I watched and enjoyed the sh*t out of the entire thing. The Dimm's made themselves look so bad.   

I watched and enjoyed the sh*t out of the entire thing. The Dimm's made themselves look so bad.   

I agree. There were some minor details where I did not necessarily agree with what Trump said. But for the most part the speech was quite good. I really appreciated his attempts to cross over party lines and get things accomplished. If the Dimms don't grab and run with that they will look worse than they already do. Even my wife who is a lifelong Democrat said the Dems were acting like children and idiots. My wife never minces words. 

Good speech. 
I vote for approve of speech.
Why doesn't he always present like this?

The twit should have someone write his tweets.
He does have the ability to drag everyone into the gutter.
This speech withstanding, and referring to his daily tweets and how politicians now speak to/of each other.

I hope my kids rise above this current culture and remember courtesy, manners and decency.
No, I did not raise snowflakes. Just good kids I hope.
Still call it like you see it.
Just don't be mean about it.
Until it's time to be mean.

(Yeah, SnowFlapp, I know I shouldn't call him a twit but that's the term for Twitter users)

                                    

CNN performed their own poll. Then they discredited the results:

https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/nicholas-fondacaro/2018/01/31/cnn-discredits-own-poll-showing-overwhelming-positive?mkt_tok=eyJpIjoiTVdWaFlUYzFNMkU0WW1ZeiIsInQiOiJiNWpSM2NBQUIyOE9sR0IzZ09CSE8wNFJpQXlcL0llWW1hdVdEUGpmdHBtSkh2WGNnSVhTRU9YdGpKNkU3M2M4VzB6ejdodnRnSzRrRVQrXC9VMGduXC83QTBENDNKKytxZHhvTWZyWUYyTVdlZmFpeVdhWFZpcGlyYjU0Vm02dkpINCJ9

 

I enjoyed the speech, especially when he mentioned the black unemployment at an all time low and only 3 black caucasus members were clapping.  And when he got the dems to clap when he mentioned the 2 girls killed by the MS-13 illegal aliens (they didn't clap at first, but then did after).

Good article on his speech

http://amp.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/jan/31/blinded-their-hatred-trump-dems-reveal-theyre-not-/

"Again and again, those who oppose him are sidetracked and distracted by their own rage and frustration against a man they truly believe is not worthy of the position he has attained. He gets his opponents to reveal that rage and their hatred for Trump the man and in so doing, they reveal the worst in themselves.
...
These events are always partisan affairs with the president’s “side” of the house chamber jumping to its feet and wildly cheering his proposals and achievements and the opposition party sitting in dour skepticism, refusing to show any support for the man they hope to defeat. It’s pretty standard stuff.

Except with Trump, everything is accentuated and amplified to level 11 like the speakers at a Spinal Tap concert.

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The Democrats were so blinded by their hatred for Trump the person, they found themselves not just booing and mocking his policy proposals, but also the objectively positive conditions Americans are enjoying after the president’s first year in office. "

CNN performed their own poll. Then they discredited the results:

https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/nicholas-fondacaro/2018/01/31/cnn-discredits-own-poll-showing-overwhelming-positive?mkt_tok=eyJpIjoiTVdWaFlUYzFNMkU0WW1ZeiIsInQiOiJiNWpSM2NBQUIyOE9sR0IzZ09CSE8wNFJpQXlcL0llWW1hdVdEUGpmdHBtSkh2WGNnSVhTRU9YdGpKNkU3M2M4VzB6ejdodnRnSzRrRVQrXC9VMGduXC83QTBENDNKKytxZHhvTWZyWUYyTVdlZmFpeVdhWFZpcGlyYjU0Vm02dkpINCJ9

 

I was thinking something similar about the number of people liking Trump was a higher number watching than those who hate him. 

I know I purposely avoided any Obama appearance on TV, because I couldn't stand to hear about how I'm the root cause of all the country's problems, and that until I change my racist, misogynistic, homophobic, Islamophobic and other deplorable ways, the country will never get any better. 

I hated being lectured by an unknown Senator from IL on how "that's not who we are."

I could not tolerate his constant blame of the Republicans for his failed policies and agendas. 

I cringed when he blamed the number of guns in the country for crimes, even though Chicago is in his own state.  The only improvement was when the Supreme Court forced the city to start selling guns again, so the residents could defend themselves. 

I was nauseated when he lied to us over and over about the great things Obamacare would do, like the $2600/year savings, you can keep your plan, and illegal aliens would not be able to obtain healthcare services under the bill ("YOU LIE!!"). 

