Show Posts
1
General Discussion / Re: FFL transfers/Gunbroker?
« on: October 18, 2019, 12:39:30 AM »There is no Hawaii "de-registration" required. As long as you have paperwork/emails showing to whom you transferred the weapon, you're covered legally.
Now, what you may not comprehend: giving the weapon to your FFL for shipping is a transfer. The local FFL "owns" the gun at that point. So, your papers would show you transferred to your FFL, and the FFL's paperwork would show they transferred to an out-of-state FFL.
Only the buyer's FFL would have paperwork on the transfer to the buyer. Simple, huh?The concept is to make sure the buyer complies with local, state and federal law before receipt, and their FFL is responsible for that process.
If the firearm is a long gun, you could ship directly to their FFL via USPS or any commercial carrier, saving the extra local FFL cost.
If it's a handgun, you can still mail it directly, but you CAN NOT use USPS -- a local FFL can, though. You'd have to ship via FedEx, UPS, DHL, or other commercial carrier.
Using USPS is a plus, in that any theft, fraud, etc. becomes a federal offense. Not so for commercial carrier transactions.
Having said that, the receiving FFL has a say as well. If they have a policy to only receive out-of-state firearms via another FFL, your choice is to ask the buyer to pick another FFL with a better policy, or ask them to pay the additional (optional) shipping FFL costs. Or, if you made a nice profit, you could eat that yourself.
Bottom line, the law doesn't require you to use a local FFL. That's your choice or the receiving FFL's choice.
LICENSE VERIFICATION:
Require the buyer to HAVE THE FFL send you a copy of their FFL certificate. It needs to be a signed copy. Email and FAX are acceptable. The FFL's address on the license must match the address to which you are shipping the firearm.
When the buyer sends you the FFL info, you can verify the license number here:
https://fflezcheck.atf.gov/fflezcheck/
Links to good info here:
https://www.pewpewtactical.com/how-to-mail-guns/
https://support.gunbroker.com/hc/en-us/articles/221861108-FFL-Verification
https://support.gunbroker.com/hc/en-us/articles/222797807-Federal-and-State-Firearms-Law-Online-Resources
Lots of good info here, thank you! The firearm is a long gun (AR-15), I was worried about the extra process of shipping through a local FFL. But if I can ship it directly to the buyers FFL that would save me time and money. Would I need to dissasemble the firearm before packing it or can I just leave it in one piece? Aside from asking the buyer to have their FFL send me a copy of their certificate via email, would it be wise to ask for a copy of say a license and or a bill that shows proof of who they are (just as a precautionary)? Lastly, what do you think would be the safest way of receiving the payment? If the buyer is reputable based off their history on Gunbroker, I won't be too worried but nowadays you can never be too careful with scams and people finding loopholes to get their money back. I was thinking a USPS money order or PayPal?
, lovely pieces.
Prolly drop by 5.11 and buy some goodies from there before the sale ends.
