seam/edge. I’ve never had it open on me in my pocket. It does have a sliding safety bar at the tip which prevents opening. Not sure if I used to carry with it locked or open tho.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on January 04, 2019, 06:46:46 PM
ok, last knives for a while, I promise.   ;)
started to get into the Kershaw line.  affordable, functional, I'm really liking the Kershaw brand.
top one is the Grid made in China $29 speed safe assisted opening, bottom one is the Bareknuckle made in USA $69 manual flipper.  prices are probably less than retail.
almost equal dimensions, the China one's grip is maybe 1/8 inch longer
China one is 8cr steel, USA one is Sandvik14 steel
Chinese one is a framelock, USA is a subframe lock which keeps the knife lighter
one problem with the USA one is the detent is super strong and has a hot spot near the pivot. so if I grip the subframe lock near the pivot, it is impossible to open.  was worse when I first got it.  I had to break it in, and work the sub frame lock many times with a screwdriver to loosen it up.  now its much better but still not 100% dependable, maybe 95-98% dependable but usually opens no problem as long as I keep my fingers off the sub frame lock near the pivot, but the opening is very smooth.  the Chinese one is 100% reliable
for the money, that Grid is a bargain, the only drawback is the 8cr steel if that matters to you.  I would recommend this knife if you want a cheaper assisted opener, it works great
I cannot recommend the Bareknuckle because it took so much work to get it to work

Nah. Go ahead and keep buying.  ;D

Good information that we’re all sharing. We all have our own preferences. What we like, don’t like, what we hate, etc. Same useful info for guns and gear. We can have fun trying different stuff and folks maybe can take advantage of that or avoid the stuff we experienced.

Sucks that the more expensive Bareknuckle had  problems. Like another poster mentioned, I too am seeing much more variation in the budget level knives. I’ve been lucky to get mostly good, or at least decent budget stuff from Kershaw and CRKT. That said, I’ve come to appreciate the quality you get when spending a little more. The lesser expensive knives will surely still work and serve their purpose tho.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on January 05, 2019, 12:04:11 PM
Have been using the Boker Plus JB Stout Lateralus Flipperquite a bit the past week. It came nice and sharp and seems to be holding an edge quite well. However, I noticed that the opening wasn’t  nearly as smooth and fast as my Boker with liner lock and ZTs that are frame locks. I noticed that the speed of opening depended on how I gripped the knife. Apply enough pressure to the G-10 scale, which is opposite the frame lock side, and I could prevent the knife from opening. Apply slight pressure and the blade would open, but slow and maybe not all the way to lock. When compared with the ZTs, I noticed that the Boker didn’t have a steel or other metal liner inside the scale. That allows the scale to flex quite a bit and apply pressure to the blade. The ZTs all have liners on the scale side and even if I apply pressure on the scale side, it doesn’t seem to affect the opening. If I apply pressure to the frame lock bar, it can prevent the blade from opening, but my natural grip doesn’t apply pressure there, whereas I apply some pressure on the liner with my thumb.

Not a big deal, but I’d likely look for that in future knives. I tested some liner lock flipper knives that I have (bother Boker and ZT) and they don’t seem to be affected like the Boker Lateralus.

I’ll still be using the Boker to keep testing the D2 steel, but won’t be an EDC for me.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on January 07, 2019, 08:07:38 AM
   Guess I should be more specific in what I am looking for. :-\

    A blade of 3"-3.7", a portion of which is serrated (in line or opposite side). I kind of like the SOG Mini Pentagon, but it's "daggerness" makes it unacceptable
Maintains edge well yet easy to sharpen. I like to use tungsten carbide a sit is quick and convenient but have stones into the 1,000's
Hardness of moderate strength as I am not going to be chopping wood or prying doors open with it.
Handle comfortable and secure even when wet
Decent hard sheath that clips to belt and holds tight to body and is easy to draw.

   Is this a w(h)et dream ?  :crazy:

 Appreciate all of your suggestions
:shaka:

simple knife, inexpensive.  I don't own one but looks pretty good, I have a couple sheath systems like this and works well if you want to conceal and draw horizontal or vertical.

https://www.knifecenter.com/item/ON8690/ontario-rat-3-utility-knife-od-green-plain-blade-green-linen-micarta-handles-od-green-sheath
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on January 07, 2019, 08:21:28 AM
simple knife, inexpensive.  I don't own one but looks pretty good, I have a couple sheath systems like this and works well if you want to conceal and draw horizontal or vertical.

https://www.knifecenter.com/item/ON8690/ontario-rat-3-utility-knife-od-green-plain-blade-green-linen-micarta-handles-od-green-sheath
That seems to meet most (of not all) of Rocky's criteria.  I have a couple of ESEE 4s with one that I used to use and abuse.  ESEE and Ontario are basically the same and it is my understanding that ESEE branched out on their own from Ontario.  One difference is ESEE's lifetime warranty, but both have a reputation for being tough and durable.  I've been looking for a smaller fixed blade and the ESEE Izula is one I'm looking at. 

The one thing about those knives is that the 1095 steel will need a little bit more care for corrosion than other steels.  The ESEE and RAT do come with the most of the blade coated, but the primary edge is exposed.  Wasn't that big of a deal when I lived in WA, but Hawaii is terrible for that, especially out where Rocky lives. 
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on January 07, 2019, 08:51:35 AM
Those all were NIB condition. A few of them have seen use, but mostly opening and cutting up boxes. You can tell use if you handle them, but tough to see in a pic.

Been looking harder into blade materials lately. I’ve mostly been referring to this as a guide:

https://knifeinformer.com/discovering-the-best-knife-steel/

I don’t have a favorite right now. I don’t really use my knives that much where I can probably tell that much of a difference. I like the promise of ability to hold and edge of the newer super steels, but I haven’t really used them much to tell.

good info on the different types of steel

my next step is to get better steel.  all my blades fall in the high end to lower-mid categories.
theres at least one knife I want to get in M390, and i'll probably look into other better steels too
good to look at different properties and choose what is best for your purposes
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on January 07, 2019, 08:59:08 AM
I have a couple newer knives in this steel:  https://www.materials.sandvik/en-us/products/strip-steel/strip-products/knife-steel/sandvik-knife-steels/sandvik-14c28n/

seems to get pretty good reviews for all around blade steel.  not sure how it compares to other steels.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on January 07, 2019, 09:11:06 AM
good info on the different types of steel

my next step is to get better steel.  all my blades fall in the high end to lower-mid categories.
theres at least one knife I want to get in M390, and i'll probably look into other better steels too
good to look at different properties and choose what is best for your purposes

Exactly.  Lately, sharpening (ease or difficulty with) and corrosion resistance have been what I've been looking at more and more.  If I had to choose preference, I think I'd go with the S30V and S35VN for combination of properties that are my current preference and typical cost range for the knives.  Next are VG-10 and 154CM for "mid-range" type knives and M390, CPM-20CV, and (can't think of it right now), but the latter group tend to be more pricey blades. 

I have a couple newer knives in this steel:  https://www.materials.sandvik/en-us/products/strip-steel/strip-products/knife-steel/sandvik-knife-steels/sandvik-14c28n/

seems to get pretty good reviews for all around blade steel.  not sure how it compares to other steels.
I have been looking at some blades with the 14c28n.  Reviews that I've read seem to be that it's pretty good and an upgrade from the 8Cr13MoV.  I have a couple of 8Cr13MoV knives and they have held up pretty well. 
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on January 08, 2019, 11:40:16 AM
I ended up ordering the 0350 for my nephew, should be here by next week. 


my order got delayed and will not be here in time for my nephew's birthday.  I ordered through amazon, originally said would be here in plenty of time, now its delayed for a few more weeks.
so, I talked myself into ordering another one from knife center, who I would have ordered it from in the first place but they were sold out at the time, but now they have back in stock.  good thing I ordered when I did bc I got their last one and it shipped the same day so it should be here just in time for his birthday.
my plan is to give him that one, and keep for myself the one that comes later.  I figured that I don't really have a premium folder, and lately I've been wanting a ZT and I really like the 0350 model with the stonewashed blade.
it was easy to talk myself into it.   :geekdanc:
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on January 08, 2019, 12:07:23 PM
my order got delayed and will not be here in time for my nephew's birthday.  I ordered through amazon, originally said would be here in plenty of time, now its delayed for a few more weeks.
so, I talked myself into ordering another one from knife center, who I would have ordered it from in the first place but they were sold out at the time, but now they have back in stock.  good thing I ordered when I did bc I got their last one and it shipped the same day so it should be here just in time for his birthday.
my plan is to give him that one, and keep for myself the one that comes later.  I figured that I don't really have a premium folder, and lately I've been wanting a ZT and I really like the 0350 model with the stonewashed blade.
it was easy to talk myself into it.   :geekdanc:
Good to hear that you were able to get one in time.  I haven't ordered from Knifecenter, but I've browsed there.  I've ordered a bunch of stuff from Blade HQ and they shipping very quickly and their CS has been great. 

And cool that you will have the same blade as you got your nephew.  I'm sure you'll like the ZT.  Hopefully that will inspire you to get more of them.  ;D
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on January 10, 2019, 01:13:56 PM
Have been watching quite a bit of YouTube videos on knife sharpening and knife reviews lately.  Like many things online, it takes a while to figure out who is putting out good information and who are blowing smoke.  And then there's different levels of good information.  Many reviews are of the "unboxing" variety and they haven't used the sharpener or knife.  While helpful, I look for the videos that show actual use.  Similar with online forums on knives. 

For YouTube videos, I've been tending to stick to reviews by places like KnifeCenter and BladeHQ.  There was some others that I watch here and there, but I found that a couple of the knife reviewers are pretty weird and irritating.  Like the Shabazz guy and the Bird(something).  That lady on the bird channel ruins otherwise useful information contained in the video. 

For online forums, the knife folks seem to fixate on some minor things.  One big one that I don't understand is ability to both open, and CLOSE a folding knife quickly and with one hand.  I mean I get wanting to open the knife quickly, but being able to close the knife quickly isn't important to me.  Then I started to figure out that many of them see their knives as almost a fidget-spinner.  An example of one knife that I am looking closely at is the Spyderco Amalgam.  It's a flipper with a compression lock.  Seems like most agree that it's a solid knife, the flipper to open is generally good, etc.  Then there's a ton of negative review of the compression lock.  Not because it is weak or fails, but combined with the flipper tab, the tab makes it more difficult to quickly close the knife and some even complain it "ruins the rhythm of being able to open and close with one hand".   ???  Apparently that is a huge deal for many. . .
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on January 10, 2019, 03:04:30 PM
I've seen several of the bird channel and the nick Shabazz too. I can see your point about the fidget spinner thing. They dont like assisted openers. I like assisted openers, opens and locks up every time. Manual openers are good too if they lock up every time, but some of those may take a little extra effort. Nothing wrong with it, just how it is. I care more about effortless opening vs effortless closing too.

Another channel I subscribe to is preparedmind101. He's more of a fixed blade guy, sponsored by bark river knives so he's partial to them. He tests his knives somewhat. He also has a certain sense of humor.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on January 11, 2019, 09:07:00 AM
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7871/45788243305_c696e62186_b.jpg)


when ordering the chef's knife for my nephew, I needed $10 more for free shipping and this Kershaw Dividend was on sale for $19.99 about half off at the time, so why not
made in USA, 3" 420HC steel blade, speed safe opening, liner lock.  for $19.99 it's a bargain.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: tillamook on January 11, 2019, 09:32:59 AM
I bought a Talibong for a family friend for Christmas.  Traditional Fillipino sword from 1500-1800.  Used as a Machete, chopping wood, dressing game and for self defense of course.  It was so nice I'll be getting one myself.  ( this is real steel, 5160/D2 high carbon steel tempered to HRC 58-60)

(https://i.imgur.com/JD2plHP.jpg?1)
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on January 11, 2019, 01:26:55 PM
I bought a Talibong for a family friend for Christmas.  Traditional Fillipino sword from 1500-1800.  Used as a Machete, chopping wood, dressing game and for self defense of course.  It was so nice I'll be getting one myself.  ( this is real steel, 5160/D2 high carbon steel tempered to HRC 58-60)

(https://i.imgur.com/JD2plHP.jpg?1)

nice, never seen that before   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on January 11, 2019, 02:52:24 PM


when ordering the chef's knife for my nephew, I needed $10 more for free shipping and this Kershaw Dividend was on sale for $19.99 about half off at the time, so why not
made in USA, 3" 420HC steel blade, speed safe opening, liner lock.  for $19.99 it's a bargain.   :thumbsup:
Nice! They get my like that all the time. Just need to add $X.Xx for free shipping. End up spending more than the shipping savings.  ;D

I have a couple Benchmades with 420HC. Good stuff.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on January 11, 2019, 02:53:27 PM
I bought a Talibong for a family friend for Christmas.  Traditional Fillipino sword from 1500-1800.  Used as a Machete, chopping wood, dressing game and for self defense of course.  It was so nice I'll be getting one myself.  ( this is real steel, 5160/D2 high carbon steel tempered to HRC 58-60)

:thumbsup:

Nice EDC. Haha. Looks like would be great for yard work.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on January 14, 2019, 07:55:21 AM
got the ZT 0350 over the weekend
it is really nice!   :thumbsup:
fit and finish is great, steel liners are thick, G10 grips are very grippy with the checkering which I really like, speed safe opening is what i'm used to fast and locks up solidly, better steel than what i'm used to but didn't really test it at all since its going to my nephew
what I really like and what struck me first about this knife is the G10 grips and how sticky it is in the hand and its big enough to fill my hand, fits great
I tested how the blade would work in my sharpener, and the recurve isn't too bad of an angle.  seems like I can maintain contact with my stones. 
but I mailed it out the next day for my nephew bc he doesn't live here
just have to wait for mine to arrive

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4882/46662154352_f37cf26d69_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on January 22, 2019, 08:06:25 AM
Ordered a few more blades to test different steels/brands as well as a fixed blade that I've been wanting for a while.  I've actually been wanting a few different fixed blades, but the rest will have to wait.  Since I have the Wicked Edge system coming in, I figured I would round out the collection with blades in steels that I didn't have or wanted a cheaper one to test (and not be testing on a more expensive blade).  So I ordered a knife in M390, VG-10 and S30V.  I already have a few with S35VN, and one with 20CV and 204p, so have plenty to be testing.  I also got a Henckels set of kitchen knives on Amazon as well.  Been on a bit of a buying spree recently, but I THINK this will be it for a while. . .  :oops:  ;D

I think the S30V and S35VN are my favorites so far, but I wanted more time with the harder steels, like M390, 20CV, 240p, etc.  Out of the knives that I do have, I think D2 is out as there are other steels in the price range with equal or better edge retention and ease of sharpening, but much better corrosion resistance.  The three D2 blades that I have so far, they work well, but are a PITA to sharpen and have signs of corrosion without careful wipedown with some oil after use. 
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on January 22, 2019, 12:42:10 PM
nice, you're getting the wicked edge.  is that the top end wicked edge system?  I know all are pretty pricey.

after using my D2 blade more over the past couple weekends for yard work I've learned that they are very difficult to get super sharp.  I can get them working sharp, but not shaving sharp or as sharp as my other blades.  and cutting a lot of wood and plants and trees with the D2, it got stained pretty bad and couldn't just wipe off, I had to use a steel polish to get the stains off.  so maybe I wont be getting too much of the D2 in the future.  since I don't do that much hard use of my smaller blades, i'll look to get better corrosion resistance and better ease of sharpening.

I also been buying some knives and other knife related gear like a Lansky rod sharpener which is like the Spyderco sharpener, a guided sharpener, and a leather strop.  I really like the rod sharpener, easy to use and works pretty fast
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on January 22, 2019, 12:42:54 PM
Ordered a few more blades to test different steels/brands as well as a fixed blade that I've been wanting for a while.  I've actually been wanting a few different fixed blades, but the rest will have to wait.  Since I have the Wicked Edge system coming in, I figured I would round out the collection with blades in steels that I didn't have or wanted a cheaper one to test (and not be testing on a more expensive blade).  So I ordered a knife in M390, VG-10 and S30V.  I already have a few with S35VN, and one with 20CV and 204p, so have plenty to be testing.  I also got a Henckels set of kitchen knives on Amazon as well.  Been on a bit of a buying spree recently, but I THINK this will be it for a while. . .  :oops:  ;D

I think the S30V and S35VN are my favorites so far, but I wanted more time with the harder steels, like M390, 20CV, 240p, etc.  Out of the knives that I do have, I think D2 is out as there are other steels in the price range with equal or better edge retention and ease of sharpening, but much better corrosion resistance.  The three D2 blades that I have so far, they work well, but are a PITA to sharpen and have signs of corrosion without careful wipedown with some oil after use.

what knives did you get?  would love to see some pics.   :shaka:
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on January 22, 2019, 01:16:23 PM
nice, you're getting the wicked edge.  is that the top end wicked edge system?  I know all are pretty pricey.

after using my D2 blade more over the past couple weekends for yard work I've learned that they are very difficult to get super sharp.  I can get them working sharp, but not shaving sharp or as sharp as my other blades.  and cutting a lot of wood and plants and trees with the D2, it got stained pretty bad and couldn't just wipe off, I had to use a steel polish to get the stains off.  so maybe I wont be getting too much of the D2 in the future.  since I don't do that much hard use of my smaller blades, i'll look to get better corrosion resistance and better ease of sharpening.

I also been buying some knives and other knife related gear like a Lansky rod sharpener which is like the Spyderco sharpener, a guided sharpener, and a leather strop.  I really like the rod sharpener, easy to use and works pretty fast
I ordered the WE-130, so little pricey. . .  :shake: 

I hear ya on the D2.  I have tried sharpening a Benchmade knife with the D2 with the Spyderco and stones and I have had the same experience.  I can get them working sharp, which to me is cutting up boxes and the basic fingernail test, but yeah, not sharp enough to shave like some other steels.  Since S30V and S35VN offer better edge retention and corrosion resistance at about the same or better ease of sharpening (will see if that changes as I get better with my own technique on the harder steels), I don't see D2 as offering much that I'd want over other steels.  That's why I'm trying VG-10, which seems to be about the same price range as D2. 

And I don't care that much if blades that I used get stained or have a patina, but I do wonder if how easy D2 gets that way, how they will be if say I get it wet and forget to dry it out.  Will it result in rust in say about a week.  Once I test the Benchmade with D2 with sharpening, I might have to test it with corrosion resistance.  But again, the higher maintenance of the D2 is not something I really want to have to think about. 

I have a Lansky rod sharpener that I got a long time ago.  I used to use it mostly for kitchen knives, but now I mostly use stones for kitchen knives. 

what knives did you get?  would love to see some pics.   :shaka:
 

Will post pics when they come in. 

Preview:
Kershaw M390
Kizer VG-10
Spyderco S30V
Benchmade Fixed S30V

 :crazy:  :shake:
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on January 22, 2019, 01:37:37 PM
Will post pics when they come in. 

