Sure you want to be a cop? (Read 39376 times)

Kuleana

Re: Sure you want to be a cop?
« Reply #120 on: September 01, 2020, 12:00:12 PM »
Arguing the justifications of a police officer's actions are one issue but likening yourself to President Trump is another level of pandering or a thinly veiled delusion.
Don't we all try to be like and emulate Trump?

I sure do; and its nice to see my mode of analysis is at least, on the same wavelength, like Trump.  Maybe, more on this forum should do the same or be kind to those of us that think like him.

ren

Re: Sure you want to be a cop?
« Reply #121 on: September 01, 2020, 12:04:22 PM »
Don't we all try to be like and emulate Trump?

no.
On one hand you speak negatively of perceived group think here on this forum and then on the other hand you solicit everyone to think like one man.
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Kuleana

Re: Sure you want to be a cop?
« Reply #122 on: September 01, 2020, 12:26:35 PM »
...on the other hand you solicit everyone to think like one man.
I am not saying for people to act like Trump.

I am referring to Trump's open-mindedness, as evidenced, in his views, of police-related shootings, that I think more, on this forum, should equally embrace.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Sure you want to be a cop?
« Reply #123 on: September 01, 2020, 01:29:56 PM »
Check your dosages

He's still out of Lithium...
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Sure you want to be a cop?
« Reply #124 on: September 01, 2020, 01:34:39 PM »
I am not saying for people to act like Trump.

I am referring to Trump's open-mindedness, as evidenced, in his views, of police-related shootings, that I think more, on this forum, should equally embrace.

Trump asked a question without judging the Cops.

You condemned the Cops' actions immediately -- going well beyond asking "why?"

Trump's trying to understand the FACTS.  You're criticizing and accusing the Cops of "executing" a suspect.

I'm sure you'll never agree with that characterization, but it is what it is.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Kuleana

Re: Sure you want to be a cop?
« Reply #125 on: September 01, 2020, 02:30:03 PM »
Trump asked a question without judging the Cops.
"They can do 10,000 great acts, which is what they do, and one bad apple — or a choker, Y'know a choker. They choke." - DJT

Sounds like a judgement of cops, who shoot civilians, as quoted by Trump, to me.




I'm sure you'll never agree with that characterization, but it is what it is.
I don't agree because I saw what Trump said.

Did you?

Kuleana

Re: Sure you want to be a cop?
« Reply #126 on: September 01, 2020, 03:15:56 PM »
He's still out of Lithium...
I am so glad you are back on your medications.

Everyone can see how you are like when you are on it, but I can only wonder, what happens, when you run out.   :shake:

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Sure you want to be a cop?
« Reply #127 on: September 01, 2020, 03:34:20 PM »
"They can do 10,000 great acts, which is what they do, and one bad apple — or a choker, Y'know a choker. They choke." - DJT

Sounds like a judgement of cops, who shoot civilians, as quoted by Trump, to me.



I don't agree because I saw what Trump said.

Did you?

#1 Wrong!  He was making a general statement.  Nothing in the Blake case involved a choke hold.   :rofl:

#2 You interpreted what he said to confirm your bias.  Nothing more.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Sure you want to be a cop?
« Reply #128 on: September 01, 2020, 03:35:19 PM »
I am so glad you are back on your medications.

Everyone can see how you are like when you are on it, but I can only wonder, what happens, when you run out.   :shake:

Lame troll comments from you are never-ending.

Why can't you stay on topic?
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

aieahound

Re: Sure you want to be a cop?
« Reply #129 on: September 01, 2020, 06:28:25 PM »
No one is gonna comment further on Trump’s comment?
It’s kinda interesting and seems worthy of further discussion.
Certainly on topic as it refers to the Kenosha officer shooting, and possibly even his stance on a number of police shootings.

Choke hold? He said officers sometimes choke. Like a golfer who muffs a three foot putt.

Or is everyone just going down Kuleana’s rabbit hole?
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hvybarrels

Re: Sure you want to be a cop?
« Reply #130 on: September 01, 2020, 06:49:35 PM »
No one is gonna comment further on Trump’s comment?
It’s kinda interesting and seems worthy of further discussion.
Certainly on topic as it refers to the Kenosha officer shooting, and possibly even his stance on a number of police shootings.

Choke hold? He said officers sometimes choke. Like a golfer who muffs a three foot putt.

Or is everyone just going down Kuleana’s rabbit hole?

Jiminy Christmas not you too!
“A Communist system can be recognized by the fact that it spares the criminals and criminalizes the political opponent.”   -Alexander Solzhenitsyn

ren

Re: Sure you want to be a cop?
« Reply #131 on: September 01, 2020, 06:59:12 PM »
No one is gonna comment further on Trump’s comment?
It’s kinda interesting and seems worthy of further discussion.
Certainly on topic as it refers to the Kenosha officer shooting, and possibly even his stance on a number of police shootings.

Choke hold? He said officers sometimes choke. Like a golfer who muffs a three foot putt.

Or is everyone just going down Kuleana’s rabbit hole?

rather talk about guns and shootin'...can't wait to go back to the range and shoot the X out of bullseye....and flex on 'em
Deeds Not Words

aieahound

Re: Sure you want to be a cop?
« Reply #132 on: September 01, 2020, 07:00:42 PM »
Jiminy Christmas not you too!