Okay, maybe I picked up a few things as the TV was tuned in even though I distracted myself on the PC. 

I think people who hate Trump also tuned in to listen to his intended agendas and to make a list of his gaffes for later memes.

To say people who hate him avoided the speech is not accurate.  I think many did tune in.  If you watched the LIVE Twitter responses, there were more people trying to bash the speech than making positive comments.  They had to be watching.

I was thinking something similar about the number of people liking Trump was a higher number watching than those who hate him. 

I know I purposely avoided any Obama appearance on TV, because I couldn't stand to hear about how I'm the root cause of all the country's problems, and that until I change my racist, misogynistic, homophobic, Islamophobic and other deplorable ways, the country will never get any better. 

I hated being lectured by an unknown Senator from IL on how "that's not who we are."

I could not tolerate his constant blame of the Republicans for his failed policies and agendas. 

I cringed when he blamed the number of guns in the country for crimes, even though Chicago is in his own state.  The only improvement was when the Supreme Court forced the city to start selling guns again, so the residents could defend themselves. 

I was nauseated when he lied to us over and over about the great things Obamacare would do, like the $2600/year savings, you can keep your plan, and illegal aliens would not be able to obtain healthcare services under the bill ("YOU LIE!!"). 

Okay, maybe I picked up a few things as the TV was tuned in even though I distracted myself on the PC. 

I think people who hate Trump also tuned in to listen to his intended agendas and to make a list of his gaffes for later memes.

To say people who hate him avoided the speech is not accurate.  I think many did tune in.  If you watched the LIVE Twitter responses, there were more people trying to bash the speech than making positive comments.  They had to be watching.

Well, yeah, but other than that you liked Obama? 

Check this out (I wouldn't expect anyone to sit through the entire 14 minute video of Obama lying making broken promises in his SOTU speeches, but you can read the list below the video):

140 UNFULFILLED OBAMA PROMISES FROM PAST SOTU ADDRESSES

https://news.grabien.com/story-montage-140-unfulfilled-obama-promises-past-sotu-addresses

Originally published January, 2016

Tonight President Obama will deliver his final State of the Union address, which the White House says will refrain from the usual "laundry list" of new proposals. That's probably a smart strategy, based on how successfully he's delivered on past State of the Union promises.

Looking back, the numbers aren't pretty. From 2009 through 2015, Grabien counts 140 promises that remain unfulfilled.

We should note that many of these promises are duplicated from one year to another. For example, almost every year he has pledged to pass comprehensive immigration reform, overhaul corporate taxes, reduce regulations, and close Guantanamo Bay.

I think there are many more Trump supporters than the fake news is letting out.  Also many are not "vocal" like how antifa is or anti-trump people are because they would get involved in a no win fight.  Trump supporter gets beat up, little to no media attention/cops do nothing (has happened, even with PD 3 feet away).  Trump supporter kicks ass/retaliates (based stickman), media headlines "Violent Trump Supporter Attacks....  Anti-Trump does damage, nothing happens or is praised.

I myself keep my mouth shut often because I don't want to deal with the repercussions or get into an argument with someone despite providing facts, who still doesn't understand (similar to CCW statistics and gun stats to an anti-2a person). 

If Obama had announced Black unemployment was the lowest it's ever been, would the Congressional Black Caucus have sat quietly with their hands folded?

I think not.   

I know I purposely avoided any Obama appearance on TV,

Yep, never heard the bastard say a thing.  Helps that my TV watching was in a severe decline then. 

Pulled off the same thing with 8 years of the Clintoon.  Complete shutout.    Did catch some of the impeachment proceedings, just too much fun there. 

Good practice for the Kenyan later on to be fast with the mute button..

Trump did a decent job but I think state of the union addresses are stupid to begin with. It is a bunch of empty talk that is made way longer than it needs to be because everyone has to clap every 20 seconds.

Trump did a decent job but I think state of the union addresses are stupid to begin with. It is a bunch of empty talk that is made way longer than it needs to be because everyone has to clap every 20 seconds.

Since this is a thread about Trump, do you have nothing to say about his speech?  He mentioned a multitude of achievements, policies, and plans.

Did you actually listen to it?

No opinions on the "Resistance" members of Congress?

As Alan Dershowitz (Obama campaigner and Clinton voter), very liberal Harvard law professor is pointing out time after time, the president has the constitutional authority to terminate the employment of many people in the government, including the FBI director, so the president doing that, in and of itself, is a nothing burger, legally speaking. It only has "the appearance" of impropriety if you happen to believe a certain "narrative", i.e. in this case the mainstream media narrative that Trump is guilty of some unnamed crime (originally "collusion" which is not illegal, just like "extremely careless" is not illegal), which then morphed into "obstruction of justice", for which there is no evidence at all.