Preview:
Kershaw M390
Kizer VG-10
Spyderco S30V
Benchmade Fixed S30V

 :crazy:  :shake:

Kershaw Link?
if so, I really like mine.  but mine is 420HC steel.  but I like how the knife is designed, great for EDC.  I was even thinking of picking up the M390 steel too
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on January 22, 2019, 02:33:23 PM
Kershaw Link?
if so, I really like mine.  but mine is 420HC steel.  but I like how the knife is designed, great for EDC.  I was even thinking of picking up the M390 steel too
Yeah, that's the one!  I was going to try a We knife in M390, both for the steel and to try the We brand.  But at twice the price, decided to go with the Kershaw, esp since this one will be purposely beaten up to test edge retention and then sharpening.   ;D
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on January 23, 2019, 12:45:58 PM
just when you thought you have enough blades...………….


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1DDv6HlQxM&t=188s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KePkiBKwRW8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9jYzYE2JOU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMk1VO8Nf48
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYTbvmNDqH4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5VKgyU0rbE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P348Dt5eW9o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_m5-HBUnlZM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEtQBwfR0O0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9a2v_BJbRI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBmZlO4ZIbo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnj2N1mc-2Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1pP90Q4pMw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPRvGdi5Iis
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on January 30, 2019, 07:08:12 PM
Test knives have arrived!

Top to bottom:
Spyderco Amalgam
Kershaw Link
Kizer Barbosa
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on January 30, 2019, 08:00:47 PM
Spyderco Amalgam (S30V)

This is my first Spyderco blade.  It's on the larger side, but not heavy of bulky since both the blade and handle are pretty thin.  This is also my first with the compression lock, which my first impression is that I don't like it.  It seems solid but maybe just awkward as most of my other blades are liner of frame lock.  The flipper opening is ok smooth and I hope that it will smooth out with some wearing in.  Definitely not as smooth as the ZTs that I have.  The blade was pretty sharp out of the box.  I could see this knife becoming part of my EDC rotation.  I actually would like to find a fixed blade that is about the same length, but with a slightly thicker blade.

Kerwhaw Link (M390)

This is an assisted flipper opening with a pretty strong assist.  It's actually on the heavier side compared to the rest of the folders that I have.  The grip is pretty smooth and I actually would like it to have a little more texture.  This one wasn't as sharp as my ZT M390 out of the box, but sharp enough.  This will be one of the first to be tested for edge retention and then sharpening.  I have a lot of cardboard boxes that need to be cut up this weekend.

Kizer Barbosa (VG-10)

My first Kizer knife.  I've been sticking to mostly US made knives, but I've also been wanting to try one of these Chinese produced brands that have gotten good reviews (Civivi, We, and others).  This knife is on the smaller side and smaller than I envisioned.  I probably should have paid more attention to the specs, but I was mostly interested in this one for the VG-10 steel to test.  The flipper opening isn't as smooth and snappy to open as I would like.  Overall it seems pretty well made and doesn't seem "cheap".  The spine on this one is actually pretty thick, but has a nice secondary bevel to the cutting edge.  This one was ok sharp out of the box, but wasn't super sharp compared to other brands that I have.  This one is probably a little small for EDC, but would be a good utility sized knife. 
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on February 01, 2019, 01:37:24 PM
Spyderco Amalgam (S30V)

This is my first Spyderco blade.  It's on the larger side, but not heavy of bulky since both the blade and handle are pretty thin.  This is also my first with the compression lock, which my first impression is that I don't like it.  It seems solid but maybe just awkward as most of my other blades are liner of frame lock.  The flipper opening is ok smooth and I hope that it will smooth out with some wearing in.  Definitely not as smooth as the ZTs that I have.  The blade was pretty sharp out of the box.  I could see this knife becoming part of my EDC rotation.  I actually would like to find a fixed blade that is about the same length, but with a slightly thicker blade.

Kerwhaw Link (M390)

This is an assisted flipper opening with a pretty strong assist.  It's actually on the heavier side compared to the rest of the folders that I have.  The grip is pretty smooth and I actually would like it to have a little more texture.  This one wasn't as sharp as my ZT M390 out of the box, but sharp enough.  This will be one of the first to be tested for edge retention and then sharpening.  I have a lot of cardboard boxes that need to be cut up this weekend.

Kizer Barbosa (VG-10)

My first Kizer knife.  I've been sticking to mostly US made knives, but I've also been wanting to try one of these Chinese produced brands that have gotten good reviews (Civivi, We, and others).  This knife is on the smaller side and smaller than I envisioned.  I probably should have paid more attention to the specs, but I was mostly interested in this one for the VG-10 steel to test.  The flipper opening isn't as smooth and snappy to open as I would like.  Overall it seems pretty well made and doesn't seem "cheap".  The spine on this one is actually pretty thick, but has a nice secondary bevel to the cutting edge.  This one was ok sharp out of the box, but wasn't super sharp compared to other brands that I have.  This one is probably a little small for EDC, but would be a good utility sized knife.

let me know how all those work out
i'm interested in the M390 especially how it is to sharpen

I also ordered my first Kizer.  its the Intrepid with S35vn.  also my first order from BladeHQ, it shipped the same day.  should have it by early next week.  heard really good things about Kizer, so hope it is good.

now I'm thinking about that Ken Onion Work sharp belt sharpening system.  now i'm doing more yard work so I want to get my machete and other tools nice and sharp.  would be nice to try on my knives too
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on February 02, 2019, 11:49:31 AM
let me know how all those work out
i'm interested in the M390 especially how it is to sharpen

I also ordered my first Kizer.  its the Intrepid with S35vn.  also my first order from BladeHQ, it shipped the same day.  should have it by early next week.  heard really good things about Kizer, so hope it is good.

now I'm thinking about that Ken Onion Work sharp belt sharpening system.  now i'm doing more yard work so I want to get my machete and other tools nice and sharp.  would be nice to try on my knives too
Will do. Used the Kershaw M390 to break down and cut up a bunch of boxes today. Probably one of the usual tasks for my folding knives. I did cut them up into smaller pieces than I normally would to test the edge retention. It went though even the thicker cardboard with ease. I normally just use the knife tip to score the sections. This time, I also used the main belly of the knife to both slice and push cut and the knife went right through. After I was done, I cleaned off some of the adhesive and tested the edge. Still felt pretty sharp and was still able to shave hair, but not as close as some of my super sharp knives.

So overall good first test on edge retention. Will use it some more before moving onto sharpening.

I was looking at the Kizer Intrepid as well. The G-10 version i was looking at had a VG-10 blade. Now I wish I went with that one as the one that I got is much smaller than I would normally buy. But ok for a test blade.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on February 05, 2019, 07:40:22 AM
got the Kizer Intrepid yesterday
came in a very nice box, with a cleaning cloth and a very nice knife storage pouch.  those are a nice touch.
3.6" S35VN steel .16" thick, 4.6" titanium handles with rounded smooth edges, manual ceramic bearing with flipper opening, frame lock, tip up right hand carry only
at first opening was smooth but not great, wiped it down and just shot some oil in the pivot and its much better.  opening is very smooth.  although I still prefer the assisted opening, this manual is still very good.  detent could be a little stronger but its still very good.
quality , fit and finish is very good.  maybe on par with my only ZT.  I only have 1 of each brand so that's not really a fair comparison, and both are really good quality.
overall I am really pleased with this Kizer blade. 


(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7846/33120758368_b1f8be3286_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: Heavies on February 05, 2019, 07:46:02 AM
got the Kizer Intrepid yesterday
came in a very nice box, with a cleaning cloth and a very nice knife storage pouch.  those are a nice touch.
3.6" S35VN steel .16" thick, 4.6" titanium handles with rounded smooth edges, manual ceramic bearing with flipper opening, frame lock, tip up right hand carry only
at first opening was smooth but not great, wiped it down and just shot some oil in the pivot and its much better.  opening is very smooth.  although I still prefer the assisted opening, this manual is still very good.  detent could be a little stronger but its still very good.
quality , fit and finish is very good.  maybe on par with my only ZT.  I only have 1 of each brand so that's not really a fair comparison, and both are really good quality.
overall I am really pleased with this Kizer blade. 


(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7846/33120758368_b1f8be3286_b.jpg)

NICE!
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on February 05, 2019, 12:25:07 PM
Made in USA, s30v steel, for $99

https://youtu.be/EMnWUzX4fTY
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on February 05, 2019, 12:41:57 PM
got the Kizer Intrepid yesterday
came in a very nice box, with a cleaning cloth and a very nice knife storage pouch.  those are a nice touch.
3.6" S35VN steel .16" thick, 4.6" titanium handles with rounded smooth edges, manual ceramic bearing with flipper opening, frame lock, tip up right hand carry only
at first opening was smooth but not great, wiped it down and just shot some oil in the pivot and its much better.  opening is very smooth.  although I still prefer the assisted opening, this manual is still very good.  detent could be a little stronger but its still very good.
quality , fit and finish is very good.  maybe on par with my only ZT.  I only have 1 of each brand so that's not really a fair comparison, and both are really good quality.
overall I am really pleased with this Kizer blade. 


Awesome!   :thumbsup:

My Kizer came with the cleaning cloth, but not a storage pouch.  I think mine was a lower level line that yours though.  I don't need the storage pouch for the knife, but I am sure I could other uses for it. 

I have been looking at the Kizer Takefu.  It's discontinued, but I am a fan of the Hinderer design.  That one is a VG-10 steel, so that's good. 

The opening on the Kizer Barbosa was also pretty rough out of the box.  But a shot of lube and it smoothed out nicely.  I still like the opening of the ZTs that I have, but the Kizer is smooth enough. 

Looking forward on updates as you use this one. 
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on February 06, 2019, 10:42:44 AM
Awesome!   :thumbsup:

My Kizer came with the cleaning cloth, but not a storage pouch.  I think mine was a lower level line that yours though.  I don't need the storage pouch for the knife, but I am sure I could other uses for it. 

I have been looking at the Kizer Takefu.  It's discontinued, but I am a fan of the Hinderer design.  That one is a VG-10 steel, so that's good. 

The opening on the Kizer Barbosa was also pretty rough out of the box.  But a shot of lube and it smoothed out nicely.  I still like the opening of the ZTs that I have, but the Kizer is smooth enough. 

Looking forward on updates as you use this one.

this one came sharp but not shaving sharp, so I might just try sharpening it this weekend to see if I can get it shaving sharp first before using it
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on February 14, 2019, 12:30:44 PM
How To Carry Your Folding Knives...Tip Up Vs. Tip Down ?!?!?!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wimAo9vGCHk

Tip up carry all the way.  On a quality knife without a flipper or assisted open feature, I never understood why folks are so concerned about the knife opening in their pocket.  Even with flipper open knives, the ones that I own have a good detent such that I haven't had one open in my pocket.  I've tried bumping on the flipper or otherwise try to open it, but the detent is such that I've found that one has to purposely apply pressure to the flipper tab in a downward angle (assuming folded blade is vertical).  With knives like Spyderco (without flipper), I don't see them opening accidentally in any realistic situation. 
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on February 14, 2019, 12:41:07 PM
Update

Kershaw Link (M390)

Broke down a bunch of boxes last week.  Both with the belly section of the blade to cut as well as the tip of the blade to score and fold.  I broke down probably over a dozen boxes and while it wasn't as sharp as out of the box, it was still able to shave some hair off my arm as well as still decently cut paper.  I broke down the boxes into smaller sections that I normally would to get more use out of the Link and some of the boxes were pretty heavy duty.  Anyways, will be cutting up more boxes today.  Will see how it does and whether or not I'll sharpen (which is the second test that I was really looking forward to).

Spyderco Amalgam

One of the biggest reasons I got this knife was to give the Spyderco thumb hole style knife a try.  I have a Benchmade knife with the thumb hole that I carried for a while, but I wanted to give Spyderco a try.  Since this was also a flipper knife, I sort of saw it as a "best of both worlds" knife to try.  I've gotten better at the "middle finger flick" as well as the "thumb throw" method of opening, but I've found that the flipper tab is better for me.  Maybe because I am used to it, but my hand also is in a more natural position for me to use the flipper than the thumb hole.  I've watched a bunch of videos from Michael Janich with Martial Blade Concepts videos and while I see that Spydercos are efficient opening with training, just not for me.  Prior to going to flippers, I used to train with the Benchmade axis lock knives were you can open one handed pretty easily by utilizing the pivot pin.  I have a Benchmade training knife that I used to practice with a lot, but I've also found that some knives can be a little challenging to get the pivot pin/screw just right. 

I haven't used the Amalgam to cut yet, but the S30V steel is one that I've been wanting to test. 
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on February 14, 2019, 01:00:46 PM
Ways to Deploy Folding Knives You Might Not Know About!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5V0HYoMVg4&list=WL&index=138&t=0s

"zits bullshit"   ;D

"zits good if you want to cut some paper or some bugs"  :rofl:

This video was somewhat entertaining and somewhat informative.  I liked his discussion about opening under stress and "playing with your knife" (training).  Never thought about opening with your freehand in the ways he did, and don't really see practical use as long as you are proficient with one handed opening. 
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on February 15, 2019, 09:21:19 AM
Update

Kershaw Link (M390)

Broke down a bunch of boxes last week.  Both with the belly section of the blade to cut as well as the tip of the blade to score and fold.  I broke down probably over a dozen boxes and while it wasn't as sharp as out of the box, it was still able to shave some hair off my arm as well as still decently cut paper.  I broke down the boxes into smaller sections that I normally would to get more use out of the Link and some of the boxes were pretty heavy duty.  Anyways, will be cutting up more boxes today.  Will see how it does and whether or not I'll sharpen (which is the second test that I was really looking forward to).

Spyderco Amalgam

One of the biggest reasons I got this knife was to give the Spyderco thumb hole style knife a try.  I have a Benchmade knife with the thumb hole that I carried for a while, but I wanted to give Spyderco a try.  Since this was also a flipper knife, I sort of saw it as a "best of both worlds" knife to try.  I've gotten better at the "middle finger flick" as well as the "thumb throw" method of opening, but I've found that the flipper tab is better for me.  Maybe because I am used to it, but my hand also is in a more natural position for me to use the flipper than the thumb hole.  I've watched a bunch of videos from Michael Janich with Martial Blade Concepts videos and while I see that Spydercos are efficient opening with training, just not for me.  Prior to going to flippers, I used to train with the Benchmade axis lock knives were you can open one handed pretty easily by utilizing the pivot pin.  I have a Benchmade training knife that I used to practice with a lot, but I've also found that some knives can be a little challenging to get the pivot pin/screw just right. 

I haven't used the Amalgam to cut yet, but the S30V steel is one that I've been wanting to test.

I'm waiting for my m390 Link to arrive.  :D

I'm also partial to the flipper, although I dont mind a thumb stud or other opening systems if its primarily a utility knife
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on February 18, 2019, 11:04:50 PM
I'm waiting for my m390 Link to arrive.  :D

I'm also partial to the flipper, although I dont mind a thumb stud or other opening systems if its primarily a utility knife
Didn’t you order it a while back?

I’ve been playing with the Amalgam more and the different opening methods for speed, grip, etc. Getting better at the thumb and finger opening, but still like the flipper best. Another aspect of Spyderco that I don’t care for is most don’t have a choil or “Spanish notch”.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on February 18, 2019, 11:16:00 PM
Cut up enough boxes to fill a blue recycle bin over the weened with the Kershaw Link. I broke them down into a minimum of 4 panels per box and usually even further. I usually down break them down that far, but I wanted to see how well the Link with m390 held up. I could tell it was losing the edge, but it got through all the boxes with ease.

Did some sharpeness tests when I got home. It could still cut through newspaper, but was hanging up quite a bit on most sections, so I decided to sharpen. I’ve hear horror stories of sharpening M390. After setting the angle in the WE, took me about 10 mins to pull a burr on both sides. Spent maybe another 10 mins to work through the various stones. Started with 400 and used all the way through 1000 and the strops. I was able to get it sharp enough to shave arm hair and go pretty smoothly through newspaper. Still not quite as sharp as most of the ZTs that I have out of the box, but definitely sharp enough for my uses. Think I got it sharper than it came out of the box.

So I’ll call it a success. I still want to be able to get them sharper and my buddies who have the WE said I’m still breaking the stones in since I’ve only sharpened maybe 4-5 knives.

I’ve also been testing a Benchmade D2.  It’s somewhat of a beater and tear knife. D2 is supposed to be one of the more difficult steels to sharpen, so I’ve been testing my sharpening on that. I’ve been using this one for breaking down boxes at home and it’s geen holding up well. I get maybe 2-3 boxes a week at home. Mostly thinner Amazon boxes, but occasionally thicker ones.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on February 19, 2019, 07:43:51 AM
Didn’t you order it a while back?


I got the cheaper one with 420HC steel a while back.  the M390 one should be here soon   :shaka:

made this lanyard with a paracord and bead I had lying around.  the bead is titanium shaped like a revolver cylinder, so I like it.

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7900/47103876791_d3dd7da0a3_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on February 19, 2019, 08:02:32 AM
I got the cheaper one with 420HC steel a while back.  the M390 one should be here soon   :shaka:

made this lanyard with a paracord and bead I had lying around.  the bead is titanium shaped like a revolver cylinder, so I like it.

SNIP
Ahh, gotcha.  While M390 knives can be pricey, it's quickly becoming one of my favorite blade steels.  Next up on the test list are S30V and S35VN.  Ratings seem to have them slightly less on edge retention, but easier to sharpen.  They also seem to be offered on a wider range of knives and for not as much of a premium.

I was just reading up on lanyards and stuff.  I have a bunch of paracord around and might play around with that.  I have a couple of fixed blades that are skeletonized handles that could use a paracord grip as well.  :hmm:
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on March 01, 2019, 10:22:51 AM
Reate Hills
https://www.bladehq.com/item--Reate-Knives-Hills-Flipper-Titanium--27002

this is my best manual folder yet!   :thumbsup:
best thing about this knife is the opening. its manual, but with the strong detent and smooth ball bearing pivot it feels almost like an assisted opener.  the opening is perfect for a manual folder.
the fit and finish is top notch.  it's a simple design, but has a hidden stop pin, different upswept spear point.
overall it is a quality knife.  its made in China but its not cheap.  this was the cheapest Reate knife but was nearly $200.  next cheapest is about $270, so Reate is not a cheap Chinese brand.  I've seen a few reviewed in Blade magazine and they are all top quality.  definitely best Chinese knife I own.   :thumbsup:
this and my ZT 0350 are probably my best 2 folders.
knife also came with a soft pouch with zipper, thinner cloth/nylon pouch, spare parts: few torx screws and 2 washers, and morale patch


(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7832/46327614165_ddc8f7a85a_b.jpg)
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7801/47190065612_554fafe456_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on March 01, 2019, 12:07:34 PM
Reate Hills
https://www.bladehq.com/item--Reate-Knives-Hills-Flipper-Titanium--27002

this is my best manual folder yet!   :thumbsup:
best thing about this knife is the opening. its manual, but with the strong detent and smooth ball bearing pivot it feels almost like an assisted opener.  the opening is perfect for a manual folder.
the fit and finish is top notch.  it's a simple design, but has a hidden stop pin, different upswept spear point.
overall it is a quality knife.  its made in China but its not cheap.  this was the cheapest Reate knife but was nearly $200.  next cheapest is about $270, so Reate is not a cheap Chinese brand.  I've seen a few reviewed in Blade magazine and they are all top quality.  definitely best Chinese knife I own.   :thumbsup:
this and my ZT 0350 are probably my best 2 folders.
knife also came with a soft pouch with zipper, thinner cloth/nylon pouch, spare parts: few torx screws and 2 washers, and morale patch


SNIP
Whoa!  That's nice!  I've been kinda wanting to try one of those "nicer" Chinese brands, like We knives.  This one is interesting too.  Very nice blade and most of the features that I like.

I just put an order in to Knife Center.  Ordered a ZT that was on clearance and a Lionsteel.  Really looking forward to the Lionsteel.  Have heard many great things about them! 
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on March 01, 2019, 12:36:14 PM
Whoa!  That's nice!  I've been kinda wanting to try one of those "nicer" Chinese brands, like We knives.  This one is interesting too.  Very nice blade and most of the features that I like.

I just put an order in to Knife Center.  Ordered a ZT that was on clearance and a Lionsteel.  Really looking forward to the Lionsteel.  Have heard many great things about them!

I was tempted by a couple of those ZT's on sale, and I've heard great things about Lionsteel too
looking forward to your pics and reviews on these knives    :shaka:
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: changemyoil66 on March 01, 2019, 08:30:50 PM
Anyone here with those $600+ knives?

Do u use them? Or keep on the shelf for display.

Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk

Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on March 04, 2019, 09:12:16 AM
I was tempted by a couple of those ZT's on sale, and I've heard great things about Lionsteel too
looking forward to your pics and reviews on these knives    :shaka:
KC sure is slow.  Or at least a LOT slower than Blade HQ.  Placed order Fri morning and just got the notification that my CC was charged.  In my past orders with BladeHQ, the charge was pretty quick and usually shipped the next day.  Sometimes the same day. . .
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on March 04, 2019, 09:14:30 AM
Anyone here with those $600+ knives?

Do u use them? Or keep on the shelf for display.

Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk
Mine are all in the <$300 range right now.  Have either used them all or will shortly.

Most expensive that I've seriously considered was the Hinderer ($450-500 range).  Wouldn't hesitate to use. 
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on March 05, 2019, 07:21:32 AM
KC sure is slow.  Or at least a LOT slower than Blade HQ.  Placed order Fri morning and just got the notification that my CC was charged.  In my past orders with BladeHQ, the charge was pretty quick and usually shipped the next day.  Sometimes the same day. . .

BladeHQ is great!   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on March 05, 2019, 07:29:02 AM
Kizer Uprising
https://www.bladehq.com/item--Kizer-Uprising-Wharncliffe-Frame--52447

this has a strong detent and smooth opening much like the Reate.  makes for a very swift opening and great lockup, almost like assisted opening.  I really like that in a manual folder.
I like this one a little better than my other Kizer Intrepid just bc of the stronger detent.
Wharncliffe blade, S35VN, titanium handles, ceramic ball bearings, frame lock, well built
I got it on ebay for about $40 less than on BladeHQ or KC, so I thought it was a great deal


(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7840/32349039217_1597610dc4_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on March 05, 2019, 12:36:36 PM
Kizer Uprising
https://www.bladehq.com/item--Kizer-Uprising-Wharncliffe-Frame--52447

this has a strong detent and smooth opening much like the Reate.  makes for a very swift opening and great lockup, almost like assisted opening.  I really like that in a manual folder.
I like this one a little better than my other Kizer Intrepid just bc of the stronger detent.
Wharncliffe blade, S35VN, titanium handles, ceramic ball bearings, frame lock, well built
I got it on ebay for about $40 less than on BladeHQ or KC, so I thought it was a great deal


SNIP
Awesome!  You're on a roll! 

I was watching videos last night on the Wharncliffe blade with Michael Janich with Martial Blade Concepts and the purpose behind that shape and his influence (or start) of that design.  Pretty interesting on the discussion of the purpose of the shape.  I was going to try one, but just haven't gotten around to it.  I came close to buying a Spyderco Yojimbo 2 from SEC just before Christmas, but ended up getting another ZT. 

BladeHQ is great!   :thumbsup:

Yeah they are!  KC seems to have a wider selection, but Blade HQ's service is awesome.  I ordered a knife storage bag from BHQ and it had a minor issue with the stitching.  I sent them an email to arrange to sent it back for inspection.  Without a delay, they just sent me a replacement bag.  Their orders also ship super quick and browsing their selection seems easier, especially for me since I was looking for specific steels. 

My KC order finally shipped this morning.  Believe it should be here by Thursday.  ;D
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on March 05, 2019, 01:15:48 PM
now I don't want to get any more cheap knives since I've got better ones recently
now i'm getting pickier, knowing what I want and don't want in a knife
my taste just keeps getting more and more expensive
same thing with firearms now.  i'm willing to spend a little more to get exactly what I want  >:D
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on March 06, 2019, 08:01:50 AM
now I don't want to get any more cheap knives since I've got better ones recently
now i'm getting pickier, knowing what I want and don't want in a knife
my taste just keeps getting more and more expensive
same thing with firearms now.  i'm willing to spend a little more to get exactly what I want  >:D
I hear ya and I am in the same.  Ever since I got into looking into the different steels and then venturing into the >$100 range of ZTs and other brands, I've seen the quality in many of those knives and makes me both appreciate the higher quality as well as sort of less accepting than I used to be for what is "good enough".  There are some lines like Kershaw and Kizer that have both budget and more quality lines, but even then, I have noticed a difference between those and brands like ZT, Hinderer (don't own one yet, but have handled them), etc.  In the last many months, I got only one really budget knife and it was a $25 Kershaw to test out the tanto shape more.  While that knife certainly is useful, you can really tell the difference, especially in the "small details".  Before looking closer into steels and such, I was more focused on blade shapes and what brands were decent, but didn't break the bank.  So it was Kershaw and some Benchmades.  Still a fan of Kershaw, but haven't considered getting one lately.   

I am also getting more selective as I have focused on what I want.  I still have a few brands and other style of blades that I want to try, but definitely have become pickier.  Like you said, it was similar in my evolution in firearms.  While I started buying quality stuff when I first got into firearms, I spent a lot of money trying this and that.  Then eventually focused on what my preferences were and many times it involved spending a little more to get what I want.  I mean I'm still down to try other things if they are on sale or for a great price though.  ;D
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on March 06, 2019, 09:50:49 AM
there are some cheaper knives that I like from Kershaw:
Link M390, Bareknuckle Sandvik 14, Knockout Sandvik 14
they aren't top shelf knives, but they have a place in my EDC lineup.  I like how each of them open and lockup.  M390 is great, and the Sandvik 14 is pretty good as long as i'm not chopping down trees.   :D
the knockout and bareknuckle are thin and light and I often carry these at work
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on March 06, 2019, 09:59:38 AM
couple of CH knives.  same as Eafengrow on Amazon
model 3504 is with S35vn steel, the model 3507 is with M390 steel
I have the 3504 in D2 with G10 scales without the skull design, and the opening and detent are excellent

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2B6ZMeRUiMg&t=20s
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on March 06, 2019, 10:05:20 AM
there are some cheaper knives that I like from Kershaw:
Link M390, Bareknuckle Sandvik 14, Knockout Sandvik 14
they aren't top shelf knives, but they have a place in my EDC lineup.  I like how each of them open and lockup.  M390 is great, and the Sandvik 14 is pretty good as long as i'm not chopping down trees.   :D
the knockout and bareknuckle are thin and light and I often carry these at work
I have a Kershaw Link M390 and it’s a great knife. I would definitely put that one in the quality category. While not as expensive as some of my other favorites, definitely like that knife. I would prefer a handle with more texture, but it’s been a great utility knife.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on March 08, 2019, 04:22:37 PM
LionSteel ROK M390 with aluminum handles. It’s on the lighter side and the handle texture is very light. The flipper opening is pretty smooth, but not quite like the ZT 0562 that has become my favorite. Might have to try adjusting the tension and maybe some oil, but overall good. The blade came very sharp out of the box. Haven’t tried the H.WAYL pocket clip system yet, which was one of the features of this knife.

First impressions of this knife is good overall. On the pricier side, but seems like really good quality and the M390 steel is one of my favorites.

Next to a ZT 0562 for comparison.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on March 11, 2019, 07:05:30 AM
LionSteel ROK M390 with aluminum handles. It’s on the lighter side and the handle texture is very light. The flipper opening is pretty smooth, but not quite like the ZT 0562 that has become my favorite. Might have to try adjusting the tension and maybe some oil, but overall good. The blade came very sharp out of the box. Haven’t tried the H.WAYL pocket clip system yet, which was one of the features of this knife.

First impressions of this knife is good overall. On the pricier side, but seems like really good quality and the M390 steel is one of my favorites.

Next to a ZT 0562 for comparison.

 :thumbsup:
Lionsteel has a great reputation for quality.  although, I've never handled one
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on March 13, 2019, 10:40:45 AM
I ordered a couple deep pocket clips for one of my Kershaw's and a ZT knife, should be here in a week
also got a couple good blades on the way, 1 of them a discontinued ZT I found on ebay, bnib.  i'm looking forward to that one especially   :geekdanc:
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on March 13, 2019, 03:34:50 PM
I ordered a couple deep pocket clips for one of my Kershaw's and a ZT knife, should be here in a week
also got a couple good blades on the way, 1 of them a discontinued ZT I found on ebay, bnib.  i'm looking forward to that one especially   :geekdanc:
One of your ZTs didn’t come with the deep pocket clip?

I think I’m done for a while. Ok, maybe a little bit. Have some firearms stuff I’m looking at adding.   ;D
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on March 13, 2019, 04:09:55 PM
One of your ZTs didn’t come with the deep pocket clip?

I think I’m done for a while. Ok, maybe a little bit. Have some firearms stuff I’m looking at adding.   ;D

the 0350 is the normal pocket clip, which I like.  but the one I ordered has this Punisher design that I like, that's why I got it.  just for the looks.  we'll see how it fits and functions.
and then another clip, same Punisher design i'm going to put on my Kershaw Link.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on March 13, 2019, 04:25:44 PM
ZT0350
https://mxggear.com/collections/zt0350/products/custom-made-titanium-deep-carry-pocket-clip-for-zero-tolerance-knives-27


this one will go on my Kershaw Link.  I read where this ZT 0560/0561 will also fit the Link.  hope it fits.
https://mxggear.com/collections/zt0560-1/products/custom-made-titanium-deep-carry-pocket-clip-for-zero-tolerance-knives-10

theres a seller on ebay with really nice pocket clips, but he's super overloaded with work and cant ship out new work until end of april/may
I think hes the same guy selling on etsy.com, but hes also out for months.  so I went with mxg instead
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on March 14, 2019, 12:33:58 PM
ZT0350
https://mxggear.com/collections/zt0350/products/custom-made-titanium-deep-carry-pocket-clip-for-zero-tolerance-knives-27


this one will go on my Kershaw Link.  I read where this ZT 0560/0561 will also fit the Link.  hope it fits.
https://mxggear.com/collections/zt0560-1/products/custom-made-titanium-deep-carry-pocket-clip-for-zero-tolerance-knives-10

theres a seller on ebay with really nice pocket clips, but he's super overloaded with work and cant ship out new work until end of april/may
I think hes the same guy selling on etsy.com, but hes also out for months.  so I went with mxg instead
Ahh. Cool. Neat way to personalize your blades. The pocket clips get beat up and can show wear quickly. The LionSteel pocket clip that is in a recess actually worked nicely for the few days that I carried that one. It got some bad reviews of being weak, but it doesn’t take much to keep a knife in your pocket.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on March 15, 2019, 07:37:38 AM
ZT 0909  https://www.bladehq.com/item--Zero-Tolerance-0909-Flipper-Knife--34414
got it on ebay.  paid a little more than whats listed on bladeHQ, but its what I wanted so I don't mind.
its sort of like my 0350, but bigger.  and its manual flipper, whereas the 0350 is assisted.  but the manual opening on this 0909 is perfect!   :thumbsup:  the detent is really strong and opening is really smooth.  its the perfect manual flipper action.
3.875" S35VN, G10 grips, liner lock.  its big, but not too big.  this and my 0350 are my best defensive folders.

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7866/47387433681_1598043a10_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on March 15, 2019, 07:49:41 AM
ZT 0909  https://www.bladehq.com/item--Zero-Tolerance-0909-Flipper-Knife--34414
got it on ebay.  paid a little more than whats listed on bladeHQ, but its what I wanted so I don't mind.
its sort of like my 0350, but bigger.  and its manual flipper, whereas the 0350 is assisted.  but the manual opening on this 0909 is perfect!   :thumbsup:  the detent is really strong and opening is really smooth.  its the perfect manual flipper action.
3.875" S35VN, G10 grips, liner lock.  its big, but not too big.  this and my 0350 are my best defensive folders.

Awesome! I picked up one of those from a forum member for a Christmas gift for a buddy. Definitely a solid blade with some heft to it, but like you said, not too big/bulky.

Do you notice a difference between the manual opening of the ZTs and say your Bokers?
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on March 15, 2019, 09:19:22 AM
Awesome! I picked up one of those from a forum member for a Christmas gift for a buddy. Definitely a solid blade with some heft to it, but like you said, not too big/bulky.

Do you notice a difference between the manual opening of the ZTs and say your Bokers?

big difference.  the ZT is way better.
I only have 2 Boker folders, I have a few fixed Bokers.
1 Boker, the opening is pretty good (wildcat).  the other one is not good (Masada).  weak detent, I can gravity flip it out pretty easily.  that I don't like.  the other Boker Wildcat is a very good opening.  seems to be hit or miss with the quality control.
ZT seems to be better built, better quality control.  i'm going to buy more ZT's, i'm sure. 

at the time I got the 0909, there was also a Hinderer ZT that I had my eye on too, but I couldn't afford both so I got the 0909.  the other one has since sold out
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on March 15, 2019, 09:31:50 AM
big difference.  the ZT is way better.
I only have 2 Boker folders, I have a few fixed Bokers.
1 Boker, the opening is pretty good (wildcat).  the other one is not good (Masada).  weak detent, I can gravity flip it out pretty easily.  that I don't like.  the other Boker Wildcat is a very good opening.  seems to be hit or miss with the quality control.
ZT seems to be better built, better quality control.  i'm going to buy more ZT's, i'm sure.
I agree. You are, or at least were, a fan of Boker, so figured you were a good one to ask on difference. I have two Bokers and I think they seem good, but definitely much more impressed by build, feel, and function of ZTs. As well as other lines in the same price and quality range.

It also seems like many Bokers are D2 steel, which isn’t high on my list due to corrosion resistance. So I haven’t looked into them very much.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on March 15, 2019, 12:55:48 PM
I agree. You are, or at least were, a fan of Boker, so figured you were a good one to ask on difference. I have two Bokers and I think they seem good, but definitely much more impressed by build, feel, and function of ZTs. As well as other lines in the same price and quality range.

It also seems like many Bokers are D2 steel, which isn’t high on my list due to corrosion resistance. So I haven’t looked into them very much.

not so much a fan of Boker any more.   :(
now I found brands that fit me better.  like ZT, Kershaw, Kizer, Reate.
the Kizer Uprising and Reate Hills have great opening like the ZT I have, detents are strong and bearings make for a very smooth opening.  the Kizer Intrepid is almost as good, but the detent is just a little on the weak side but still opens smoothly, just not as good as the other ones.
I have a couple ZT's on my wishlist
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on March 15, 2019, 01:57:44 PM
https://www.ebay.com/str/blade4sell?_trksid=p2047675.l2563

ebay store that has custom pocket clips.
they are busy.  11-12 weeks wait time. 
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on March 17, 2019, 05:31:20 PM
got the pocket clips
works well, but is slightly larger than the factory clips, but doesn't bother me.  the Link sits more deep in the pocket.  the 0909 sits about the same in the pocket.  I like how it looks on the Kershaw and the ZT, looks different and I like the Punisher so I like it.

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Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on March 19, 2019, 12:41:45 PM
I got another ZT on the way.  0393, a Hinderer design.  it has a blue anodized frame with G10 overlays, CPM20CV steel.  on sale from BladeHQ
i'm going to pimp this one out!!!   :D
I ordered some Hinderer parts in matching blue anodized Titanium.
i'll update when I get it all done.  should be a few weeks bc some parts coming from Australia
i'm aiming to pimp it out to be not the $5 Hotel st. hoe, but more of a high class $5000 escort hoe.     :geekdanc:
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on March 19, 2019, 12:47:10 PM
I got another ZT on the way.  0393, a Hinderer design.  it has a blue anodized frame with G10 overlays.  on sale from BladeHQ
i'm going to pimp this one out!!!   :D
I ordered some Hinderer parts in matching blue anodized Titanium.
i'll update when I get it all done.  should be a few weeks bc some parts coming from Australia
i'm aiming to pimp it out to be not the $5 Hotel st. hoe, but more of a high class $5000 escort hoe.     :geekdanc:
I was close to ordering that same one in the brown(ish) handled one, but I've held off. 

Damn, I'm starting to cringe when I see you're posting in this thread.  The more nice blades you're getting makes the itch flare up.   ;D
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on March 19, 2019, 12:51:54 PM
the knife was on sale $179, and with the add on parts it will be a $400 knife. 
should be a fun project.    :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on March 19, 2019, 01:33:35 PM
the knife was on sale $179, and with the add on parts it will be a $400 knife. 
should be a fun project.    :thumbsup:
$179 is a great price! Jealous!
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: dustoff003 on March 20, 2019, 09:26:52 AM
You all are enablers. I bought my first new knife in maybe 7 or 8 years this past Monday from Young Guns to thank them for supporting HIFICO. Benchmade Bugout 535SGRY-1. I like it, it is small and light and not to thick. Manual open, Axis lock, CMP-530V steel. Carried tip up on the left, the clip can’t go on the hinge side so no option for tip down, the clip is reversible right to left.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: macsak on March 20, 2019, 10:09:08 AM
You all are enablers. I bought my first new knife in maybe 7 or 8 years this past Monday from Young Guns to thank them for supporting HIFICO. Benchmade Bugout 535SGRY-1. I like it, it is small and light and not to thick. Manual open, Axis lock, CMP-530V steel. Carried tip up on the left, the clip can’t go on the hinge side so no option for tip down, the clip is reversible right to left.

that's not what she said
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on March 20, 2019, 10:38:25 AM
You all are enablers. I bought my first new knife in maybe 7 or 8 years this past Monday from Young Guns to thank them for supporting HIFICO. Benchmade Bugout 535SGRY-1. I like it, it is small and light and not to thick. Manual open, Axis lock, CMP-530V steel. Carried tip up on the left, the clip can’t go on the hinge side so no option for tip down, the clip is reversible right to left.
Awesome! Always good to see!  ;D

My friends are total enablers. When I’m on the fence of buying something, they are like “buy it, buy it, buy it”.

