It's great to see all the people here committing to attending.  However keep in mind the costs involved ibefore you commit:  Lets say you split the cost 3 ways for rental car and hotel room in Hilo for a Dynamic Carbine 3 day course:

Cost of Course ~$600 (maybe more)
Airfare $200
Rental Car $70
Hotel $85
Food and stuff $100
Ammunition $875 (5.56) + $75 (9mm) = $950

So expect to pay about $2,000. 

It's great to see all the people here committing to attending.  However keep in mind the costs involved ibefore you commit:  Lets say you split the cost 3 ways for rental car and hotel room in Hilo for a Dynamic Carbine 3 day course:

Cost of Course ~$600 (maybe more)
Airfare $200
Rental Car $70
Hotel $85
Food and stuff $100
Ammunition $875 (5.56) + $75 (9mm) = $950

So expect to pay about $2,000.

That's also assuming you already have the proper gear for the course.  Things like good holsters, mag pouches (not the kind that is typically available off the shelf at LGSs), slings, etc are pricey and they add up quickly. 

Hey drck1000 I know what you mean about the cost to attend on the mainland 

$500 for airfare
$450 for rental car
$600 for hotel
$350 for food and misc. expense
$600 for ammo
$750 for the class
$100 for range fee

learning to hit an 18" target at 1030 yards with constant 15mph full value cross winds and 25mph gust on the first shot.............. priceless 

but if I could have done it for just the class fee and ammo sooooooooo much better.

Zippz - this is what I paid to attend in Washington - Hilo would be cheaper, but if someone could hook up a range in Oahu it would be even cheaper for the majority of 2a members.

Created a Poll to see the 2a members interest in which Magpul Dynamics course they would like to attend in Hawaii, you can make more than one choice.

http://www.easypolls.net/poll.html?p=5191472ce4b07663c9e8002a

Thanks, JonJon. Four people already voted!

For the advanced classes, Ie dynamic handgun 2, do you have to take the level 1 class first?  I shot handgun and carbine at other private schools and in the military.

Also if you can't afford the classes, the DVD sets they put out can help you alot too, for about $50 a set.  Videos go through the basic and advanced techniques and are interesting to watch.  I know security equipment has the videos.

http://store.magpul.com/category/169

For the advanced classes, Ie dynamic handgun 2, do you have to take the level 1 class first?  I shot handgun and carbine at other private schools and in the military.

Just checked on the Magpul Dynamics website there is no prerequisite for carbine 2, I could be mistaken but I think carbine 2 deals less with weapon familiarization and fundamentals and more with dynamic application, same for the handgun 2 course. Advance classes have less classroom time.

Thanks, JonJon. Four people already voted!

I just voted.

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Ammunition $875 (5.56) + $75 (9mm) = $950

Ammunition might make it or break it for a lot of people. About half the cost if you can even find it. Not to mention sending it off-island. Whoever is the "host/coordinator" (jonjon?) should ask Magpul about using .22 for the carbine classes. It might allow a few more people to attend. Earlier in the year Magpul Dynamics posted this:

"Magpul Dynamics Pricing/Equipment Changed for 2013
Magpul Dynamics Pricing and Ammunition Requirement Update

In an effort to make training more accessible in these times of increased prices and reduced availability, Magpul Dynamics has updated their pricing structure, round counts, and acceptable calibers for the 2013 training year.

Effective immediately, all three-day classes are reduced to $600 per student, and two-day classes are reduced to $450 per student. In addition, the curriculum has been revised for all pistol/carbine courses based on the changes occurring over the past year to allow for maximum training value at a slightly reduced round count. Also, we are temporarily allowing the use of pistol-caliber carbines and 22LR AR-15 pattern training rifles in the carbine classes. Please understand that there are many drawbacks to training with 22LR as opposed to normal rifle platforms, but significant training value will still exist. We expect a full return to allowing rifle-caliber rounds only in the future as the ammunition supply catches up with current demand and ammunition prices return to a reasonable level. However, we understand the financial burden placed on students with the current state of the economy and the rapid rise in retail pricing in the ammunition industry. We firmly believe in the value of quality firearms training and are committed to providing quality products and services at a fair price.

Duane, Steve, Jon, and Caylen"

I know this assumes you have a .22 upper or AR patterned .22, and .22 ammo itself is hard to find right now, but people willing to spend over a grand on training are probably the type that had enough foresight to stock up on ammo long before this current craze. I train a lot with .22 on an AR and although there is a difference, I'd much rather train with .22 than with nothing at all. In fact, given that bulk .22 tends to have a lot more malfunctions when compared to centerfire rounds, you end up with a lot of weapons malipulation/malfunction practice. Which is a big part of these classes anway. Good luck to you guys, it's awesome to see the possibility of this type of training in Hawaii.

Ammunition might make it or break it for a lot of people. About half the cost if you can even find it. Not to mention sending it off-island. Whoever is the "host/coordinator" (jonjon?) should ask Magpul about using .22 for the carbine classes. It might allow a few more people to attend. Earlier in the year Magpul Dynamics posted this:

What might be a possibility once there is an actual date and class set, is to do a bulk ammo purchase in advance through one of the LGS on the island of the class. Also Magpul has been offering ammo for sale to students attending their classes. I will talk with the Magpul cadre to see if we would be able to buy through them and have the ammo shipped to the class site.

From Magpul Dynamics:
Apologies for the delay, but we are now ready to get this program rolling. We've had some hiccups on the pistol ammo side, but by working with various manufacturers and vendors, we are ready to go. Prices are not as low as we'd like them to be, but if our costs go down, we will announce price adjustments to pass the savings on.

For Carbine classes, we will have Magtech 5.56 which may be M193 or 62gr (no penetrator) ball, depending on availability. Price will be $380 per 1000 rounds. You may purchase up to 1200 rounds for the class, but not more, and each additional 100 rounds will be $38.00. You can probably get by with 1000.

Handgun ammo for Carbine students will be available in 100 round increments up to 200 rounds max. Right now, all we have is 9mm, at $27.50 per 100 rounds. 100 rounds will probably get you by for the class. 200 preferred for Carbine 2.

For Handgun students, we will have Magtech or Fiocchi 115gr ball ammo. Price for either will be $275 per 1000 rounds. You may purhase in 100 round increments up to 1200 rounds per class, with each additional 100 rounds costing $27.50. 1000 will probably get you through, but the extra 200 rounds won't hurt, either.

Once again, if you order ammo, and then cancel your class slot, you will be refunded the amount of the ammo, and will not be afforded the option to take the ammo. If the ammo has been shipped to the class location (approx 10 days before class date), the cost of shipping the ammo (both ways) will be withheld from any refund.

Now...get on the web or on the phone and reserve those class seats, with ammo package!

You are short changing yourself doing a carbine class with a .22lr.... just imo.  If I'm paying to take a class, I'm going to take "take a class" and I wouldn't take it if I couldn't afford legit ammo for the class.

Depending on the class, and what we are doing, many people may not need (or really want) the added problems / malfunctions that .22lr will cause.  Most of them, that I have seen, don't perform well to begin with... add in dirt, grime, and high round counts and I think you are in for some fun and headaches lol.

If I'm going to spend the time and money on a class, I would do it right and get the proper ammo

I voted.

In the handgun and carbine classes that I'm taking this weekend, they adjusted the round counts due to the recent issues with ammo.  They have indicated that they have adjusted their course content to allow for less firing sequences, but there will opportunity for those with more than the minimum ammo to shoot.  They also indicated that 22 lr uppers are an option so I guess I'll see if anyone brings one to the class.  Personally, I agree with Funtimes that I'd rather hold off than take a class with 22 lr since you wouldn't be getting the full experience with recoil management. 

Interesting note on the ammo prices if purchased through Magpul.  That definitely increases my interest as ammo was one of the biggest headaches in making arrangements for my class this weekend. 

^^^I wonder if Magpul really understands the costs of shipping the ammo to Hawaii?  This is more like shipping ammo to Alaska.

Anywho...........fawk the costs, I'm in.

Voted, depending on when it is, etc. I might be able to have a few people stay at my place if its on the big island.

If I'm going to spend the time and money on a class, I would do it right and get the proper ammo

Reloaded ammunition caused me a *huge* problem during Chris Costa's Carbine 2 course. Was really frustrated, pissed off, and it affected my training .   This was from a mainland reloading company too.  I went through almost 2500 rounds during that three day course, it was the last box that was jacked up.

You are short changing yourself doing a carbine class with a .22lr.... just imo.  If I'm paying to take a class, I'm going to take "take a class" and I wouldn't take it if I couldn't afford legit ammo for the class.

Depending on the class, and what we are doing, many people may not need (or really want) the added problems / malfunctions that .22lr will cause.  Most of them, that I have seen, don't perform well to begin with... add in dirt, grime, and high round counts and I think you are in for some fun and headaches lol.

I agree to an extent. Ideally, yes you should use centerfire ammo. But I will always advocate that some training is better than no training. And if Magpul themselves are allowing .22, then I'm sure they've thought long and hard about it. Plus you can only use .22 on some portions of the class, not the whole thing. 

I see your point with the malfunctions though. To a degree it's great because it forces you to continually practice dealing with weapon malfunctions, but in a class environment I can see it being a pain. No one wants to be the guy that everyone has to wait for.   

Created a Poll to see the 2a members interest in which Magpul Dynamics course they would like to attend in Hawaii, you can make more than one choice.

http://www.easypolls.net/poll.html?p=5191472ce4b07663c9e8002a

So far 24 members voted on the poll, good job but definitely need to have more members to vote so that when I talk to Magpul it would be nice to show the numbers and interest in having Magpul Dynamics come to Hawaii.