Tried? How do you know Trump "tried to fire Mueller"? What did he do that was "trying to fire Mueller", and how did it turn out that his effort to fire him failed and Mueller is still in place? "You're fired!" "No I'm not." Okay."  As above, the president has the legal constitutional authority to fire a "special/independent counsel", so it would only be "damning" if you believe he did it in an effort to cover up something (a la Nixon)... and there is no evidence of that at all (the "information" in the "dossier" paid for by Clinton is fake).

Trump was going to fire Mueller but some of his aids threatened to resign if he did.

I am not questioning the president's legal power to fire Mueller so lets get that out of the way.

Saying collusion is not illegal is kind of dumb because it is the issue of what is/isn't being colluded about. Plotting isn't illegal, attempting isn't illegal, conspiracy isn't illegal.

Bottom line on Trump and the whole Russia investigation and I will loosely quote Ben Shapiro from the interview linked below. Either Trump is hiding something or he is innocent and just incredibly stupid.

Since this is a thread about Trump, do you have nothing to say about his speech?  He mentioned a multitude of achievements, policies, and plans.

Did you actually listen to it?

No opinions on the "Resistance" members of Congress?

I heard about 20 minutes of it. And I did have something to say about it, I said he did a decent job. To add, it was a bit long, it could have been trimmed up a bit. Just in general I don't like state of the union addresses. Politicians talking a whole lot without saying much. They should go back to where the state of the union was just a letter to congress but someone turned it into a photo op.

Are you saying there is some sort of underlying narrative here that no one else here sees? If so, let us in on it.

The MSM narrative is trying to make it sound like Trump "tried" to fire Mueller. If he wanted to fire him then he would have been fired already. The truth is probably more like Trump WANTED to fire Mueller but either decided not to on his own, or was talked out of it by someone looking out for his political well being. Because if he had fired him, it would have been political suicide for Trump IMHO. Actions speak louder than words.

Firing Comey, the proven classified information leaker, was one of the best things Trump ever did. He should have been fired just for leaking classified information. Most every president fires the FBI director upon taking office. So what is the big deal? Even Comey admitted he expected to be fired when Trump took office and was surprised when he wasn't fired right away. Again, actions speak louder than words here.

What is really more telling now is the removal of McCabe before he wanted to leave. And the timing sure seems suspicious considering it occurred right after the memo was voted on to be released. Hmmm

Come was fired in the middle of a speech in another part of the country and done over phone. Trump had every right to fire Comey but they was he did it was stupid on many levels. It was handled poorly, and even if Trump is completely innocent the way he went about it made him look guilty of something. Comey made a mistake as FBI director, sure we can agree on that but he has more credibility than Trump.

And while we are standing around praising Trump, does it not bother anyone that Trump just ignored the law that congress passed regarding sanctions against Russia? The bill passed congress by something like 98% but Trump is just going to ignore the law.
Again, either Trump is just a complete idiot and giving people reason to think he is guilty, or he is really hiding something.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/01/29/trump-administration-wont-levy-new-russia-sanctions-for-now.html

And while we are standing around praising Trump, does it not bother anyone that Trump just ignored the law that congress passed regarding sanctions against Russia? The bill passed congress by something like 98% but Trump is just going to ignore the law.
Again, either Trump is just a complete idiot and giving people reason to think he is guilty, or he is really hiding something.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/01/29/trump-administration-wont-levy-new-russia-sanctions-for-now.html

Besides angering Moscow, the EU has said the sanctions can hurt them by affecting its energy security, since the sanctions severely impact Russia's energy production sector.

The sanctions can also interfere in US allies, Turkey and Saudi Arabia.  NATO partner Turkey recently agreed to a deal to purchase Russian air defense systems, while Saudi Arabia also struck a series of arms deals with Moscow.

If we initiate sanctions without considering the impacts our actions have on allies, it would be irresponsible. 

Besides angering Moscow, the EU has said the sanctions can hurt them by affecting its energy security, since the sanctions severely impact Russia's energy production sector.

The sanctions can also interfere in US allies, Turkey and Saudi Arabia.  NATO partner Turkey recently agreed to a deal to purchase Russian air defense systems, while Saudi Arabia also struck a series of arms deals with Moscow.

If we initiate sanctions without considering the impacts our actions have on allies, it would be irresponsible.

Those are valid concerns I have to admit but can you see how it fits in the whole Trump Russia conspiracy?