The S30V steel is one of my favorites. I think the make a kydex sheath for that knife that allows neck carry. I was thinking of trying something like that.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on March 20, 2019, 11:06:50 AM
$179 is a great price! Jealous!

i'll be the enabler again.
they still have it on sale at BladeHQ.   >:D



the knife was on sale $179, and with the add on parts it will be a $400 knife. 
should be a fun project.    :thumbsup:

I made a mistake, it's only going to be a $300 knife.  cheaper already.   ;)
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on March 20, 2019, 12:19:27 PM
i'll be the enabler again.
they still have it on sale at BladeHQ.   >:D



I made a mistake, it's only going to be a $300 knife.  cheaper already.   ;)

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"Saving up" for a .22lr rifle, LPVO, etc.   ;D
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on March 20, 2019, 12:50:42 PM
this video was my inspiration for modding the 0393
I won't make it exactly the same.  I still like the G10 overlays so i'll leave those on.
I like this guys knife videos

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBH8JGFipns
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on March 21, 2019, 12:11:08 PM
this video was my inspiration for modding the 0393
I won't make it exactly the same.  I still like the G10 overlays so i'll leave those on.
I like this guys knife videos

The edge on that 0392 looked awesome!  That customization was pretty cool.  Similar to firearms, I tend to want to keep things closer to stock, but I do appreciate when folks put the effort to personalize and customize. 

He's super detail oriented!  Hearing the sound of a high pitch "catching" on closing.  Now I wonder if any of my knives make that sound.  I don't need "everything be perfect", but interesting what other folks notice or deem important to them.  As long as it opens smoothly and reliably, all good for me.  I don't use the stud to open my similarly designed knives (0562 and others). I'm good with G10 scales/overlays.  I prefer the grip of the G10 and texture than the look of carbon fiber scales.  I did notice his comment about pressure on the frame lock can affect opening. 

I have a couple of 20CV and 204P knives and they are pretty pricey.  Same with the M390, but I seem to be able to find M390 more often and for not quite a high a premium than the other two.  I am really interested in the Spanto profile though. 

I checked last night and BHQ still has them in stock, but didn't order one. . . yet. . .  ;D
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on March 22, 2019, 01:54:20 PM
got the 0393 and its great!   :thumbsup:
flipping action is like butter.  I have knives that are snappier but this one is very smooth, a lot like my Reate which is really smooth too
some people don't like the G10 overlays on the Titanium framelock, but I like it.  its kind of like the best of both worlds.  I have another framelock with g10 overlays (Kershaw) which I like the design too.  didn't like it at first but its very functional.
its pretty thin but not too much, and its not too heavy and not too light but just right.  a great EDC knife.
I like the spanto blade, its different
some people don't like the black coating on the top, but I like it, matches the G10
overall great knife, its been in my pocket the past 2 days.  very comfortable to carry.  the action is like butter.   :geekdanc:


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Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on March 25, 2019, 07:01:50 AM
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7871/32516489907_3d4471809a_b.jpg)

got some parts in.  still waiting on the parts from Australia.
only did the pivot screw which has a Hinderer look with the flat head screw.  and also did the filler tab.
I got the pocket clip but turns out I ordered the wrong one.  but theres one that I would rather have but its not in stock so i'll wait for it.
looks a little better, the pivot screw works fine doesn't change the smooth opening at all
just have to wait for the Australian stuff to arrive.  it hasn't even shipped yet, hope it ships soon
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: Heavies on March 25, 2019, 08:03:33 PM
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My work EDC.  8Cr13Mov takes a hair shaving razor edge and this steel HOLDS it.  I cut many many very tough substances almost daily, wash it off and slice steak like a scalpel.   Only paid 40 or 50 bucks or something like that for it.  Very good blade.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on March 25, 2019, 08:14:46 PM

My work EDC.  8Cr13Mov takes a hair shaving razor edge and this steel HOLDS it.  I cut many many very tough substances almost daily, wash it off and slice steak like a scalpel.   Only paid 40 or 50 bucks or something like that for it.  Very good blade.
What do you use to sharpen?

I have a couple of Kershaws with 8Cr13MoV and they have held up well. That steel is known for being easy to sharpen, but not as much for edge retention and corrosion resistance. But each maker has their own heatreat and other processes that can make a difference.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on March 27, 2019, 07:50:51 AM
Civivi Aquila.  the budget brand of We knives
https://www.bladehq.com/item--CIVIVI-Aquila-Flipper-Liner-Lock--89931
got this a few weeks ago
overall its pretty good for $68
VG10 steel, G10 scales, steel liner lock, ceramic bearings.  opening is pretty smooth, detent is fairly strong.  comes out fast, although not as fast as my ZT's, or Kizers, or Reate.  but those are much more expensive than this Civivi
blade is a satin finish which looks very nice, shiny but not polished.  and not too heavy
overall I like it for an inexpensive blade

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4836/46664132884_672a9b2a9f_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: Heavies on March 27, 2019, 09:34:03 AM
What do you use to sharpen?

I have a couple of Kershaws with 8Cr13MoV and they have held up well. That steel is known for being easy to sharpen, but not as much for edge retention and corrosion resistance. But each maker has their own heatreat and other processes that can make a difference.
Use the cheap lanski with 3 stones to get the very sharp edge, then do touch ups with smith's
https://lansky.com/products/std-3-stone-system/
https://www.smithsproducts.com/3-in-1-sharpening-system

I cut everything from fiberglass to kevlar with this blade, almost daily.   The edge retention is much better than most cheaper knives.  Not that easy to sharpen, but way easier than my M390 blade.  Touch up maybe every 2 weeks, reset the bevel maybe 3 or 4 months with the lanski.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: Heavies on March 30, 2019, 05:47:50 PM
Ferrum Forge, Gent.  Titanium, G10 scales, s35vn blade

Came sharp, and with a few licks on the Lanski and a light strop polish, it's shaving sharp.

Very light weight and nice to carry. Would not consider a self defense blade per the shape and the handle, too slick and small, not much to keep your own hand from slipping onto the blade, more of a utility shape IMO.   Will test it out at work to see how well it holds up to hard cutting tasks. 


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Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on April 01, 2019, 08:26:43 AM
custom knife maker David Kulis
idk how much these cost, but I imagine they're very expensive.  great looking knives

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egzUWWQPOHE
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: jaynick on April 01, 2019, 09:21:20 AM
custom knife maker David Kulis
idk how much these cost, but I imagine they're very expensive.  great looking knives

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egzUWWQPOHE
Those look nice but fit n finish isn't that great for a high dollar custom. From fast forwarding thru the vid i noticed tolerances could be tighter all over and the grind is sloppy.Custom knife market is so saturated from forged in fire. 90% of custom makers like this guy just started within the last few years and have mostly YouTube training instead of apprenticeship under a master bladesmith. It's possible to be self taught and become great but most are hobbyists just putting out ok work mostly because of their modern equipment and the expensive materials they use. A lot of them also don't understand ergonomics or actually use knives. heeter knives for example.

  It's kind of like the solar boom in hawaii. Most will disappear in 5 years
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on April 01, 2019, 10:09:37 AM
Those look nice but fit n finish isn't that great for a high dollar custom. From fast forwarding thru the vid i noticed tolerances could be tighter all over and the grind is sloppy.Custom knife market is so saturated from forged in fire. 90% of custom makers like this guy just started within the last few years and have mostly YouTube training instead of apprenticeship under a master bladesmith. It's possible to be self taught and become great but most are hobbyists just putting out ok work mostly because of their modern equipment and the expensive materials they use. A lot of them also don't understand ergonomics or actually use knives. heeter knives for example.

  It's kind of like the solar boom in hawaii. Most will disappear in 5 years

I was looking for some custom parts for my ZT's lately, and most places I found are backordered for several weeks.
this custom knife maker is rather new, I think only a few years in the practice
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on April 02, 2019, 08:22:25 AM
I might need this pretty soon   :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q16ahXyfh3s
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on April 02, 2019, 08:31:53 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nw23PCZLGMI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikKG5FGrnSU&t=1s
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on April 02, 2019, 09:56:39 AM
I might need this pretty soon   :D

SNIP
:rofl:

You've been on buying spree lately!  I've slowed down as I've filled my 12 capacity carrier with "keepers".  I still have a couple of slots in that carrier that can be replaced though.  I have a bunch that didn't make the cut in a plastic bin though. 

Now that I'm in CrapBack, I've channeled my attention back on firearms.  That and hopefully I'll have a few more revolvers to sample in the next range day.   ;D
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on April 02, 2019, 10:23:08 AM
:rofl:

You've been on buying spree lately!  I've slowed down as I've filled my 12 capacity carrier with "keepers".  I still have a couple of slots in that carrier that can be replaced though.  I have a bunch that didn't make the cut in a plastic bin though. 

Now that I'm in CrapBack, I've channeled my attention back on firearms.  That and hopefully I'll have a few more revolvers to sample in the next range day.   ;D

nice!   
not nice that we're in Crapback, but nice that you're attention is back on firearms and will have some more revolvers to sample.   :shaka:

I also got two 18 knife capacity knife bags.  1 is Kershaw, the other is ZT branded.  but they're exactly the same bag just with different logos on the front.
i'll be selling some of my knives soon.  a few Kershaw and a few CRKT.  good knives, but I have too many now.  some gotta go.
I now appreciate the ZT brand the most.  great quality, fit and finish.  all 3 of my ZT's are great knives.  my 1 Reate blade is very good too.  those 4 knives are probably my best folders.  and I got 1 more ZT on the way.  couldn't resist this one.   :D
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on April 02, 2019, 01:31:02 PM
Ferrum Forge, Gent.  Titanium, G10 scales, s35vn blade

Came sharp, and with a few licks on the Lanski and a light strop polish, it's shaving sharp.

Very light weight and nice to carry. Would not consider a self defense blade per the shape and the handle, too slick and small, not much to keep your own hand from slipping onto the blade, more of a utility shape IMO.   Will test it out at work to see how well it holds up to hard cutting tasks. 


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from Massdrop?
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: Heavies on April 02, 2019, 10:00:54 PM
from Massdrop?

Yeah, stupid nutnfancy videos...   :rofl:

Super tempted to get one of those Boker Strike autos for $40 they recently had on one of their vids.  Can't carry it anywhere here so pointless.  Don't need another letter opener.  hahah
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on April 02, 2019, 10:08:20 PM
Yeah, stupid nutnfancy videos...   :rofl:

Super tempted to get one of those Boker Strike autos for $40 they recently had on one of their vids.  Can't carry it anywhere here so pointless.  Don't need another letter opener.  hahah
Do it! It’s futile to resist the power of the dark side.  ;D
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on April 03, 2019, 07:08:54 AM
Yeah, stupid nutnfancy videos...   :rofl:

Super tempted to get one of those Boker Strike autos for $40 they recently had on one of their vids.  Can't carry it anywhere here so pointless.  Don't need another letter opener.  hahah

those massdrop sales are pretty good sometimes.  I just recently started to browse their website.  but I have to resist the temptation.....  >:D
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on April 03, 2019, 12:52:10 PM
$750 CRKT

https://youtu.be/9Ph3V0ZSd0E
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on April 05, 2019, 08:44:36 AM
one more ZT.  this is my 4th ZT.  0920.  Les George design. 3.9 inches of CPM 20CV.  titanium frame lock, with these grooves in the frame for grip which are really nice.     https://www.bladehq.com/item--Zero-Tolerance-Les-George-0920--52151
it's big, but its not too heavy.  its 9 inches overall.
the detent is slightly stronger than the 0393, the Hinderer design, but the 0920 is super smooth.  I can just tip the blade down without even moving the knife, to close the blade, and it just falls back into lockup position just by gravity alone. 
it opens super slick, super smooth.  I think this one and the 0393 are maybe the best opening folders I have.  the Reate comes in a close 3rd.  but all 3 open really great.  each detent is strong but too strong.
I have it pictured with the 0909, another Les George design with a 3.75" blade and is also a big folder.  but the 0920 is even a little bigger.
overall, I really like all the ZT's I have, but the 0920 and the 0393 are probably my favorite overall.  although the 0350 and 0909 are also great.
I also have some bronze anodized screws on order to put on the 0920 to match the bronze pocket clip.  should get here next week.


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Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: eyeeatingfish on April 06, 2019, 08:26:22 PM
A little self promotion, just finished this kiridashi style. My first time trying jeweling as well

Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on April 12, 2019, 07:11:23 AM
did the parts upgrades for my ZT0393
changed out the stainless parts for blue anodized titanium parts.  except for 1 filler tab and 2 screws that are stainless, the rest are blue anodized titanium.
I changed the scale screws, filler tabs both sides, pocket clip, pivot screw both sides, standoffs, and blade stop pin.
basically I took it all apart and replaced everything except the blade, frame, and G10 inserts, and replaced everything else, and put it back together
it was a learning experience, and I like it a lot better now since I added my own personal touch
it functions the same, just looks better.  my new church knife!   :geekdanc:

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Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: eyeeatingfish on April 19, 2019, 10:29:57 PM
A little more self promotion
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on April 20, 2019, 05:00:06 AM
A little more self promotion

Is that a scraper?
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: eyeeatingfish on April 21, 2019, 09:30:20 PM
Is that a scraper?

I guess it would work as that, it does have a chisel grind. I call it a push cleaver. It was a scrap of steel that really wasn't long enough to make a good push dagger so I decided to make it wider. I could have made a spade shape but as you can see it would only be about a ¾" or 1" blade length.

I guess it is more utility and wouldn't be the best self defense weapon.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on June 08, 2019, 05:19:59 PM
Kizer Sheepdog XL.  got it from whitemountain knives
https://knifejoy.com/kizer-v5488c2-kizer-c01c-xl-sheepdog-od-green-g10-knife/
big knife. 4 inches of 154CM steel.  smooth ball bearing pivot. G10 handles. came shaving sharp.  overall its well worth the money if you want a bigger knife.
pic is next to my Kizer Uprising which has a 3.5" blade, OAL just under 8" for a size comparison

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Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on July 05, 2019, 03:57:18 PM
https://www.knifecenter.com/item/ZT0566/zero-tolerance-hinderer-0566-assisted-flipper-s35vn-stonewash-blade-black-g10-with-stainless-steel-back-handle?utm_source=website&utm_medium=slider&utm_campaign=zt_hinderer_0566_flipper_sale-2019-7-3&kcno=123

sale on the ZT0566 for $119.95  Hinderer design, assisted opening
mine will be delivered tomorrow!   :geekdanc:
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on July 05, 2019, 06:53:29 PM
https://www.knifecenter.com/item/ZT0566/zero-tolerance-hinderer-0566-assisted-flipper-s35vn-stonewash-blade-black-g10-with-stainless-steel-back-handle?utm_source=website&utm_medium=slider&utm_campaign=zt_hinderer_0566_flipper_sale-2019-7-3&kcno=123

sale on the ZT0566 for $119.95  Hinderer design, assisted opening
mine will be delivered tomorrow!   :geekdanc:
Nice. I have one in S35 and one more. Nice blades. Even if I have a couple, I was tempted to get another for that price!
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on July 09, 2019, 08:21:14 AM
Was at a family gathering for one of my best friends over the weekend.  My best friend, his brother and I all are into knives.  I got them ZTs last Christmas.  I even got my best friend's son a Benchmade after I lost a few bets.  Anyways, I notice that the son is carrying his at the get together and we start chatting about it.  Then one of the other friends shows off his knife, then a couple of the uncles.  Was pretty interesting that almost everyone in the circle of "drinking" had pretty nice blades.   ;D 

We eventually got to talking about sharpening and I found that more than a few sent their knives back to Benchmade or ZT regularly for sharpening.  They used it as an excuse to their SO why they needed another while one was off being "worked on".   :rofl:

What are more interesting was our conversations about OTF knives and their legality in HI.  I did some digging and there's a bunch of discussion about what features constitute a switchblade.  I'll just leave it at that. . .
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: Teichi on July 09, 2019, 03:24:14 PM
This is what I usually take with me when traveling to the Continental US. I keep a multi-tool on the belt. One in front pocket, one in back pocket, and the little SOG on the key chain.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on July 10, 2019, 10:15:37 AM
This is what I usually take with me when traveling to the Continental US. I keep a multi-tool on the belt. One in front pocket, one in back pocket, and the little SOG on the key chain.
That’s a nice variety. I’ve noticed a lot more folks carrying multi tools on their belt on the daily.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on July 16, 2019, 01:03:29 PM
ZT 0920, 3.9 inches of CPM20CV steel
one of my best blades.  opening is like butter.  its on sale for 179.  just back in stock
if you want a bigger blade that is super well made, this is it!   :thumbsup:


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Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on July 16, 2019, 01:07:06 PM
ZT 0920, 3.9 inches of CPM20CV steel
one of my best blades.  opening is like butter.  its on sale for 179.  just back in stock
if you want a bigger blade that is super well made, this is it!   :thumbsup:

Saw that and very tempted. Does it have a concave section at the base of the blade? Looks like it.

I came close to ordering another 0566 just because it is cheap.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on July 16, 2019, 01:39:19 PM
Saw that and very tempted. Does it have a concave section at the base of the blade? Looks like it.

I came close to ordering another 0566 just because it is cheap.

you mean by the pivot?
yes, a small area.
the detent lock up and KVT bearings make for a perfect opening, in my opinion.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on July 17, 2019, 12:20:51 PM
you mean by the pivot?
yes, a small area.
the detent lock up and KVT bearings make for a perfect opening, in my opinion.
Yeah.  I avoid blades that have a concave section, but just personal preference than anything negative.  Otherwise, I would have ordered one of those.  The 20CV steel was very appealing.  I've mostly pared down blasde steels to M390, 20CV and 30/35VN.  Still have a couple of Boker D2 that are excellent, but just avoid using them due to less corrosion resistance. 
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on July 17, 2019, 12:56:52 PM
Yeah.  I avoid blades that have a concave section, but just personal preference than anything negative.  Otherwise, I would have ordered one of those.  The 20CV steel was very appealing.  I've mostly pared down blasde steels to M390, 20CV and 30/35VN.  Still have a couple of Boker D2 that are excellent, but just avoid using them due to less corrosion resistance.

20CV, M390, 30/35VN are at the top of my list too
I've come to really like ZT knives now.  I have 5, and all of them are great and well made
I have a couple Kershaw that I really like too and carry often, maybe I carry these the most.  the Link M390 and the Knockout Sandvik steel.  these are small and the knockout is thin so its easy to carry with just about anything i'm wearing.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: changemyoil66 on July 17, 2019, 01:00:04 PM
IDK if I posted this before, but I got diff knives for diff days.  Like shoes.

1) Range day knife-don't care if it gets beat up, dirty, and dulled.  I'll use it on concrete if I have to ($50 knife)

2) EDC knife-Still sort of the above, but not to that extent.  Won't use on concrete, but will use on boxes, open paint cans, etc... ($65 knife)

3) Glock K-Bar-Got it cause it looks cool and was cheap.  Don't use it for anything at all. ($19.99 on amazon from Glock)

I don't own any expensive knives, because then I won't use them at all.  To pretty to use.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on July 17, 2019, 01:05:03 PM
20CV, M390, 30/35VN are at the top of my list too
I've come to really like ZT knives now.  I have 5, and all of them are great and well made
I have a couple Kershaw that I really like too and carry often, maybe I carry these the most.  the Link M390 and the Knockout Sandvik steel.  these are small and the knockout is thin so its easy to carry with just about anything i'm wearing.
I have a bunch of ZTs and they are my fave overall. I’m trying a Lionsteel and a Hinderer, but haven’t used those as much yet. I also still like Kershaw and have one of their M390 and wouldn’t hesitate to get another.