Heck no, not me too.
I’m not going down the rabbit hole to play with The Mad Hatter and the Queen of Hearts.
I’ll let you decide who’s who.

I am a little different from the usual cast of characters though.
So are a lot of the characters on here when you meet ‘em. Good guys all the ones I’ve met. Almost all.

But what do you think about Trump’s statement on the matter?

That cops sometimes choke like golfers standing over a three foot putt.
(Actually I gotta go back and watch it again so I know what the hell I’m talking about.)

rather talk about guns and shootin'...can't wait to go back to the range and shoot the X out of bullseye....and flex on 'em

Couldn’t agree more.
Postal match with pellet guns!
Two classes. Optics and open sights.
Now there’s a quarantine activity.

ren

Re: Sure you want to be a cop?
« Reply #133 on: September 01, 2020, 07:08:12 PM »
President Trump just says things. He's not typical. I don't know what he meant - maybe it was subtle. I do know from his speeches he back law enforcement but he is not a blind fool. He will get rid of people who are not competent. I did read his book, The Art of the Deal and in it he says that at his level he needs to deal with skilled people. He'll give people the chance but like on The Apprentice he will move you aside for more competent people. What he refers to I can only guess that principle applies to leadership positions.
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ren

Re: Sure you want to be a cop?
« Reply #134 on: September 01, 2020, 07:09:07 PM »
I'm going to get a SCATT. I have a feeling this lockdown will last at least a month.
Deeds Not Words

Kuleana

Re: Sure you want to be a cop?
« Reply #135 on: September 01, 2020, 07:19:03 PM »
No one is gonna comment further on Trump’s comment?  Certainly on topic as it refers to the Kenosha officer shooting, and possibly even his stance on a number of police shootings.
I don't think so Hound.

As you can see, a number of posters, in this thread, were more interested in shouting down, my points of contention, or making personal attacks.  However, when Trump himself, echoed similar questions and conclusions that I posted; funny how the overwhelming criticism, of my position, suddenly ceased, except for a couple of others, who still felt they had to throw some weird insults, just to save face.

I guess many, who were so sure that my views, on this matter, was clearly insane, biased, or purely emotional driven were shocked to know Trump's position, which I think made them stop, in their own tracks, and maybe start questioning the validity, of some of their own views.




Choke hold? He said officers sometimes choke. Like a golfer who muffs a three foot putt.
You should not be surprised, since the person you are referring, who always criticizes me, in not reading carefully, is a guilty hypocrite, himself.

hvybarrels

Re: Sure you want to be a cop?
« Reply #136 on: September 01, 2020, 07:39:51 PM »
But what do you think about Trump’s statement on the matter?

That cops sometimes choke like golfers standing over a three foot putt.
(Actually I gotta go back and watch it again so I know what the hell I’m talking about.)


I clearly stated several times that it is my belief the cops screwed up, and it was confirmed by EEF.  The difference is we believe the screw up happened before the shots were fired. With 3 cops and a struggle the perp should never have made it around to the other side of the car, much less managed to open the door.

The victim-obsessed media is fixated on the seven shots, but it might not have gotten to that point if the situation was handled correctly in the first place. Unfortunately it set up the ugly yet necessary conclusion.

So which part of the confrontation was Trump talking about? I do not know, but I guarantee you certain narcissists who regularly talk out of their ʻokole do not know either.

“A Communist system can be recognized by the fact that it spares the criminals and criminalizes the political opponent.”   -Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Kuleana

Re: Sure you want to be a cop?
« Reply #137 on: September 01, 2020, 07:43:12 PM »
So which part of the confrontation was Trump talking about? I do not know, but I guarantee you certain narcissists who regularly talk out of their ʻokole do not know either.
"Shooting the guy, shooting the guy in the back many times, I mean, couldn't you have done something different?  Couldn't you have wrestled him?" - DJT

I think this quote by Trump can help.   :shaka:

hvybarrels

Re: Sure you want to be a cop?
« Reply #138 on: September 01, 2020, 07:47:14 PM »
"Shooting the guy, shooting the guy in the back many times, I mean, couldn't you have done something different?  Couldn't you have wrestled him?" - DJT

I think this quote by Trump can help.   :shaka:

This just reinforced my point. He literally said the same thing I just said, but your ideological victim goggles will not let you see it.
“A Communist system can be recognized by the fact that it spares the criminals and criminalizes the political opponent.”   -Alexander Solzhenitsyn

aieahound

Re: Sure you want to be a cop?
« Reply #139 on: September 01, 2020, 07:59:04 PM »
 
.
But what do you think about Trump’s statement on the matter?

That cops sometimes choke like golfers standing over a three foot putt.
(Actually I gotta go back and watch it again so I know what the hell I’m talking about.)

Legitimate question that started some actual discussion.

"Shooting the guy, shooting the guy in the back many times, I mean, couldn't you have done something different?  Couldn't you have wrestled him?" - DJT

I think this quote by Trump can help.   :shaka:

Rabbit holed.   :grrr: