Definition of morals, not someone's explanation/commentary. . .

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Hold on. . . give it some time.  Kinda like Novocain

i fail to see "science" here...

Essential Meaning of moral
1: concerning or relating to what is right and wrong in human behavior
The church takes a strong stand on a number of moral [=ethical] issues.
The author avoids making moral judgments.
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2: based on what you think is right and good
He felt that he had a moral obligation/responsibility/duty to help the poor.
He's a man with strong moral convictions. [=a man who believes strongly that some things are right and others are wrong]
We're confident she has the moral fiber/fortitude to make the right decision.
3: considered right and good by most people : agreeing with a standard of right behavior
moral conduct
Their behavior was not moral.
a moral young man [=a young man who tries to behave in a moral way]

i fail to see "science" here...

Ok, now take that definition and apply to your earlier statements on morals. . .

I'll give you some more to work with. . .

just popped up in my youtube suggestions
"they" are watching us
jordan peterson on science religion and values
he even mentions "consensus"
and says "but that's not how we do science"
but he's just some dude on youtube...

i fail to see "science" here...

Stop being a novocain block. . .

Stop being a novocain block. . .

no notrealdoctor uses novocaine any more
lidocaine, mepivicaine, articane, or marcaine...

no notrealdoctor uses novocaine any more
lidocaine, mepivicaine, articane, or marcaine...

you are ar-cane. . .

Ok, now take that definition and apply to your earlier statements on morals. . .

I'll give you some more to work with. . .

Statement of science or the statement that started this chain?

I am aware that its not tied to science,  I've been arguing that it should be. 

I am aware that its not tied to science,  I've been arguing that it should be. 

Just to clarify, Religion and Morals should be derived from science ?
If so…
Hope you have your next 19 answers ready and have already argued with yourself.
(Hint: you already”proved” science is immoral with your rape scenario. Unless morals are tied to science. Then extrapolate to murder, etc, etc, etc….)

Just to clarify, Religion and Morals should derived from science ?

Not religion, just morals.  Religion is basically the antithesis of science.  Blind faith that is unprovable.

Morals you can run studies that can prove what is good or bad for a civilization.  Don't need religion to play that role anymore.


We should play chess one day,  I was fairly good way back in highschool.  Was the top of my small school.

Check my edit above.
And away we go.

Not religion, just morals.  Religion is basically the antithesis of science.  Blind faith that is unprovable.

Morals you can run studies that can prove what is good or bad for a civilization.  Don't need religion to play that role anymore.


We should play chess one day,  I was fairly good way back in highschool.  Was the top of my small school.

ok, now that you have finally said it (semi) clearly, morals should be (in your opinion) or are based on science?

I have a few minutes before meetings. . . seeing how my rope a dope skills are.

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The title of this thread should be changed from religion to:

 "omni's arguments about how he feels what religion is, and not  talking about specific deities or worships".

I mean if someone saw this title and wanted to see the debate as to which god is better and stuff like that, they are in for an awakening. 

Omni-ism is all over this thread.

X person brings up A point. Omni chimes in as usual with the opposite feelings.
X,Y, Z persons then brings up B  point to counter Omni's feelings, omni moves goal post or brings up another moot info to back up his feeling
X,Y, Z, persons bring up point C to counter again, and goal post moved or like actions
Then 17 pages later and repeat as necessary.

ok, now that you have finally said it (semi) clearly, morals should be (in your opinion) or are based on science?

In my opinion they should be.  They are not directly linked to science.  People obviously used some science and disguised it as religion etc.

The title of this thread should be changed from religion to:

 "omni's arguments about how he feels what religion is, and not  talking about specific deities or worships".

I mean if someone saw this title and wanted to see the debate as to which god is better and stuff like that, they are in for an awakening. 

Omni-ism is all over this thread.

X person brings up A point. Omni chimes in as usual with the opposite feelings.
X,Y, Z persons then brings up B  point to counter Omni's feelings, omni moves goal post or brings up another moot info to back up his feeling
X,Y, Z, persons bring up point C to counter again, and goal post moved or like actions
Then 17 pages later and repeat as necessary.

This is a catch all thread.  Anything related to religion.  Morals relate. 

Feel free to discuss which magic man in the sky is better or not.   I'll side with neither exist.  My opinion remains the same all religions on earth are false.   There may be a higher power who knows. 

This is a catch all thread.  Anything related to religion.  Morals relate. 

Feel free to discuss which magic man in the sky is better or not.   I'll side with neither exist.  My opinion remains the same all religions on earth are false.   There may be a higher power who knows.

A majority of people on the PLANET believe in God. 

All major religions are monotheistic. 

Even more believe religion has a beneficial purpose in society.

Sounds like a consensus.  According to you, that's no different than "science".

Found this interesting.

“ Marx’s actual words regarding religion deserve reflection. My best translation of those words is as follows: “Religion is the opium of the people. It is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of our soulless conditions.”

Overall, Marx is speaking not as a man of faith but rather as a secular humanist. However, he does appear to suggest a largely positive role religion could play in an exploitative and alienating society. Human beings have the distressing habit of killing one another because of religious differences, and some of our most religious citizens wear the biggest of blinders. But Marx is right that our society can use a “heart” and a “soul” wherever we might find it.”

https://law.marquette.edu/facultyblog/2015/01/karl-marx-on-religion/comment-page-1/