I have a couple of Spydercos as well. Good knives, but just haven’t displaced ZT.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on July 17, 2019, 01:09:49 PM
IDK if I posted this before, but I got diff knives for diff days.  Like shoes.

1) Range day knife-don't care if it gets beat up, dirty, and dulled.  I'll use it on concrete if I have to ($50 knife)

2) EDC knife-Still sort of the above, but not to that extent.  Won't use on concrete, but will use on boxes, open paint cans, etc... ($65 knife)

3) Glock K-Bar-Got it cause it looks cool and was cheap.  Don't use it for anything at all. ($19.99 on amazon from Glock)

I don't own any expensive knives, because then I won't use them at all.  To pretty to use.
1) Usually a Kershaw for me. I have a few “beater” ZTs as well, but yeah. Range days can beat up a blade, but they are tools.

2) Depends on my dress (work, more casual, etc). I have a ZT 0562CF (actually from another 2a member) that is one I carry most often, but little too bulky for work attire.

Understand issue of budget. I’m not rolling in $$$, but much more relaxed on that front these days. Nothing wrong with sticking to value, but like with many things in life, quality generally does come at a premium.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on July 17, 2019, 04:08:03 PM
for church, I bring either my ZT0393 Hinderer design, or the Reate Hills.  those are my best looking knives, also they are well made. 
I don't really use them at church, but just in case I need something, at least they'll look good when I bust it out.   :geekdanc:
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on August 26, 2019, 01:03:37 PM
my 2 ZT Hinderer knives.  0393 and 0566
on the 0393 I changed just about everything except the blade and the frame
on the 0566 I just changed the pivot screw to the Hinderer looking flathead screw, and added the Punisher pocket clip which makes it easier to draw and its a deep carry clip that also fits thicker pockets.  form and function.
both great knives.  as are all of my ZT's.  can't go wrong with ZT.


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Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on August 26, 2019, 08:21:15 PM
Nice Stang!

I’ve been seeing some good sales on blades lately, but been holding off while I focus on getting an LPVO. That and I had gone through a buying spree. Need to get rid of some.  ;D
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: macsak on August 26, 2019, 08:57:51 PM
Nice Stang!

I’ve been seeing some good sales on blades lately, but been holding off while I focus on getting an LPVO. That and I had gone through a buying spree. Need to get rid of some.  ;D

you should donate to someone that owns no knives, firearms, ammo, nor any reloading components...
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on August 27, 2019, 07:18:18 AM
you should donate to someone that owns no knives, firearms, ammo, nor any reloading components...
That sounds like a very borrrrriiiinnggg person  ;D
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on August 27, 2019, 09:04:00 AM
you should donate to someone that owns no knives, firearms, ammo, nor any reloading components...

Why would he donate to someone who chooses not to help themselves?   :rofl:
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: changemyoil66 on August 27, 2019, 09:28:24 AM
Not that anyone here does anything illegal, but that stabbing on the free way was with a switch blade which is illegal.  So even if self defense, state might go after defender for that.

Not only switchblades, but butterfly knives and any spring loaded or inertia operated knives are also illegal.  And dirks and daggers.  But diving knives are legal, even though technically defined as a dagger (sharp edge on 2 sides).  Per case notes at bottom of law.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on August 27, 2019, 11:44:24 AM
Not that anyone here does anything illegal, but that stabbing on the free way was with a switch blade which is illegal.  So even if self defense, state might go after defender for that.

Not only switchblades, but butterfly knives and any spring loaded or inertia operated knives are also illegal.  And dirks and daggers.  But diving knives are legal, even though technically defined as a dagger (sharp edge on 2 sides).  Per case notes at bottom of law.


but a 30" torque wrench would be ok.  just in case you need to change a belt or tire on the road.   ;)
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: changemyoil66 on August 27, 2019, 12:31:08 PM

but a 30" torque wrench would be ok.  just in case you need to change a belt or tire on the road.   ;)

Machete are g2g.  But in Vegas, machete's are illegal to OC/CC.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on August 27, 2019, 12:38:43 PM
Machete are g2g.  But in Vegas, machete's are illegal to OC/CC.

I've seen people walking in kalihi carrying a machete, golf club, or baseball bat
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: macsak on August 27, 2019, 01:51:47 PM
That sounds like a very borrrrriiiinnggg person  ;D

heads
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: changemyoil66 on August 27, 2019, 02:03:43 PM
I've seen people walking in kalihi carrying a machete, golf club, or baseball bat

Amazing how a state that issues CCW's like candy (shall issue) and has permitless OC, it's illegal to OC a knife or conceal a knife with a blade longer than 2.5 inches.

But here where no OC/CCW permits are issued, we have no knife/sword/machete/razor blade law.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on August 28, 2019, 03:28:31 PM
is Damascus steel any good?
what are the pros/cons of Damascus steel?
how good is it compared to other steels
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on August 28, 2019, 03:41:29 PM
is Damascus steel any good?
what are the pros/cons of Damascus steel?
how good is it compared to other steels
Pro: Looks awesome
Con: Think expensive

I have one, but it's a custom blade.  I got it primarily for the look of Damascus.  Look back on page 4 of this thread for pics.

I haven't used that blade, so can't tell you about performance.  I had been tempted to try a Damascus Kershaw and another manufacturer, but from what I could tell, the corrosion resistance would've been crappy. 

Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on August 28, 2019, 03:44:35 PM
Pro: Looks awesome
Con: Think expensive

I have one, but it's a custom blade.  I got it primarily for the look of Damascus.  Look back on page 4 of this thread for pics.

I haven't used that blade, so can't tell you about performance.  I had been tempted to try a Damascus Kershaw and another manufacturer, but from what I could tell, the corrosion resistance would've been crappy.

ok. thanks.  I might just try one just to see how it performs.
found a Civivi blade that looks interesting, not too expensive.  less than $100.  but I don't really need it.  but I've bought a lot of stuff I don't need.   :D
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on August 28, 2019, 03:57:17 PM
ok. thanks.  I might just try one just to see how it performs.
found a Civivi blade that looks interesting, not too expensive.  less than $100.  but I don't really need it.  but I've bought a lot of stuff I don't need.   :D
Do it!  ;D

I’ve been wanting to try a Civivi as well. But same boat. Don’t really “need” any more knives.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on August 28, 2019, 05:02:16 PM
Do it!  ;D

I’ve been wanting to try a Civivi as well. But same boat. Don’t really “need” any more knives.

I have 1 Civivi with VG10 steel that I like.  the opening is really smooth.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: eyeeatingfish on August 28, 2019, 11:29:43 PM
is Damascus steel any good?
what are the pros/cons of Damascus steel?
how good is it compared to other steels

Short answer is: It depends.

The construction of damascus in a quality knife relies heavily in the proper bonding (forge welding) of the different layers of steel. They have to bond well enough that they can be twisted and filed and beat on and not delaminate.

Use the right steel and get a good bond and they can be perfectly good knives. Beautiful and usually expensive (though some factor knives are quite affordable) but still good knives.

From everything I have read though, if you put up high quality damascus to regular high quality knife steel, the regular knife steel will be slightly better due to its homogeneous nature.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on August 30, 2019, 12:56:02 PM
I have 1 Civivi with VG10 steel that I like.  the opening is really smooth.
My VG10 is a Kizer Barbosa.  It's a smaller blade and haven't used it yet.  The opening is smooth, but not as "positive" as with the detents of the ZTs.  I'd like to try more VG10 steel though.

Short answer is: It depends.

The construction of damascus in a quality knife relies heavily in the proper bonding (forge welding) of the different layers of steel. They have to bond well enough that they can be twisted and filed and beat on and not delaminate.

Use the right steel and get a good bond and they can be perfectly good knives. Beautiful and usually expensive (though some factor knives are quite affordable) but still good knives.

From everything I have read though, if you put up high quality damascus to regular high quality knife steel, the regular knife steel will be slightly better due to its homogeneous nature.
Delamination is supposed to be common in cheaper damascus products.  At least according to a couple of my knife making buddies.  No personal experience though. 

Regarding quality of steel, it also depends on what you are using it for.  The micro-lamination nature of damascus makes it popular for kitchen knives.  My dad had one and it was a great knife, but corrosion resistance was crap.  Corrosion resistance, or lack thereof is one of the main reasons why I haven't bought more damascus. 
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on August 30, 2019, 01:42:57 PM
my Civivi Aguila detent is very good.  I can't gravity flip it, so its strong enough to hold the blade closed.  the bearings are very smooth too
there was a break in period so to speak for a few weeks where it was not so smooth, but after opening it several times over a few weeks it got better. now it opens very smooth and detent is very good
My ZT's are all better of course, but the civivi isn't bad at all.  I like it better than my Boker folders.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: eyeeatingfish on August 30, 2019, 09:44:29 PM
My VG10 is a Kizer Barbosa.  It's a smaller blade and haven't used it yet.  The opening is smooth, but not as "positive" as with the detents of the ZTs.  I'd like to try more VG10 steel though.
Delamination is supposed to be common in cheaper damascus products.  At least according to a couple of my knife making buddies.  No personal experience though. 

Regarding quality of steel, it also depends on what you are using it for.  The micro-lamination nature of damascus makes it popular for kitchen knives.  My dad had one and it was a great knife, but corrosion resistance was crap.  Corrosion resistance, or lack thereof is one of the main reasons why I haven't bought more damascus.

Getting the metal very clean and getting the right temperature is key. From the forging videos I have watched, the smiths often test it by filing away at and edge and making sure they stick together. I have never seen one delaminate either but I would imagine it a problem with an ametuer or a cheap knife.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on September 03, 2019, 10:53:27 AM
my Civivi Aguila detent is very good.  I can't gravity flip it, so its strong enough to hold the blade closed.  the bearings are very smooth too
there was a break in period so to speak for a few weeks where it was not so smooth, but after opening it several times over a few weeks it got better. now it opens very smooth and detent is very good
My ZT's are all better of course, but the civivi isn't bad at all.  I like it better than my Boker folders.
Ahh.  Maybe the Kizer just needs some working in.  I have plenty of others, but I got this particular knife to test the VG10, but just haven't had a chance.  ZTs in S30/S35 and M390 (and similar) are my current preference. 
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on September 04, 2019, 07:44:57 AM
these are the top 5 folders that I carry most often.  not necessarily the best, but the ones that make their way into my pocket the most:

1.  Kershaw Link - M390
2.  Kershaw Knockout - Sandvik14C28N
3.  ZT 0909 - S35VN
4.  ZT 0566 - S35VN
5.  ZT 0393 - CPM20CV

the ZT are better quality, but the Kershaw blades are slightly smaller and the Knockout is very thin, so they are easy to carry with anything i'm wearing.  each one of their pocket clips are very functional.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on September 13, 2019, 01:05:10 PM
these are both Dmitri Sinkevich designs by Kershaw and ZT.  I had the Kershaw for a little while, I just got the ZT
the Kershaw Atmos was around $30, the ZT 0452CF is $240 retail but I got it on ebay for $160 so I could not pass up that deal   :shaka:
similar blade designs, the Kershaw is 3" blade, the ZT is 4.1" blade.  overall the ZT is about 2 inches longer OAL. Kershaw is 8Cr steel, the ZT is S35VN.
both are super snappy and smooth opening, riding on KVT bearings.
the ZT is really light with the CF handle.  half the handle is CF the other half is Ti.  the opening on both these are really, really nice!
this is my 6th ZT, and all of them are worth the money.  great parts, opening is great on all of them, all of the steels are top notch.
you cannot go wrong with ZT!!!!!   
and sometimes Kershaw is pretty good too.  :geekdanc:

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Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on September 23, 2019, 03:37:11 PM
got 2 new custom pocket clips from a seller on ebay.  really long wait time, he was super back ordered
but they are really nice, engraved, deep carry clips.  works great with heavy pockets too

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Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on October 13, 2019, 12:49:13 PM
Been busting ass at work lately, so splurged with some OT money on some fixed blades.

SOG Pillar S35VN
Emerson Utility 154CM
CRKT C/K Dragon
KaBar TDI

Very impressed will all, for various reasons and intended use or gear combination. Will definitely look harder at SOG (this particular line) and Emerson foxes knives. Maybe more overall impressed with the CRKT, esp for the price. Might get a couple more for various uses.

Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on October 15, 2019, 01:49:21 PM
Been busting ass at work lately, so splurged with some OT money on some fixed blades.

SOG Pillar S35VN
Emerson Utility 154CM
CRKT C/K Dragon
KaBar TDI

Very impressed will all, for various reasons and intended use or gear combination. Will definitely look harder at SOG (this particular line) and Emerson foxes knives. Maybe more overall impressed with the CRKT, esp for the price. Might get a couple more for various uses.

nice!
that Kabar looks interesting
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on October 15, 2019, 04:17:40 PM
nice!
that Kabar looks interesting
It’s intended for left hand carry and draw. Wore around a few days and as long as you have a decent belt, it’s quite comfortable and easy draw. I’m thinking of getting a couple other variants. Similar concept and different blade length and shapes.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: aieahound on October 15, 2019, 05:03:45 PM
Went cheap knife shopping recently.

Top ones a ganzo. Cheap knives but decent blades. Advertised as D2 steel on this model but I don’t know. Smooth opener though.
I’ve been pretty happy with ganzo for my knock around but tend to stick with Kershaws.

Bottom one I bought for shits and giggles as I loved the shape and I could get a sheath for it.
Carbon steel blade so easy to sharpen but gotta keep it oiled. (I use plain cooking oil)

Opening the picture makes them look distorted. :wacko:
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on October 18, 2019, 04:23:35 PM
Went cheap knife shopping recently.

Top ones a ganzo. Cheap knives but decent blades. Advertised as D2 steel on this model but I don’t know. Smooth opener though.
I’ve been pretty happy with ganzo for my knock around but tend to stick with Kershaws.

Bottom one I bought for shits and giggles as I loved the shape and I could get a sheath for it.
Carbon steel blade so easy to sharpen but gotta keep it oiled. (I use plain cooking oil)

Opening the picture makes them look distorted. :wacko:
Nothing wrong with cheap nicely priced knives.  As long as they perform the intended function/use. 

I tend to stay away from D2 now due to poor corrosion resistance.  But that's because I'm not as disciplined with the care.  Had some that corroded, but a few just sort of developed a patina and stopped there. 
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on October 28, 2019, 07:51:56 AM
Tops Desert Son
https://www.bladehq.com/item--TOPS-Knives-Desert-Son--4423
I wanted a fixed blade that I could beat around.  use while doing yard work, or take to kokohead.  I might use it to dig in the dirt or use for a prybar, or other tool-like uses.
so far I've worn it a couple times doing yard work.  I like that its not too big, 3" blade of 1095, easy to sharpen and its not in the way as I move around.  .19" thick, feels pretty durable.  kydex sheath that can pivot 360° with steel belt clip, I have it for a cross draw horizontal carry right now bc its comfortable to carry as I do yard work.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48975617956_1f2ef5bcfa_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on October 28, 2019, 12:04:36 PM
Tops Desert Son
https://www.bladehq.com/item--TOPS-Knives-Desert-Son--4423
I wanted a fixed blade that I could beat around.  use while doing yard work, or take to kokohead.  I might use it to dig in the dirt or use for a prybar, or other tool-like uses.
so far I've worn it a couple times doing yard work.  I like that its not too big, 3" blade of 1095, easy to sharpen and its not in the way as I move around.  .19" thick, feels pretty durable.  kydex sheath that can pivot 360° with steel belt clip, I have it for a cross draw horizontal carry right now bc its comfortable to carry as I do yard work.

SNIP
Nice!  There were a couple of TOPS fixed blades that I was looking at.  Those seem super sturdy.  I also remember them from the movie Hunted. 

I have an ESEE 3 that I have for similar use.  Nice blade, but also one that I've beaten up quite a bit and also have a reputation for being pretty durable.  I just with the steel that they used was more corrosion resistance, but I understand why they selected that steel for that specific blade. 
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on October 28, 2019, 03:09:58 PM
Nice!  There were a couple of TOPS fixed blades that I was looking at.  Those seem super sturdy.  I also remember them from the movie Hunted. 

I have an ESEE 3 that I have for similar use.  Nice blade, but also one that I've beaten up quite a bit and also have a reputation for being pretty durable.  I just with the steel that they used was more corrosion resistance, but I understand why they selected that steel for that specific blade.

maybe I have to look up that movie
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on November 01, 2019, 07:51:54 AM
my third Kershaw Link.  probably my favorite folder of Kershaw.
this one is made with Alabama Damascus.  it really looks nice.
 these are the properties of the Alabama Damascus steel: 

Mike

 The steel is made from the following:

 We use (3) layers of 52100, (4) layers of 5160, (3) layers of 203E, and (3)
 layers of 15N20.

 The steel is forged out and folded 5 times to give you 416 layers.

 The leeks are made from a random pattern. Brad told me that Kershaw is
 about to release a knife made from our ladder pattern steel.


 Thanks
 Lacy
 Alabama Damascus Steel

further explanation of the steel:
5160 spring steel
 203E low carbon high impact High nickel mild steel alloy
 52100 ball bearing steel
 15N20 band saw blade material

so its a carbon steel which will need to keep oiled.  it will only serve office duty, so it won't see hard use, that's what the M390 is for.   ;)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48991910771_b668cd846c_b.jpg)
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48994358972_0fcc0418a5_b.jpg)

top is 420HC steel, M390, Damascus
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48991912731_50318626f5_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on November 01, 2019, 12:07:33 PM
my third Kershaw Link.  probably my favorite folder of Kershaw.
this one is made with Alabama Damascus.  it really looks nice.
 
SNIP
Nice!  I have a Link in M390 and it's been awesome.  Real durable, good test sharpening blade for M390, and more.  Will be interesting how Kershaw's damascus will hold up against corrosion.  The one damascus I have is a custom knife and I was told high carbon, so have to keep oiled. 
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on November 01, 2019, 12:12:20 PM
Emerson Police Update:

The description mentions a "Conventional V-grind".  Well, the primary grind is a V-grind, but the secondary is a chisel grind.  Apparently, most if not all Emersons are like that.  It was interesting that the "main CS" folks at both KnifeCenter and BladeHQ weren't aware of this.  Apparently both have product line specialists though that either are aware or work with the mfrs to coordinate. 

I've read where the chisel points are supposedly easier to sharpen for field expedient sharpening as well as more novice users.  I dunno either way, but I'll be finding out.  I've been eyeing a couple of Emerson flippers, but will test this one quite a bit first before trying others.

I have a CRKT with chisel point, but that one doesn't get used much, and never really sharpened. 
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on November 01, 2019, 12:45:04 PM
Nice!  I have a Link in M390 and it's been awesome.  Real durable, good test sharpening blade for M390, and more.  Will be interesting how Kershaw's damascus will hold up against corrosion.  The one damascus I have is a custom knife and I was told high carbon, so have to keep oiled.

the Kershaw Damascus is also carbon
Damasteel is supposed to be one of the best Damascus made with stainless steel, supposed to have good corrosion resistance
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on December 09, 2019, 08:42:37 AM
could not resist this black Friday deal.  MSRP is 350, was on sale for about half that
its a Kizer Mjolnir, named after Thor's hammer.   https://www.bladehq.com/item--Kizer-TK-Knives-Mj-lnir-Frame-Lock--52416
3.75" of M390, 1.6" thick blade, Ti frame lock.  bearings are super smooth, just the weight of the blade closes it.  its not a super snappy opening, but its very reliable smooth opening.  on my snappy opening gauge I give it a 8/10
doesn't have jimping, instead has a cutout on the top of the blade which I think is more comfortable than jimping.
ergonomics of the blade and handle are very good, seems like it would be very good at slashing or downward cutting.  supposed to be a harpoon blade
edges are all smoothed out, no hard edges on the handle
overall it is a very well put together knife. one of my better Kizers

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49194802672_82256cc49f_b.jpg)
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49194605311_cfe1e193ff_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on December 09, 2019, 08:48:41 AM
could not resist this black Friday deal.  MSRP is 350, was on sale for about half that
its a Kizer Mjolnir, named after Thor's hammer.   https://www.bladehq.com/item--Kizer-TK-Knives-Mj-lnir-Frame-Lock--52416
3.75" of M390, 1.6" thick blade, Ti frame lock.  bearings are super smooth, just the weight of the blade closes it.  its not a super snappy opening, but its very reliable smooth opening.  on my snappy opening gauge I give it a 8/10
doesn't have jimping, instead has a cutout on the top of the blade which I think is more comfortable than jimping.
ergonomics of the blade and handle are very good, seems like it would be very good at slashing or downward cutting.  supposed to be a harpoon blade
edges are all smoothed out, no hard edges
overall it is a very well put together knife. one of my better Kizers

Very nice! I’m a fan of flippers, esp M390 and for that price! I’m tempted to get one too!  I ended up no getting any knives from the Black Fri to Cyber Mon sales. There were plenty that tempted me for sure though. I spent quite a bit on other stuff and had gone a little overboard spending wise the past few months, so put the brakes on. Have to get rid of some knives before adding more. I am tempted to give some away to make room.  :P
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: macsak on December 09, 2019, 09:10:11 AM
Very nice! I’m a fan of flippers, esp M390 and for that price! I’m tempted to get one too!  I ended up no getting any knives from the Black Fri to Cyber Mon sales. There were plenty that tempted me for sure though. I spent quite a bit on other stuff and had gone a little overboard spending wise the past few months, so put the brakes on. Have to get rid of some knives before adding more. I am tempted to give some away to make room.  :P

TFTO
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on December 09, 2019, 10:41:13 AM
TFTO
I’d offer you one or more. Got some $5 Kershaws   ;D
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on January 10, 2020, 07:23:14 AM
maybe my best Kizer. the Vindicator designed by Marshall Noble
designed to be a no nonsense EDC. that's what Marshall Noble said himself after I posted a pic on the Kizer FB page. he said he was glad I like the knife and some other info on it.
I really like it bc it is very functional, light, slim, feels great in my hand, and has a strong detent and a snappy opening, in the pic cant really see the pommel striker on the butt end of the handle but that's some extra function.  looks pretty good too.  really great one from Kizer.  I would rank it up there with any of my ZT's for overall form and function
3.5" of S35VN, 8.375" OAL, 4.66oz weight
https://www.bladehq.com/item--Kizer-Vindicator-Frame-Lock-Knife--85508


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49362234146_7d11f7cd33_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on January 10, 2020, 10:54:52 AM
maybe my best Kizer. the Vindicator designed by Marshall Noble
designed to be a no nonsense EDC. that's what Marshall Noble said himself after I posted a pic on the Kizer FB page. he said he was glad I like the knife and some other info on it.
I really like it bc it is very functional, light, slim, feels great in my hand, and has a strong detent and a snappy opening, in the pic cant really see the pommel striker on the butt end of the handle but that's some extra function.  looks pretty good too.  really great one from Kizer.  I would rank it up there with any of my ZT's for overall form and function
3.5" of S35VN, 8.375" OAL, 4.66oz weight
https://www.bladehq.com/item--Kizer-Vindicator-Frame-Lock-Knife--85508

SNIP
Very nice! S35VN and flipper design is  :thumbsup: 

Have been taking a break from blades.  Well, mostly because I have been spending so much on gun stuff, and those darn pesky Christmas presents.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on January 13, 2020, 12:38:19 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bP4Ce96bza4

best M390 blades for under $150
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on January 14, 2020, 10:19:20 AM
https://www.knifecenter.com/brand/101/kershaw-knives/new

new Kershaw's for 2020.  a few good ones:  Link in CPM20CV, Bareknuckle in CPM20CV (but I don't recommend this one bc it can be difficult to open bc of its design), and they have a balisong in Sandvik 14C28N

new ZT
https://www.knifecenter.com/item/ZT0308/zero-tolerance-0308-flipper-knife-cpm-20cv-stonewashed-blade-coyote-tan-g10-and-titanium-handles
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: macsak on January 14, 2020, 11:23:13 AM
https://www.knifecenter.com/brand/101/kershaw-knives/new

new Kershaw's for 2020.  a few good ones:  Link in CPM20CV, Bareknuckle in CPM20CV (but I don't recommend this one bc it can be difficult to open bc of its design), and they have a balisong in Sandvik 14C28N

new ZT
https://www.knifecenter.com/item/ZT0308/zero-tolerance-0308-flipper-knife-cpm-20cv-stonewashed-blade-coyote-tan-g10-and-titanium-handles

was just looking at that new link
could you compare the M390 steel to the CPM20CV for me, please?
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on January 14, 2020, 11:27:43 AM
was just looking at that new link
could you compare the M390 steel to the CPM20CV for me, please?


https://knifeinformer.com/discovering-the-best-knife-steel/
from what I read, they are about the same.  M390 may be slightly tougher, 20CV may have slightly better edge retention, but personally I cant tell the difference. both are great steel, cant go wrong with either one
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: changemyoil66 on January 14, 2020, 11:27:52 AM
A buddy of mine has an interest in making his own knives.  Does anyone know what the estimate ballpark start up cost is?  Assume all used equipment.  I told him to watch forged in fire.  Most guys start out with hand me downs or used equipment in their open garage or back yard.

So probably the following
Anvil
hammer press
hand tools
furnace
belt sander
and any other necessities
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on January 14, 2020, 12:43:03 PM

https://knifeinformer.com/discovering-the-best-knife-steel/
from what I read, they are about the same.  M390 may be slightly tougher, 20CV may have slightly better edge retention, but personally I cant tell the difference. both are great steel, cant go wrong with either one
That’s the same link I sent Macsak. Haha

My preference is M390 (over 20CV) even though the ratings are same. Mostly due to my success with sharpening M390.

Overall I 100% agree can’t go wrong with either. Pricey though.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: macsak on January 14, 2020, 01:05:38 PM
That’s the same link I sent Macsak. Haha

heads
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: macsak on January 14, 2020, 01:16:01 PM

https://knifeinformer.com/discovering-the-best-knife-steel/
from what I read, they are about the same.  M390 may be slightly tougher, 20CV may have slightly better edge retention, but personally I cant tell the difference. both are great steel, cant go wrong with either one

I was google searching the difference and found this quote (sorry no citation)
"20CV is a Latrobes version of Bohlers M390"
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: macsak on January 14, 2020, 01:16:45 PM
anyone use a Mora knife?
recommendations?
or alternative?
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: jaynick on January 14, 2020, 07:16:01 PM
I was google searching the difference and found this quote (sorry no citation)
"20CV is a Latrobes version of Bohlers M390"
[/quote
Com 20cv
Bohler m390
Carpenter cts204p
All basically the same. It's 3 companies trying to achieve the same thing. Kind of like going to a fancy bar and having 3 good bartenders make you the same cocktail. There will be tiny variables in amounts of liquid and technique on shaking it etc. M390 is german imported so it's most expensive.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: jaynick on January 14, 2020, 07:27:26 PM
https://www.knifecenter.com/brand/101/kershaw-knives/new

new Kershaw's for 2020.  a few good ones:  Link in CPM20CV, Bareknuckle in CPM20CV (but I don't recommend this one bc it can be difficult to open bc of its design), and they have a balisong in Sandvik 14C28N

new ZT
https://www.knifecenter.com/item/ZT0308/zero-tolerance-0308-flipper-knife-cpm-20cv-stonewashed-blade-coyote-tan-g10-and-titanium-handles
The 20c v link and d2 camp5 are slick deals. I'm getting the balisong for sure. $120 street!
That zt is kinda overpriced for an in house design. I'll wait for the tigerstripe or c.f. Sprint run if anything.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: jaynick on January 14, 2020, 07:49:16 PM
anyone use a Mora knife?
recommendations?
or alternative?
Mora is awesome. buy multiples. The high value models often go on sale for $8-15 on amazon. I suggest skipping over the 511 model and get a classic,companion,craftline, or 2000. They also make unique stuff like a floating knife with cork handles and my personal favorite, a chisel/knife for diy work.
I'm not a fan of the newer handle design on the kansbol and eldris. The outdoor models over $40 arent worth it imo. $50-60 is ontario rat 3-5 full tang territory.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: macsak on January 14, 2020, 09:00:45 PM
Mora is awesome. buy multiples. The high value models often go on sale for $8-15 on amazon. I suggest skipping over the 511 model and get a classic,companion,craftline, or 2000. They also make unique stuff like a floating knife with cork handles and my personal favorite, a chisel/knife for diy work.
I'm not a fan of the newer handle design on the kansbol and eldris. The outdoor models over $40 arent worth it imo. $50-60 is ontario rat 3-5 full tang territory.

mahalo for the last 3 answers, jaynick
 :shaka:
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on January 14, 2020, 09:11:35 PM
Agree on Moras. I have a bunch for various uses. Decent quality and great pricing. Compact and useful fixed knife.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: macsak on January 14, 2020, 09:32:02 PM
mahalo for the last 3 answers, jaynick
 :shaka:

oh, and my questions were "asking for a friend" since I own no firearms, ammo, reloading components, body armor, nor knives
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: mangosteenqueen on January 22, 2020, 05:26:23 PM
I've been using the Mora classic craftsman 601 for my field work with the university, farm, whatever outdoors and it was quite nice with the exception that I had to wrap the handle with anti-slip tape and buy a more secure sheath for it. It was nice an lightweight, sharp even though I had to keep it oiled because it's carbon steel.
Then I got myself a stainless mora garberg which is a beast, a usable one and I really like it.

Puukkos are very nice. The moras kicked me off to go window shopping for more. I want one made with stacked birch bark handles.

I've moved away from bigger knives like the gerber strongarm because they were cumbersome, heavy, and not good at finer tasks.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on March 27, 2020, 12:53:49 PM
https://www.knifecenter.com/item/ZT0357BW (https://www.knifecenter.com/item/ZT0357BW)

Came in today.  This was on my interest list from when it was released, so when I saw the price drop I couldn't resist. 

First impressions is that lower price range was the goal for this one.  Good steel (CPM-20CV), but the grip and liner locks aren't as stout as my other ZTs.  I don't have any doubts on durability, but just quite like previous ZT offerings.  Which is fine, especially given the price this line is offered at. 
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on March 27, 2020, 01:58:13 PM
https://www.knifecenter.com/item/ZT0357BW (https://www.knifecenter.com/item/ZT0357BW)

Came in today.  This was on my interest list from when it was released, so when I saw the price drop I couldn't resist. 

First impressions is that lower price range was the goal for this one.  Good steel (CPM-20CV), but the grip and liner locks aren't as stout as my other ZTs.  I don't have any doubts on durability, but just quite like previous ZT offerings.  Which is fine, especially given the price this line is offered at.

That is really nice!  :shaka:

I actually got the same one and was delivered today too. What a coincidence!
I got the working finish. Looks like a heavy stonewash.
For the price, it's a great knife. It was between this one and the kershaw link in 20cv. But since I have 2 links already and the 0357 was on sale and I had a gift certificate, I went with the ZT.
It reminds me of the Link with thicker liners and looks like the blade may be slightly thicker too.
For the price I really like it
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on September 15, 2020, 12:32:14 PM
top to bottom:
ZT 0357 - 20 CV
Kershaw Link - 20 CV
Kershaw Link - M390
Kershaw Link - Alabama Damascus


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50141445217_10281e1cb2_b.jpg)

the Link is my favorite model of Kershaw
the ZT 0357 is like a slightly beefier Link. 
all are great EDC.  all about 3.25" blades.  not too big, not too small, perfect   ;)
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: macsak on September 15, 2020, 12:52:04 PM
top to bottom:
ZT 0357 - 20 CV
Kershaw Link - 20 CV
Kershaw Link - M390
Kershaw Link - Alabama Damascus


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50141445217_10281e1cb2_b.jpg)

the Link is my favorite model of Kershaw
the ZT 0357 is like a slightly beefier Link. 
all are great EDC.  all about 3.25" blades.  not too big, not too small, perfect   ;)

I EDC the 20CV
I wish I got the M390 one, looks awesome in black with the flag...
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on September 15, 2020, 01:04:59 PM
I EDC the 20CV
I wish I got the M390 one, looks awesome in black with the flag...

you can still get the M390 and have both!   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on November 30, 2020, 07:48:29 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxyoCF9mgsE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13fJZKl_rm8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T33aTsc6iuw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qniRWZyuUZs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mf46EXSYfR0
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: macsak on November 30, 2020, 08:22:27 AM
you can still get the M390 and have both!   :thumbsup:

there's a dividend in M390 that's on production delay that i might get later

update on my green link:
ordered a black titanium deep carry clip yesterday because paint on the stock one was chipping
my OCD doesn't like that
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on November 30, 2020, 12:45:25 PM
there's a dividend in M390 that's on production delay that i might get later

update on my green link:
ordered a black titanium deep carry clip yesterday because paint on the stock one was chipping
my OCD doesn't like that

I have the cheapo dividend.  nice knife.  should be a lot better with M390


I just ordered a WE knife.  always wanted to try WE brand.  heard good things about the company, they also make the massdrop and ferrumforge knives.  got almost 50% off at knifecenter, so I thought now is the time to try out the WE!   :geekdanc:
this is what i ordered, but in gold titanium under the carbon fiber.  WE 810 Yucha

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0CzWieg-qQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PqOi0XYMr8&t=568s

this is the gold one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7mJBBXnkhg&t=216s
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on November 30, 2020, 12:48:48 PM
there's a dividend in M390 that's on production delay that i might get later

update on my green link:
ordered a black titanium deep carry clip yesterday because paint on the stock one was chipping
my OCD doesn't like that
Awesome!  Looking forward to what you think.  I had been eyeing a couple of WE and Civivi.  I ended up getting a Kizer to try.  It's just ok.  I have way too many folders as it is, so I decided to stop.  Haha
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on November 30, 2020, 12:51:39 PM
Awesome!  Looking forward to what you think.  I had been eyeing a couple of WE and Civivi.  I ended up getting a Kizer to try.  It's just ok.  I have way too many folders as it is, so I decided to stop.  Haha

which Kizer did you get?
I have a few.  some are just ok.  but a few I have are really great
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on November 30, 2020, 12:55:58 PM
which Kizer did you get?
I have a few.  some are just ok.  but a few I have are really great

https://www.bladehq.com/item--Kizer-Mikkel-Willumsen-Barbosa--52448

I mainly bought it to try VG-10 steel, but also to sample Kizer brand.  I mean it seems like a quality knife, just not what my preferences are. 

AND, it's now on sale for way cheaper than I bought mine for.   :-[

 :rofl:
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on November 30, 2020, 01:00:33 PM
https://www.bladehq.com/item--Kizer-Mikkel-Willumsen-Barbosa--52448

I mainly bought it to try VG-10 steel, but also to sample Kizer brand.  I mean it seems like a quality knife, just not what my preferences are. 

AND, it's now on sale for way cheaper than I bought mine for.   :-[

 :rofl:

I have the Kizer Vindicator, Mjolnir, Sheepdog XL, Uprising reverse tanto.  all are very good.  I really like the Vindicator and Mjolnir (M390).  the Vindicator is very functional, well thought out design.  the Mjolnir is super smooth action, big knife.
I guess with Kizer its hit or miss
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on November 30, 2020, 01:03:52 PM
I have the Kizer Vindicator, Mjolnir, Sheepdog XL, Uprising reverse tanto.  all are very good.  I really like the Vindicator and Mjolnir (M390).  the Vindicator is very functional, well thought out design.  the Mjolnir is super smooth action, big knife.
I guess with Kizer its hit or miss
Are you man enough to wield Mjolnir (Thor's hammer, right?)   ;D

Yeah.  I mean I think the Kizer I have is good, but I'm also comparing it to the ZTs, higher end Spyderco, Lion Steel, etc.  So not fair.  I think I would like the one I have more if the opening wasn't as sluggish.  It's also a smaller blade, which isn't my preference, but that doesn't have anything to do with the quality. 
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on November 30, 2020, 01:17:40 PM
Are you man enough to wield Mjolnir (Thor's hammer, right?)   ;D


yeah, i can barely lift it.  no wonder it pulls my pants down when its in my pocket   :D
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on December 08, 2020, 08:21:15 AM
WE Knife, model 810 Yucha
https://www.knifecenter.com/item/WEK810C/we-knife-company-810c-yucha-flipper-knife-cpm-s35vn-stonewashed-blade-gold-titanium-and-carbon-fiber-handles
really well made knife.  all edges are rounded off, spine of blade is rounded off too.  fit and finish are really great. opening is super smooth, not snappy but more of a really smooth opening. S35VN steel.  gold titanium with carbon fiber handles.  its light for a big knife, 3.9" blade.  titanium pocket clip is really nice. blade is compound grind, thicker near the pivot for chopping, not as thick near the belly for slicing, and reinforced tip for piercing. 
its a big knife that's light and on the thinner side but not too thin.  great EDC if you want it on the bigger size.  its looks great too.  i'm really impressed with the workmanship.  its on par with ZT, and the prices of WE are not cheap. attention to detail is what is apparent in the knife, good reviews on most of the WE knives


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50695074113_d0ecaf07c7_b.jpg)
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Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on December 08, 2020, 08:43:07 AM
WE Knife, model 810 Yucha
https://www.knifecenter.com/item/WEK810C/we-knife-company-810c-yucha-flipper-knife-cpm-s35vn-stonewashed-blade-gold-titanium-and-carbon-fiber-handles
really well made knife.  all edges are rounded off, spine of blade is rounded off too.  fit and finish are really great. opening is super smooth, not snappy but more of a really smooth opening. S35VN steel.  gold titanium with carbon fiber handles.  its light for a big knife, 3.9" blade.  titanium pocket clip is really nice. blade is compound grind, thicker near the pivot for chopping, not as thick near the belly for slicing, and reinforced tip for piercing. 
its a big knife that's light and on the thinner side but not too thin.  great EDC if you want it on the bigger size.  its looks great too.  i'm really impressed with the workmanship.  its on par with ZT, and the prices of WE are not cheap. attention to detail is what is apparent in the knife, good reviews on most of the WE knives
Nice!  Like that harpoon blade profile. 

Once you get around to carrying/using, I'm interested in your feedback on the pocket clip.  That was one aspect that seemed to be a love/hate things with WE knives.  I thought I wasn't that particular on that, but I have this one LionSteel knife with the retractable pocket clip.  While it's well made, it's a PITA, but mostly because I'm just not used to it. 

On a side note, I've gotten one of my best friends into knives.  He bought a Spyderco maybe a year ago and was getting used to carrying.  Now, he's on Blade HQ, Knifecenter, etc shopping often.  Of course, I'll send him links to sales that I find.   ;D
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on December 08, 2020, 09:56:58 AM
Nice!  Like that harpoon blade profile. 

Once you get around to carrying/using, I'm interested in your feedback on the pocket clip.  That was one aspect that seemed to be a love/hate things with WE knives.  I thought I wasn't that particular on that, but I have this one LionSteel knife with the retractable pocket clip.  While it's well made, it's a PITA, but mostly because I'm just not used to it. 

On a side note, I've gotten one of my best friends into knives.  He bought a Spyderco maybe a year ago and was getting used to carrying.  Now, he's on Blade HQ, Knifecenter, etc shopping often.  Of course, I'll send him links to sales that I find.   ;D

i'm a little particular with the pocket clip.  I have one knife with the titanium clip with a small ball on the clip where it contacts the handle.  that makes it difficult to clip to the pocket and difficult to draw from the pocket bc its too much retention.
the clip on the WE 810 does not have the ball but is more notchy than say a ZT or Kershaw regular clip.  I prefer this deep pocket clip from MXGgear that I have on some zt's and kershaws.  its deep pocket and smooth to draw and holster into the pocket and large enough to use with thicker pants like jeans, but the clip is on the larger side
I have the WE810 on me today, no problems going into and out of pocket, but my pants I'm wearing is more like a office type pants so thinner.  i'll try on some thicker jeans later and see how it feels
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on December 08, 2020, 10:17:05 AM
and the WE810 came with a free WE/Civivi pocket tool that I have no idea what to use it for.   :D
I see a bottle opener but the rest of the tool must be an ancient Chinese secret.   ;)
i'll post a pic of it later and see if someone can figure it out
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on December 08, 2020, 02:19:33 PM
this is the pocket tool that I got free with the WE knife
i see a bottle opener which i will use most definitely, but anyone know what else it is used for?

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50696959422_9057bed77e_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on December 08, 2020, 02:38:06 PM
this is the pocket tool that I got free with the WE knife
i see a bottle opener which i will use most definitely, but anyone know what else it is used for?

I have a similar took on my keychain.  I use it only as bottle opener and sometimes the flathead screwdriver.  I haven't used the wrenches, but I've seen many videos of their use.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on December 08, 2020, 03:24:19 PM
I have a similar took on my keychain.  I use it only as bottle opener and sometimes the flathead screwdriver.  I haven't used the wrenches, but I've seen many videos of their use.

what are those little holes for?
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on December 08, 2020, 03:34:38 PM
what are those little holes for?
Dunno.  I have a different one.

https://www.amazon.com/keychain-Multi-Tool-Stainless-Universal-Everyday/dp/B07KF9X4F3/ref=sr_1_14?dchild=1&keywords=keychain+bottle+opener&qid=1607477635&sr=8-14
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on December 08, 2020, 04:00:35 PM
Dunno.  I have a different one.

https://www.amazon.com/keychain-Multi-Tool-Stainless-Universal-Everyday/dp/B07KF9X4F3/ref=sr_1_14?dchild=1&keywords=keychain+bottle+opener&qid=1607477635&sr=8-14

yours looks like a key
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: WTF?Shane on December 08, 2020, 04:11:31 PM
what are those little holes for?

Probably for nuts and for bits.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on December 08, 2020, 04:53:18 PM
Probably for nuts and for bits.

ok.  i'll find some use for it.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on December 08, 2020, 05:07:34 PM
ok.  i'll find some use for it.
Don't "try" too hard.   :o

 :rofl:
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: macsak on December 08, 2020, 05:18:56 PM
Probably for nuts and for bits.

nuts and bits
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: WTF?Shane on December 08, 2020, 09:03:54 PM
nuts and bits

heads
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on February 13, 2021, 10:10:58 AM
I always wanted a Shirogorov blade

https://youtu.be/RRwXsjLnKNg
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: oldfart on February 13, 2021, 11:12:34 AM
My daughter will be getting this for her birthday tomorrow. Gotta go wrap it up now.

(https://i.postimg.cc/bv5rnPCQ/PHOTO-20210213-110420.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on February 13, 2021, 01:20:20 PM
My daughter will be getting this for her birthday tomorrow. Gotta go wrap it up now.

(https://i.postimg.cc/bv5rnPCQ/PHOTO-20210213-110420.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

Hey, I know Tom. Great blades!  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: oldfart on February 13, 2021, 01:29:54 PM
Hey, I know Tom. Great blades!  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
....
Yeah, great knife maker to be sure.

Kind of makes me feel sorry for her boyfriend. If he wrongs her, he might end up looking like a spiral sliced ham.
 :shake:
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on February 13, 2021, 04:33:42 PM
....
Yeah, great knife maker to be sure.

Kind of makes me feel sorry for her boyfriend. If he wrongs her, he might end up looking like a spiral sliced ham.
 :shake:

Mr. Mayo's blades are not cheap either.  they are great stuff.  i've seen his knives featured in Blade magazine multiple times.  a great gun guy too.
congrats to your daughter on the excellent knife   :shaka:
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: oldfart on February 13, 2021, 09:17:10 PM
Mr. Mayo's blades are not cheap either.  they are great stuff.  i've seen his knives featured in Blade magazine multiple times.  a great gun guy too.
congrats to your daughter on the excellent knife   :shaka:
...
Try google a Mayo knife like that. The retail on something similar is rather shocking....more than 1G.
But there is spiritual backstory on that knife.

About 30 years ago my shooting buddy asked Tom to build a custom hunting knife to his specs.
Tom built that knife and it was used on Lanai and Africa hunting trips. Ie, that knife has experience.
A couple years ago my buddy passed away unexpectedly.
That knife was a part of his estate, but I helped the executor sort out and liquidate some stuff so we became friends.

About a month ago I asked my daughter what she wanted for her birthday. She asked me for a hunting knife.
You don't hear that kind of request every day, especially from a 20 yr old girl.
The reason behind that is that she is an aspiring  chef. She's currently enrolled in the culinary arts program in college.

Her cousin (my niece) is married to a boy from Molokai. Apparently they are planning to go to Molokai to hunt. At that time she will learn to dress a deer.
Therefore she needed a good hunting knife. I asked the executor of the estate about the knife and told him the situation. It was a no-brainer.

I like to imagine my late shooting buddy looking down at this story unfolding and smiling with approval.
How great is it that his hunting knife will once again see some action?

I haven't seen Mayo in about a year, but I know he will be happy to see his work being passed along to the next generation.

Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: aieahound on February 14, 2021, 01:07:58 PM
Got’s Damn, that’s a beautiful knife.

And thanks for sharing the story O.F.
We need more of those.  :shaka:
The way it should be.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on May 25, 2021, 02:44:03 PM
got this from amazon yesterday in the mail
CJRB Crag flipper.  3.43" of D2 steel, sheepsfoot blade. price is about $35
i think for $35 it is a steal.  the opening is very smooth, the detent is pretty strong and rides on ceramic bearings, so makes for a snappy opening
CJRB is the budget line of Artisan Cutlery.  Chinese knife company, they make quality knives.  much like WE knife and CIVIVI.  but i think the detents on the Artisan blades are a stronger detent.  not sure bc i only have the one CJRB but thats what i see on the comments online.
anyway, am real pleased with this budget buy.  i really like the carbon fiber, its a good size knife, not too small and not too big.  good for an office blade, or light use.  i like the D2 for a budget hard use steel, takes extra care but i dont mind


(https://pics.knifecenter.com/knifecenter/cjrb/images/CJBJ1904CF_1.jpg)
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on May 25, 2021, 07:15:31 PM
got this from amazon yesterday in the mail
CJRB Crag flipper.  3.43" of D2 steel, sheepsfoot blade. price is about $35
i think for $35 it is a steal.  the opening is very smooth, the detent is pretty strong and rides on ceramic bearings, so makes for a snappy opening
CJRB is the budget line of Artisan Cutlery.  Chinese knife company, they make quality knives.  much like WE knife and CIVIVI.  but i think the detents on the Artisan blades are a stronger detent.  not sure bc i only have the one CJRB but thats what i see on the comments online.
anyway, am real pleased with this budget buy.  i really like the carbon fiber, its a good size knife, not too small and not too big.  good for an office blade, or light use.  i like the D2 for a budget hard use steel, takes extra care but i dont mind

That's an interesting one.  Probably excellent for the majority of the use my knives get, which is cutting open or breaking down boxes.  Haha

I use a D2 that was my dad's almost daily.  It has developed a patina and isn't that corrosion prone.  Not like some of other D2 blades where I could leave a fingerprint and it would show corrosion after a day.  I've read that D2 can be a challenge to sharpen, but I've found that this one knife (a Benchmade) is fairly easy to sharpen. 
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on June 16, 2021, 12:33:38 PM
new Hinderer knives at blade show 2021

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOxgxApwd-4
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on October 29, 2021, 09:43:11 AM
a few new ones from CJRB which is the budget brand of Artisan
all 3 of these are really well made for a budget knife.  bottom 2 knives steel is AR-RPM9, which is like a 9cr, but i find it to retain the edge better than a 9cr.  top one is D2
all have a strong detent and a really smooth ceramic ball bearing pivot.  the top and bottom ones have the fastest opening.  the middle one is very good too, just the bigger blade i think makes the opening not as fast but still very good.  i would say the opening and detents are as good or at least nearly as good as any ZT knife
top and bottom ones were $37, middle one was $56.  for that price, you are getting a bargain.  they are well made.  steel is not the best but its not the worst either.  for  light use knife these are well worth the money



https://www.knifecenter.com/item/CJBJ1904CF/cjrb-cutlery-crag-flipper-knife-d2-stonewashed-modified-sheepsfoot-blade-carbon-fiber-handles
https://www.knifecenter.com/item/CJBJ1919WH/cjrb-cutlery-tigris-flipper-knife-35-ar-rpm9-stonewashed-cleaver-blade-white-and-black-g10-handles
https://www.knifecenter.com/item/CJBJ1906BKC/cjrb-cutlery-gobi-flipper-knife-ar-rpm9-stonewashed-trailing-point-blade-black-g10-handles-w-orange-backspacer

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Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on March 28, 2022, 09:13:05 AM
got a couple TwoSun knifes recently
really impressed with the ones I got.
top one is TS81CF in M390, 3.75" blade.  KVT bearing pivot, CF inlays machined for grip.  i really like how the inlay on the lockbar side covers up the lockbar so you can't mistakenly put pressure on the lockbar and make it more difficult to open, a nice touch.  handles are machined for better gripping and weight reduction, full jimping on the length of the handle, machining on on the pocket clip.  detent is perfect, has a snappy opening.  I would compare this knife to most of my ZT's, it is super well made and well thought out design.  for the money you cannot go wrong with this knife.  If you can find one, I would buy it

bottom one is TS224 in S90V , 3.5" blade.  KVT bearings, CF inlay.  opening isn't as snappy as the other one, but is super smooth.  machined handles and pocket clip, contoured handles.  blade reminds me of the Hinderer Spanto blade.  half spear point, half tanto.  very well made knife.  but i like the other one just a bit more

both are great knives for the price.  i got each one for $139.  thats cheap for M390 and S90V.
TwoSun knives are hard to find. you either gotta go on ebay or amazon, or order from China.  but these 2 knives I highly recommend, the TS81CF is a little better in my opinion


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Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on March 28, 2022, 09:52:51 AM
got a couple TwoSun knifes recently
really impressed with the ones I got.
top one is TS81CF in M390, 3.75" blade.  KVT bearing pivot, CF inlays machined for grip.  i really like how the inlay on the lockbar side covers up the lockbar so you can't mistakenly put pressure on the lockbar and make it more difficult to open, a nice touch.  handles are machined for better gripping and weight reduction, full jimping on the length of the handle, machining on on the pocket clip.  detent is perfect, has a snappy opening.  I would compare this knife to most of my ZT's, it is super well made and well thought out design.  for the money you cannot go wrong with this knife.  If you can find one, I would buy it

bottom one is TS224 in S90V , 3.5" blade.  KVT bearings, CF inlay.  opening isn't as snappy as the other one, but is super smooth.  machined handles and pocket clip, contoured handles.  blade reminds me of the Hinderer Spanto blade.  half spear point, half tanto.  very well made knife.  but i like the other one just a bit more

both are great knives for the price.  i got each one for $139.  thats cheap for M390 and S90V.
TwoSun knives are hard to find. you either gotta go on ebay or amazon, or order from China.  but these 2 knives I highly recommend, the TS81CF is a little better in my opinion

SNIP
Nice!  How much was the TS81CF?  Always looking for M390 blades. 

Did a little research and seems like Australian brand and market. 
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on March 28, 2022, 10:24:46 AM
Nice!  How much was the TS81CF?  Always looking for M390 blades. 

Did a little research and seems like Australian brand and market.

was also 139. 
it was 149, but ebay seller sent me a email and offered $10 off, and that was an offer I could not refuse   :D
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on March 28, 2022, 10:33:56 AM
another seller thats sells TwoSun, but most models out of stock.  you could do a notify me when in stock and wait.  i have a couple models I'm waiting for
but this seller's prices are pretty good
https://whitemountainknives.com/twosun-ts81-frame-lock-knife-titanium-cf-handle-plain-s90v-blade-ts81-s90v/
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on March 28, 2022, 10:51:44 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-FF9PlamDA&t=525s
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on March 28, 2022, 10:54:35 AM
another seller thats sells TwoSun, but most models out of stock.  you could do a notify me when in stock and wait.  i have a couple models I'm waiting for
but this seller's prices are pretty good
https://whitemountainknives.com/twosun-ts81-frame-lock-knife-titanium-cf-handle-plain-s90v-blade-ts81-s90v/
Awesome!  Thanks!  I signed up for notification.  That's a great price for an M390 blade.  Definitely worth a try. 
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on March 28, 2022, 11:03:54 AM
Awesome!  Thanks!  I signed up for notification.  That's a great price for an M390 blade.  Definitely worth a try.

I think if you order from the website white mountain knives, there is a discount code "LTK" from the youtube channel Luv them Knives.  good for 10% off.  they also have a ebay site, but same stuff as on their website




10% Discount Code on WMK is: LTK
TwoSun Knives are available on White Mountain Knives:https://whitemountainknives.com/searc...

Link to Ebay sellers
TwoSunknives: https://www.ebay.com/usr/twosunknives...

d-win99: https://www.ebay.com/usr/d-win99?_trk...

TwoSun Knives Fans Facebook:https://m.facebook.com/groups/1296010...

but on ebay the seller d-win99 does ship to hawaii or alaska
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on March 30, 2022, 07:09:42 AM
all of these are out of my price range, but nice to dream.  if you are going to dream, dream big
wow. $1k D2 knife!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKdM_EBcfE8
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on March 30, 2022, 07:18:57 AM
Awesome!  Thanks!  I signed up for notification.  That's a great price for an M390 blade.  Definitely worth a try.

https://www.amazon.com/TWOSUN-Tactical-Hunting-Folding-Titanium/dp/B0922F8LV8/ref=sr_1_22?crid=Q17APQ5U9WK3&keywords=twosun+knife&qid=1648660502&sprefix=twosun+%2Caps%2C252&sr=8-22

this is more than what i paid, but this is an average price for it from what i see. even if you order from China i think this around the going rate.  unless you get from white mountain knives, thats really a good price
it is a really great knife
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on March 30, 2022, 08:26:29 AM
some good affordable knives in this vid.  and other good ones that are not so cheap


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiLQ6Z41jYg
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on March 30, 2022, 12:57:30 PM
this guy has some high end knives.  seems like he prefers the thumb stud opening
the Japan made knife has a HRC of 66, which is really high


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60xPXhOOmS0
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on April 01, 2022, 10:12:13 AM
also included are some tips on sharpening S90V.  I assume that would include other hard to sharpen steels

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aW_e1FTXB7A
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on April 06, 2022, 01:49:50 PM
Nice!  How much was the TS81CF?  Always looking for M390 blades. 

Did a little research and seems like Australian brand and market.

https://whitemountainknives.com/twosun-ts81-frame-lock-knife-titanium-cf-handle-plain-s90v-blade-ts81-s90v/

looks like it's in stock


I got impatient and ordered something from amazon, but if I were patient I could have saved a lot of money if i ordered from white mountain.  stupid me.   :grrr:
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on April 06, 2022, 01:52:38 PM
https://whitemountainknives.com/twosun-ts81-frame-lock-knife-titanium-cf-handle-plain-s90v-blade-ts81-s90v/

looks like it's in stock


I got impatient and ordered something from amazon, but if I were patient I could have saved a lot of money if i ordered from white mountain.  stupid me.   :grrr:
Thanks!  I signed up for the notification and I came close to ordering one. Then I remembered all of the ammo and reloading components I ordered recently. . .  :(
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: macsak on April 06, 2022, 02:56:56 PM
Thanks!  I signed up for the notification and I came close to ordering one. Then I remembered all of the ammo and reloading components I ordered recently. . .  :(

heads
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on April 06, 2022, 03:09:34 PM
heads
I should be ordering more of those 9 mm heads as well. . .
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: macsak on April 06, 2022, 10:24:00 PM
I should be ordering more of those 9 mm heads as well. . .

free powda
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on April 11, 2022, 12:52:12 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eMPEh5bBFQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6Zas9l2eYk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKnaz7I2AT0
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on April 15, 2022, 12:51:42 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKy_TOOcOwc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuISW6Uz3BE
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on April 16, 2022, 12:38:26 PM
Top 5 - most used and most often carried

Top to bottom (left to right)
ZT 0566 S35VN
Kershaw Dividend M390
ZT 0562CF 204P
We Kitefin S35VN
ZT 0770CF M390

Have been carrying the We a lot lately for work. It’s slimmer and lighter. The ZT 0562 is used to be carried most often. Lots of use and tough steel. Just kinda heavy.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on April 16, 2022, 12:43:15 PM
Top 5 - quality/price

No particular order. Don’t recall all the prices.

LionSteel ROK M390
Spyderco Amalgam S30V
ZT 0652CF
We Kitefin
ZT 0770CF



I also have some nice fixed blades, but not regularly carried.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on April 19, 2022, 12:46:21 PM
Top 5 - quality/price

No particular order. Don’t recall all the prices.

LionSteel ROK M390
Spyderco Amalgam S30V
ZT 0652CF
We Kitefin
ZT 0770CF



I also have some nice fixed blades, but not regularly carried.

I have a WE Yucha which i really like.  harpoon shape blade S35VN.  3.75".  larger knife.  different blade edges on the same blade, chopping edge close to the pivot, piercing and slicing closer to the tip. interesting design
there's a lot of blades I have that I carry now and then.  its hard to decide which ones are better.  they are all good in the jobs they are designed for.  some I just like better than others for whatever reasons: fits better in my hand, fits better in certain pants I'm wearing.  conceals better, or draws better, etc

also i have 1 Reate.  the Hills model which is their cheapest at $180.  it is a great Chinese knife.  action is awesome.  fit and finish is near perfect, if not perfect.  S35VN steel.  it is very equal to my ZT's
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: macsak on April 19, 2022, 03:23:27 PM
Top 5 - most used and most often carried

Top to bottom (left to right)
ZT 0566 S35VN
Kershaw Dividend M390
ZT 0562CF 204P
We Kitefin S35VN
ZT 0770CF M390

Have been carrying the We a lot lately for work. It’s slimmer and lighter. The ZT 0562 is used to be carried most often. Lots of use and tough steel. Just kinda heavy.

i still want a M390 Dividend
for a friend...
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on April 19, 2022, 03:42:00 PM
i still want a M390 Dividend
for a friend...
Haven't seem them in stock for a while.  I see the Link in stock here and there.   8)
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on April 25, 2022, 01:14:37 PM
got this in the mail last week Ganzo FH922.  for $27.99 on amazon, this is a great knife!
best thing about it is the detent and the opening action.  both are really, really great.
it's D2 steel.  I don't mind D2 steel.  I'd rather have S35VN, or M390, but for less that 30 bucks you won't find M390 or S35VN.  so for the price I can live with D2, just gotta keep it clean
it's a no frills knife.  and sometimes that's all you really need
if you are looking for a budget knife, these Ganzo knives are hard to beat

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sleNUdgjEu0&t=918s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umkHzZuMpgs&t=1s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlGS2BVzoHM
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on May 06, 2022, 12:54:13 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2RfCaHnCE8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3C2Rmt4baeo
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on May 10, 2022, 12:39:38 PM
I got one of these on order from Amazon, but it's coming from China so it might be 4-8 weeks delivery
3.27 inches of M390 steel.  Jelly Jerry design.  I like his designs and also Wong designs.  I have a couple of each and they are great
I like this blade shape. Jelly's blades are usually a medium size.  Wong is usually a large size.  I like Jelly's knives for a office knife.  Wong's knives I could also use at the office but also use for a defensive knife if needed
I like Neeves knives youtube channel.  he does a great in depth review of knives. blade shape, ergos, action, detent, etc  I learn something when I watch his videos

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNF8MFF-S7U
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on May 10, 2022, 12:49:17 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJqiLPXriUw
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on September 12, 2022, 07:44:10 AM
ZT0308
https://zt.kaiusa.com/0308.html

I've wanted this ever since it came out a couple years ago, but price was too steep for me
recently price came down a bit and I had a gift card, so that eased the pain on my wallet a bit
this is a BEAST of a knife!
20CV steel, 3.75" blade, wide grip but not too thick but just right for a large knife.
grip is G10 on one side, titanium on the other, frame lock, manual flipper
the opening of the knife is perfect.  detent is strong but not too strong, KVT bearings are smooth, very snappy opening with a loud "Thwack" when it locks up.  very satisfying
it feels large in my hand but not too large.
one of my best ZT's and one of my best knives overall.  I would rank it up there with my 0393 Hinderer and my 0909  and 0920
this was my most expensive ZT and knife, but well worth it!   :thumbsup: :thumbsup:


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comparison to my 0909 which is also a large folder
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Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: macsak on December 19, 2022, 10:45:46 AM
i guess i should have searched for "knives"
no focus..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZmLm5rrBoA
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: macsak on December 19, 2022, 07:15:34 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8oGQ9ufPF4
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: macsak on December 19, 2022, 08:34:22 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZ4vxSsOpic
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: macsak on December 19, 2022, 09:08:15 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6YZt0d-WdI
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: macsak on December 20, 2022, 02:12:03 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1f0O8CAoOLo
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: macsak on December 21, 2022, 08:01:03 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQ6Jm2GmRCw
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: macsak on December 22, 2022, 01:29:10 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frztlKGgX-s
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: macsak on December 22, 2022, 01:31:26 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QnEjfs3DmA
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: macsak on December 25, 2022, 09:33:19 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhfFrGXxm2U
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on December 27, 2022, 09:56:44 AM
Oknife by Olight made by Kizer
I had a gift card from Amazon so I bought the Zilla, of course   :shaka:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTnOcYbolP4
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on December 27, 2022, 01:17:08 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83fxUF8PBCU
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on December 28, 2022, 10:36:02 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZuoC_bV0eI
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on December 30, 2022, 01:13:42 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=744F9bAFxok

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uGj21zJEnE
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on December 31, 2022, 10:10:10 PM
Oknife by Olight made by Kizer
I had a gift card from Amazon so I bought the Zilla, of course   :shaka:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTnOcYbolP4

Got the Zilla in the mail today, and wow!!! This knife is well worth the money
at $85 it is a bargain
154 CM steel, large modified sheepsfoot blade it is a very useful tool. The detent is perfect, on the stronger side so if you like a strong detent for a snappy deployment, this knife is going to impress you. It is as good opening as any of my ZT's

The detent and the opening is one of my priorities in folding knives. This is a make it or break it to me. I'll take a lesser steel like 154CM or 14Sandvik or S30V, but a weak detent is where I draw the line. I wont accept a weak detent and weak-ass opening

I am really impressed with this knife. I'm going to order another Oknife bc this one is so good  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Great presentation too
Comes with a great soft case just like a Kizer knife pouch bc it's made by Kizer, challenge coin, in a nice box. Bonus points  :shaka:
Title: New Knife Company Working with Some of the Best Custom Makers
Post by: macsak on January 06, 2023, 12:45:05 PM
https://eikonicknifeco.com/collections/all

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSh3ayGu1iI
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: Brystont1 on January 13, 2023, 02:54:06 PM
Got the Zilla in the mail today, and wow!!! This knife is well worth the money
at $85 it is a bargain
154 CM steel, large modified sheepsfoot blade it is a very useful tool. The detent is perfect, on the stronger side so if you like a strong detent for a snappy deployment, this knife is going to impress you. It is as good opening as any of my ZT's

The detent and the opening is one of my priorities in folding knives. This is a make it or break it to me. I'll take a lesser steel like 154CM or 14Sandvik or S30V, but a weak detent is where I draw the line. I wont accept a weak detent and weak-ass opening

I am really impressed with this knife. I'm going to order another Oknife bc this one is so good  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Great presentation too
Comes with a great soft case just like a Kizer knife pouch bc it's made by Kizer, challenge coin, in a nice box. Bonus points  :shaka:

S30v is a “lesser steel”? I’m just getting into the world of knives and I was looking at getting a buck 110 folder with a S30V blade cuz I thought S30V was good lol. Was also looking at getting a Benchmade Bushcrafter that has the same blade material. What makes it a lesser steel in your opinion?
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: macsak on January 13, 2023, 03:01:20 PM
szilla = blade steel snob
 :rofl:

S30v is a “lesser steel”? I’m just getting into the world of knives and I was looking at getting a buck 110 folder with a S30V blade cuz I thought S30V was good lol. Was also looking at getting a Benchmade Bushcrafter that has the same blade material. What makes it a lesser steel in your opinion?
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on January 13, 2023, 03:09:52 PM
S35VN, and S30V as well are my among my favorite steels for knives.  My preference is M390, but it's harder to find these days and when you do, it's pricey.  That said, I don't feel that I am losing anything with S35VN over M390. 
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: macsak on January 13, 2023, 03:17:32 PM
drck = blade steel snob
 :rofl:

S35VN, and S30V as well are my among my favorite steels for knives.  My preference is M390, but it's harder to find these days and when you do, it's pricey.  That said, I don't feel that I am losing anything with S35VN over M390.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: Brystont1 on January 13, 2023, 07:55:35 PM
S35VN, and S30V as well are my among my favorite steels for knives.  My preference is M390, but it's harder to find these days and when you do, it's pricey.  That said, I don't feel that I am losing anything with S35VN over M390.

Do you find S30V hard to sharpen? What are your guys favorite sharpening stones? I was thinking of picking up one of those resin ceramic stones from spyderco.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: macsak on January 15, 2023, 09:30:26 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAO-Nq-MyNk
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: drck1000 on January 15, 2023, 09:48:15 PM
Do you find S30V hard to sharpen? What are your guys favorite sharpening stones? I was thinking of picking up one of those resin ceramic stones from spyderco.
No, at least not with the Wicked Sharp system. Many of the supersteels have a rep for being tough to sharpen. It may take a bit more time than the higher carbon steels, but they hold the edge longer.

If using a fixed angle system like the Spyderco Sharpmaker, it will take a while to match the angle. I used to use whetstones for folding knives,  but I got way better results from the sharpeners that you can fix the angle to the particular blade grind. I use whetstones only for kitchen knives now.
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: macsak on January 16, 2023, 08:46:29 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOXF3SID5xs
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: macsak on January 20, 2023, 05:25:57 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMTOhhNilbk
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on April 28, 2023, 08:10:33 AM
https://www.knifecenter.com/item/KUV4568N1/kizer-cutlery-vanguard-nalu-z-82-flipper-knife-n690-black-clip-point-tanto-blade-milled-black-g10-handles
got this Kizer Z-82 the other day in the mail.
its N690 steel, Tanto blade, black G10 scales, made by Kizer and designed by custom maker  Nalu Boersma of Hawaii
I thought it was cool that the designer is from Hawaii
it is very well built, design and ergos are great, but the best thing is the action.  it is super snappy deployment, detent is perfect to me, a little on the strong side but that's how I like it.  no matter how I try, I cannot fail the opening.  it always just fires right out
Great knife for $65

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6mkNix2YkE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5nyeC9Km_M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfcdpKupskg
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: macsak on April 28, 2023, 08:30:30 AM
that's a deal for $65..
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on April 28, 2023, 08:53:48 AM
I'm getting into these mid-tier steels like N690, Sandvik 14c28n, VG10, 154cm, and going to try the NitroV soon
I like that while they aren't as good as say a S35VN or M390 at edge retention, those mid-tier steel above are very good at corrosion resistance and easy to sharpen, and able to get a razor sharp edge
not buying any more D2 bc not good at corrosion resistance and hard to sharpen
for my use, these steels are great bc I don't need super high edge retention, but I do want it to be corrosion resistant and easy to sharpen, so the ones listed above work great for me. most my uses are for office use/ light duty but I do use them daily to cut cardboard and plastic straps quite often
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on April 28, 2023, 09:20:49 AM
that's a deal for $65..

yeah, Kizer and Civivi have been upping their game lately with their budget knives
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on May 01, 2023, 04:24:05 PM
I got this Ferrum Forge Stinger last week.  I think WE knives makes the parts, Ferrum Forge designs and assembles it.  they do different collaborations with different knife manufacturers, but this one is with WE knives
its a 3.2" Nitro V blade, overall length is 7.3", liner lock with G10 scales
it's on the smaller overall size, but not too small.  I can still get 4 fingers on the grip with my medium sized hands.  it's light too, very light.  in my pocket I forget its there bc it's so light
the action and detent is excellent.  strong detent, I cannot fail the opening even if I try.  but its not too strong, not problems deploying the blade
this will make a great office or light duty knife, which is my intent

https://www.knifecenter.com/item/FF005G/ferrum-forge-stinger-flipper-nitro-v-stonewashed-drop-point-blade-od-green-g10-handles

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9FWqfUdxoY
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on May 01, 2023, 04:48:50 PM
this is what I look for in a folding knife:
blade steel: I prefer something like 154CM, 14C28N, N690, VG10, NitroV.  I like these bc of their ease of sharpening, corrosion resistance, and they have decent edge retention and toughness
                   or I also like M390, S90V, CPM20CV, CPM154, S35VN. S30V.  I like these bc of their edge retention and toughness, corrosion resistance, although these are more difficult to sharpen
opening action:  I prefer a flipper tab.  I don't like the new button locks or axis locks bc the opening isn't as snappy as a liner lock or frame lock.  I don't like opening with a thumb flick or finger flick bc usually that means the detent isn't that strong and I just don't like opening it that way
locking mechanism:  I prefer liner lock or frame lock.  I like it when the frame lock has an inlay that covers the lock bc you can't fail the opening by having your fingers on the lock.  but some don't have a inlay and they work fine.  I have a couple that I have to be careful how I hold it when opening
blade shape:  drop point, spear point, clip point, tanto, sheepsfoot.  I like these bc they are a useful and functional shape for EDC
blade size: 3.25"-3.75" is ideal for me
handle material:  titanium, G10, Micarta, carbon fiber.  really doesn't matter too much if it's done right
I really like a snappy opening action with a manual flipper.  detent on the strong side, but not too strong, enough so I cannot fail the opening even if I try but not too much so it takes more effort to open, I like it in this sweet spot.  I like ceramic bearing for a drop shut closing, although ZT has steel KVT bearing system that works really well
pocket clip: one that is easy to draw and easy to put back in pocket and big enough to sit in a thicker pocket like jeans or thicker pants
lanyard : I like the option of using a lanyard, although it's not a deal breaker to me

that's all I can think of right now.  I'll update if I think of anything else
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on May 03, 2023, 09:20:23 AM
the beginning of the vid he slices through paper towel.  now that is sharp!!!  :thumbsup:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ezYHQnu0Hk&t=756s
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on May 03, 2023, 11:39:59 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diOVVaOJX2Q
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on May 06, 2023, 01:33:09 PM
https://youtu.be/z0YGrm7ggsk
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on May 22, 2023, 12:56:55 PM
my best and most favorite knife and flashlight combo

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Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on June 13, 2023, 09:09:37 AM
my WE Knife collection
top to bottom are: Quixotic (20CV), Yucha (S35VN), Snick (20CV)
all have great opening action, all are well designed, WE makes some good knives, Civivi is their budget line and those are good too
I just got the Quixotic recently. this is the best one of the 3 that I have. the fit and finish is flawless, contoured edges, milled titanium pocket clip works great, matching blue anodized screws all around, flipper tab is minimal and works great. I am super impressed with this knife. it rivals my best ZT. it will make a great office/work knife for me,
and I ordered the Quixotic from White Mountain Knives and they gave me this cleaning mat as a bonus. that's a nice touch, probably bc I've ordered several knives from them


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Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on September 26, 2023, 09:43:27 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jk1LSTSlc1A
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on September 27, 2023, 09:12:28 AM
WE and Civivi are coming out with some great knives lately

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSy9FUbV8uU&t=7s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=io8PVvvpqkw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaabhuwMGB0
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on October 22, 2023, 06:56:58 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzEsV2rVbGs
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on November 13, 2023, 12:54:05 PM
just ordered this WE knife. the Nefaris. my most expensive knife so far. (second most expensive if you count the upgrades I did on one of my ZT's)
I got the one with polished bead blasted blade and titanium handle with aluminum foil carbon fiber inlay. (it's not made of aluminum foil, that's the design of the carbon fiber)
limited edition.  they are making 155 of this knife in this configuration.  there are 6 different configurations. one of which will have Heimskringla Damasteel blade.  the rest have 20CV steel which isn't bad either
can't wait to get my hands on this bad boy. comes with certificate of authenticity. as in the top vid
super excited for this one!  :geekdanc: :geekdanc: :geekdanc:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pav2S_ldsg8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqjHpkjfpSw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjsNYG8JNo8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHz2tD7ELJs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTFZUO2vRMs
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: zippz on November 13, 2023, 06:42:21 PM
Ordered one of these that was on sale for $42 shipped.  Supposed to be a good knife for the price.  Going to use it for my search and rescue gear.

Gerber Prodigy Combat Knife Black Fixed Blade (4.75" Black Serr)
(https://www.bladehq.com/imgs/fixed-blade-knives/gerber-fixed/gerber-prodigy-survival-combat-knife-22-01121.jpg)
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on November 19, 2023, 07:27:56 AM
got this yesterday. WE Nefaris 
https://www.knifecenter.com/item/WEK22040F2/we-knife-company-limited-edition-nefaris-frame-lock-flipper-knife-cpm-20cv-polished-bead-blasted-clip-point-blade-gray-titanium-handles-with-aluminum-foil-carbon-fiber-inlay
20CV steel, titanium frame lock, carbon fiber inlay. the fit and finish is superb. milled titanium frame, contoured edges. it fires out of the hole like lightning, impossible to fail the opening. milled titanium pocket clip that works great. certificate of authenticity. WE storage pouch. WE also gave me a roll up knife bag for free. 3 other times they gave me free stuff too. I really appreciate that about WE knives
mine is serial number #017 out of a total of 155 that they made in this configuration. it sold out in 1 day. I'm happy I got one. my best knife that I own. best knife that I ever handled myself. I am super impressed with this knife. worth every penny   :geekdanc: :geekdanc:




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Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: macsak on November 25, 2023, 07:13:40 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W67cfVefgBM
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: macsak on November 26, 2023, 02:29:19 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCG_4SP5bGA
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: macsak on November 26, 2023, 06:58:20 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpUqfFPm2ug
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on November 29, 2023, 12:59:40 PM
so nice, I had to get 1 mo'   
this one is a 2 tone black/gold  :geekdanc:

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Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: macsak on January 05, 2024, 07:29:02 PM
magnacut leek for $105  :o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKUBmUSWHW0
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on January 08, 2024, 10:27:01 AM
couple of new ones for the new year:
Civivi BullTusk with purple micarta and WE Equivik titanium frame lock with carbon fiber inlays
the Equivik recently won best in show and best imported knife at Blade Show West. both in the factory production knife category. super good opening action
the BullTusk is well made, action is super good too. this one was a bargain at $65
WE and Civivi making some great blades lately. a lot of new ones too 

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Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on January 08, 2024, 10:30:26 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uh9QRJoBTzI
Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on January 26, 2024, 05:26:50 PM
always wanted this Tops Steel Eagle
this is the 11 inch blade version.  this thing is a BEAST!  >:D
1/4 inch thick blade, 1095 steel. Rambo wishes he had this knife. It's like a machete on steroids
I'm going to use it for hard use yard work. can also be used as a larger survival knife.
I'm sure it'll handle anything I throw at it


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Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: stangzilla on February 05, 2024, 09:01:09 AM
stropped my Tops Desert Son knife. 3" 1095 blade
came out nearly mirror polished.  I wasn't really looking to polish the edge but it took quite a few strokes on the strop to get it real sharp. with the 1095 steel and the edge being around 25°, it's not shaving sharp but it's plenty sharp enough for its duties

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Title: Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
Post by: macsak on April 21, 2024, 03:28:01 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77dlbgwnQkM